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Re: Nux vomica w/o irritability?
> > I am fascinated by Irene's mail about the non-rubriced uses of > Plumbum, > and other remedies. > > I am sure her experience is being repeated round the world by > homeopaths > who find remedies have cured/improved symptoms not listed in the > repertories. It seems a shame that I only pick up Irene's knowledge > via > being a member of this forum. Surely there's a better way? > > Is there an equivalent of the GP yellow card system [where GPs > report on > previously unrecorded adverse symptoms of a known medication] where we > can send our individual findings on the -curative- properties of > remedies not listed under a rubric? Of course this would necessitate > establishing a clear protocol about objective/near objective proof > that > the remedy in question was responsible, but I'm sure it could be done. > > If not then perhaps it is time to set up a dedicated national or > international register where homeopaths can report cured symptoms from > unlisted remedies and where other homepaths can refer? If it was > online > all the better so that it could be referred to without messing up the > existing repertories.. > > Just a thought... I think Roger keeps track of provings and cured cases that are forwarded to him?????????? rogervanzandvoort (AT) mac (DOT) com Leilanae > > > > -- > Rosina > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Rosina's Profile: http://www.otherhealth.com/members/rosina.html > View this thread: Nux vomica w/o irritability? > > 
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17th October 2009, 03:05 PM
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Re: Nux vomica w/o irritability?
Hi Rosina,
It's a really interesting question... I think the idea of a national registry for cured symptoms would be tricky, since I don't know how you'd include any sort of reliability check, e.g. whether the submitting homeopath is reliable, and possibly significant details about the case. Even with our repertories mistakes do creep in, and that could be so much compounded by having many people making unverified entries...?? Aside from that, the question of cured symptoms is one I find lots of room for puzzlement in! Someone (who? where??) expressed the opinion that any remedy could *potentially* cure any symptom, *if* it is sufficiently well suited to the patient. It sounds as tho Irene's experience with plumbum and granulomas goes beyond that, tho--sounds like she has found plumbum to *frequently* have relevance to cases with granulomas, which does sound like something that ought to be in the reps... I would think that the symptom should/would/might(?) also have relationship to the rest of the remedy's symptom picture, and I'm wondering (doing a quick scan of rubrics, but only quick) how granulomas might fit into plumbum's. Perhaps with plumbum's dryness, constriction, "drawing inward", emaciation, abscesses, hypertrophy (tho I only see it in that single general rubric), induration (tho with *very* little detail), tumors, slow healing--it does seem like granulomas sort of fit in with the rest of the crowd?? Irene--I don't see a rubric called granuloma--what one(s) do you use, and does my thinking above seem reasonable to you? One thing we were taught emphatically, is that "The repertory is completely incomplete," and the possibility is always there that the needed remedy is missing from rubrics that do suit the case well. So yeah, as Irene said, one symptom or one rubric should never be allowed to make or break a case... Shannon On Oct 15, 2009, at 7:29 AM, homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com wrote: > > I am fascinated by Irene's mail about the non-rubriced uses of > Plumbum, > and other remedies. > > I am sure her experience is being repeated round the world by > homeopaths > who find remedies have cured/improved symptoms not listed in the > repertories. It seems a shame that I only pick up Irene's knowledge > via > being a member of this forum. Surely there's a better way? > > Is there an equivalent of the GP yellow card system [where GPs > report on > previously unrecorded adverse symptoms of a known medication] where we > can send our individual findings on the -curative- properties of > remedies not listed under a rubric? Of course this would necessitate > establishing a clear protocol about objective/near objective proof > that > the remedy in question was responsible, but I'm sure it could be done. > > If not then perhaps it is time to set up a dedicated national or > international register where homeopaths can report cured symptoms from > unlisted remedies and where other homepaths can refer? If it was > online > all the better so that it could be referred to without messing up the > existing repertories.. > > Just a thought... > > > -- > Rosina > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Rosina's Profile: http://www.otherhealth.com/members/rosina.html > View this thread: Nux vomica w/o irritability? > >
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19th October 2009, 07:45 AM
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Re: FW: Nux vomica w/o irritability?
On Oct 15, 2009, at 10:05 AM, V.T. Yekkirala wrote:
> Hi, > > Well said, Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. > > That is my understanding too. In such circumstances when the pt > is too weak to express irritability; it is then that "leave-me-alone" > attitude is seen and this is when we observe the Sx- "quiet , wants > to be , desires tranquility,rest and repose." Yes I also concur, it was the point I was trying to make:-) Dr Roz said it better (as usual!) > But if this state is not preceeded > by the irritablity characteristic of Nux-v, then some other remedy > is needed > and not Nux. With that I do not agree. The remedy needs to fit the CURRENT case - not the prior innate constitutional type, which can be different. If Nux fits the case, some irritability may well be seen during the case when the case starts too ill to have it; still later the innate constitutional type may emerge and be OTHER than Nux-v. In this situation there will not necessarily be irritability before the major diseased state. The Nux-v disease state can be arrived at from many directions. What you suggest can be expected to apply in a Nux-v ICT (innate constitutional type) - not other ICTs. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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19th October 2009, 07:55 AM
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Re: Nux vomica w/o irritability?
On Oct 15, 2009, at 5:29 AM, homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com wrote:
> > I am fascinated by Irene's mail about the non-rubriced uses of > Plumbum, > and other remedies. > > I am sure her experience is being repeated round the world by > homeopaths > who find remedies have cured/improved symptoms not listed in the > repertories. It seems a shame that I only pick up Irene's > knowledge via > being a member of this forum. Surely there's a better way? We do need a better way. For example my use of Plb (and soem others) is in an illness universally considered incurable, and so it is important to tell others working with the illness. There must be lots of such remedies used by homeopaths all over. A central reporting would be great. Does Radar or Reference Works include such an option in their software updates? (Their software does allow for an author of remedies/rubrics added.) > If not then perhaps it is time to set up a dedicated national or > international register where homeopaths can report cured symptoms from > unlisted remedies and where other homepaths can refer? If it was > online > all the better I like that - it's quick and universal reference that way. Namaste, Irene PS I am working on an article discussing remedies effective in FIP -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Note: This is a work under construction with a lot yet to be typed up and lots more extracted to separate papers, so please do not respond to this until it’s finished, which will be known because I’ll then remove these two rider notes.
I add November 7th 2009: I'm not in any real hurry about this because the below-posting morons from somewhere else, probably the Moon, have posted still more off-topic chatter, clatter/noise and prattle that surely no one will bother to read, as though anyone read the nonsense earlier posted by these vain morons. ------------------------------ Quote:
Prior to the release of Black’s book, it was little known outside of arcane circles -- with purported access to the unimpeachable Akashic Records of this human race, which are the collective memories and experiences of everyone who’s ever lived for the simple reason that they’re recorded in the Astral and Mental Bodies of people and thus become part of their Egoic memories -- that Watson was one of the God-damned Western industrialists and bankers directly responsible for World War II. This is how THE ULTIMATE FRONTIER put it: Quote:
Watson thereby kept the Nazi war machine going, the strongest evidence for this being that it fell into chaos three months after those necessary spare parts and special cards finally stopped coming; i.e., the Nazi war machine literally shut down and ground to a halt three months later. Of tremendous historical importance, it also did so three months after we finally bombed the three synthetic-fuel facilities of I.G. Farben (super-evil!), and the same three-month phenomenon also occurred after we finally shut down the laundering of stollen gold and treasures by three God-damned Swiss banks who also acted as middlemen to illegally purchase natural resources for the Nazis throughout the war. Joseph Borkin, a Neuremberg prosecutor, revealed the Nazi connection with I.G. Farben and Standard Oil (John D. Rockefeller, the richest man in the world at the time) in 1976. Jean Ziegler, a Swiss Counselor (equivalent to U.S. Senators), revealed the Nazi connection with the three Swiss banks in 1998. It only took three months for the war in Europe to end after we finally did those three things, which should have been done from the very beginning of the war. Isn't that interesting and terribly sad? Easily scary, Joseph Borkin said that the Nazi synthetic fuel facilities had not been bombed "due to a gentlemen's agreement that heavy industry would not be destroyed during the war." That's pretty scary, isn't it? If that's true, and we have hundreds of thousands of similar incidents by God-damned corporations to prove it is their standard operating procedure, how many people needlessly died during World War II? That's pretty sad, isn't it? Standard Oil is now Exxon; the three Swiss banks still possess all of the looted gold from all European national banks and every European citizen; IBM amazingly still exists; and all of the 5000 other U.S. corporations who blocked our full mobilization during the first year of the war also still exist. Given that it's all treason and complicity in mass murder, how does that work? Americans can thank their fascist governments (i.e., it's pluralized because we change federal governments every four years with each national election, U.S. Senators and Congressmen varying between 2- and 6-year terms) for that total compromise of our CONSTITUTION, especially the God-damned Republical Party. The truth is always shocking, isn't it? The fact that not one in a million people know these things, I find that reprehensible, and it's just one of many reasons I so easily condemn virtually everyone alive to the destruction of their pitiful Souls for the crimes they endlessly create by ignorance, servility, complacency, selfishness, brainwashing and brain damage (from premature cutting of their umbilical cords by allopaths). It's also simply an arcane fact that most people presently incarnant are alive specifically so that they can make the dumb decisions that permanently remove them from the possibility for further lives and thus for the Kingdom of God on Earth to finally form when, in effect, "evil is bound," which is essentially what the Master Jesus (Christ having returned him his body and brain on the Cross) told St. John of the Cross in REVELATION 20:2. This stuff should not be news to anyone, so it endless saddens me that it apparently always is. Pitiful, huh? Except as children, these are all horribly dreadful people, and I say without the slightest compunction that they’re all criminals! In fact, they’re scoundrels to the Nth Degree. It’s hard to imagine a person without any morals whatsoever, but that’s Nux vomica. They often appear otherwise but not when you know these mongrels without their facades, i.e., when you can perceive their horns. Our repertories and materia medicas put it that they’re reprobates and are amoral, but that means they’re criminals. These are white-collar criminals, though, and they usually escape jail because these are, in turn, wholly unprincipled societies today with whole populations that don’t know anything about right or wrong, truth or falsehood, good or bad and such things even though most Americans are religious and the first and last pages of the BIBLE and everything inbetween tell what happens to such people. If you disagree, you’ll have to defend it, and you won’t like my reactions since holding such indefensible views makes you directly complicit in all of the crime, corruption, tyranny and social injustices of our times. You won’t like that one bit, and I don’t want to waste my time, so please be quiet or sit over in the corner with your dunce cap on if you’re so inclined to defend or praise the United States or any other country today. Nux-vomica patients engage in endless cunning, deceit and subterfuge. In fact, it’s almost true to say that if they’re saying something, they’re somehow lying. That’s quite unimaginable, isn’t it? Conscience is one of the 10 Qualities of Mind installed into each of us at Creation, but it seems to be wholly lacking in these wretched people. How is that possible? It makes no difference, and it’s enough to say that we can cure them. Bernnie Madoff is also an excellent example of a Nux-vomica patient; the moron from QuackBusters who posts here as MRC Hans is also an excellent example of a God-damned Nux-vomica patient; and a whole slew of Nux-vomica patients recently appeared before hearings in the U.S. Congress about the debacles they created worldwide as God-damned bankers and executives. It’s furthermore necessary to say that they were recently able to do their worst to the entire world through the insane Presidency of a God-damned religious maniac who needs Veratrum album. At the height of their kind of insanity, Veratrum-album patients are the street-corner preachers of Hell and damnation who castigate passersby with shouts of condemnation: "Repent, repent, sayeth the Lord!" etc. As a nation and even as a world, we barely survived the most insane U.S. President in history. Worse, all of this happened only because the majority of voting Americans are also horribly ignorant, dangerously servile, ridiculously complacent, destructively selfish, totally brainwashed, pitifully brain damaged from premature cutting of their umbilical cords and are thus quite insane. That’s kind of pathetic, isn’t it? We now have yet another in a long line of super-morons in the White House, and this guy’s proving it by insanely believing that allopathic medicine can be reformed or even that any attempt at it should be made. Wrongo, daddyo! Thankfully, we will eventually run out of evil people -- whether it be that they’re knowingly or unwittingly evil -- as they all cycle through their last lifetimes and all according to the Great Plan put into the Great Pyramid of Giza seven thousand years ago. Believe me, President Obama may seem like a nice guy, but he’s horribly misguided and has already accumulated so much negative karma that he’ll never again be able to even sustain incarnation, so he’s doomed. That is, however, the invariable destiny for all rich people, so don’t be surprised, and let them all go to Hell since it will be for the best ultimate good in the long run for everyone concerned -- even them -- that they exit our Human Life Wave. We can’t change this ongoing nightmare until we install the 9 specific Laws of Karma & Economy into our national charters by national referendums, but that clearly won’t happen within our lifetimes because all of the present populations are, again, hopelessly ignorant, servile, complacent, selfish, brainwashed and brain damaged (from premature cutting of their umbilical cord). Horribly backward and warped societies like these naturally produce lots of Nux-vomica patients because economic principles simply don’t guide useless and evil societies like these. More often than not, however, Nux-vomica patients instead obtain positions in middle management and as professionals simply because there are so many of them. The corruptions of super-wealth (personified in God-damned college fraternities and sororities) coupled with the Peter Principle (i.e., “People rise to their highest level of incompetence” because they then no longer get promoted) tend to govern who rises to the top, but the fact remains that people needing Nux vomica and its cognates are almost always found in positions of power because only scoundrels occupy the seats of power throughout our societies. If you believe otherwise, you need to rethink Christ’s condemnation of the rich and His statement that “they see but do not perceive.” This corruption of Souls and abuse of power holds for all seats of power, too, from top to bottom. For instance, restaurant managers are probably at the bottom, but examine their tyrannies, and you’ll find this is true. The guiding principle of all businesses in free-market societies that lack the 9 specific Laws of Karma & Economy (karma being Sanskrit for “carryover”) is to maximize profits, and this always includes paying unfair wages. In effect, they go, “You know that I can get someone to do your job for less, so I’m actually doing you a favor to allow you to be my salve, right?” Personally, I find that most people need new brains, but, fortunately, that’s fundamentally exactly what homeopathy does. Our horrible power structures produce scads of positions for these mongrels and the many cognates of Nux vomica, so they naturally permeate all positions of power and authority throughout the world. It’s getting scarier every second, isn’t it? We could cure them, but it’s not going to happen en masse, which is what would be required, so just forget it. This unfortunately doesn’t ever stop and won’t until they and their kind are finally gone forever through the abomination of embalming coupled with the equivalent horror of the very existence of the rich. That’s why, after reseizing his brain in the tomb, the Master Jesus told St. John in REVELATION 20:2 (the last pages of the BIBLE) that evil shall be bound discarnant. In fact, we’re living at the beginning of that 1000-year period when that was scheduled to occur 7000 years ago. Specifically, that began in November 1998 when Armageddon (a series of wars that started in 1914) ended, and its function is to remove the 12 billion low-grade human Egos who constantly create Hell on Earth from the possibility for further reincarnation so that only the one billion discarnant Saints can then reincarnate and form the Kingdom of God (K.O.G.) on Earth after an asteroid or comet hits the Earth and creates another Pole Shift, mass extinction and end of civilization. It’s all very predictable, and most of the hyper-accurate pyramid prophecies are actually because incarnant Saints have fulfilled prophecies. Now, almost everyone in the entire world has seen this on the back of the U.S. dollar bill. Considering that almost no one knows what I'm talking about, that's kind of amazing, isn't it? ----------------------------- Note: This is a work under construction with a lot yet to be typed up and lots more extracted to separate papers, so please do not respond to this until it’s finished, which will be known because I’ll then remove these two rider notes. I add November 7th 2009: I'm not in any real hurry about this because the below-posting morons from somewhere else, probably the Moon, have posted still more off-topic chatter, clatter/noise and prattle that surely no one will bother to read, as though anyone read the nonsense earlier posted by these vain morons. One of the additional papers this one will link with is titled Learning the Remedies. God bless!
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Albert, also Hahnemannian444B Last edited by Hahnemannian444; 11th November 2009 at 05:56 PM.
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4th November 2009, 04:15 PM
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H1N1 in southern hemisphere
Are there reports of H1N1 rates and fatalities from anywhere in the southern hemisphere?
Especially interested in lab confirmations. Thanks. Richard Knapp EAS - Data Warehouse Group University of Missouri 615 Locust Street #300 or 712 Lewis Hall Columbia, MO 65201 573-882-8856 (LSB) 573-882-4126 (Lewis) knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu -----Original Message----- From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com [mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Mike Law Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:34 AM To: shannonnelson tds.net; homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com Subject: Re: [H] Nux vomica w/o irritability? Nux-v does not have to be irritable but diarrhea is a contraindication, I can think of scores of cases where children have needed nux-v usually for acute constipation. To understand Nux vomica. Get a really bad hangover, then take a dose, feel better instantly. If you were a poison nut last night take a poison nut in the morning. A poison nut... I have had a few bosses like that, Nux-v does seem to become the boss, if not own the business out right. The girl running the cash register crying is pulsatilla, the reason she is cryng is the nux-vomica boss yelled at her. I once heard" the reason there are so many sepia women, is because there are so many Nux-vomica men" But women also need nux-v, compliments sepia. that always seemed ironic and men do need sepia, I missed a few of those in my earlier days Materia medica is so cool the more you learn the more you want to learn. peace to all, Mike > [Original Message] > From: shannonnelson tds.net <shannonnelson (AT) tds (DOT) net> > To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com> > Date: 7/30/2009 4:00:34 PM > Subject: [H] Nux vomica w/o irritability? > > I'm trying to expand my understanding of Nux vomica. :-) Does anyone have > cases they can share where it was useful in a case that did not also show > irritability? > I'd also love to hear cases where it was needed in a child. > > Thanks! > Shannon >
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4th November 2009, 08:15 PM
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Kids with Swine flu
My son has been detected with H1N1 positive.*
Symptoms: Hallucinations (people yelling at him),* kept crying that people are yelling at me, severe headache, high fever, stomach ache. Surprisingly, the*allopath*asked if any medication is being given.* I mentioned that I have been giving him Aconite for the fever. She asked me if I was interested in Tamiflu shots or leave it alone.* I preferred to leave it alone.* She also advised that it is better to leave it alone since the Tamiflu shots have several side effects. I bought oscillococcinum (quiet expensive) from Rite Aid and succussed it in a 500ml bottle with 4 pills.* In between, I have been giving them Aconite and loads of water, warm orange juice.**Son*is better - no fever, stomach upset, is on liquid diet.* Daughter*who was showing signs of H1N1 is doing good with the same treatment. Will China protect*them with the dehydration.* On several occassions, I have used it successfully for very high fevers, parched lips and craving for water. Regards, Kotti
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4th November 2009, 08:45 PM
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Re: Kids with Swine flu
I would like to add to this. My son (17 years old) was exposed to H1N1 - his debate partner came to a tournament very sick and they worked together for 2 days in close quarters, but he did not tell me until it was over. I immediately started him on Gelsemium 30C in water, twice daily, beginning Saturday night. On Saturday, he said he felt achy but he had no fever or any other symptoms.
He continued on the Gels twice daily, and on Tuesday morning woke up and said he was achy, had a headache, and his stomach was not precisely nauseated but more like cramps. He stayed home from school and slept for most of the day, so obviously there was some fatigue as well. On this day I switched him to Ipecacuanha 30C in water. He took it 3-4 times that day. By evening, the stomach involvement was gone. Still no fever, no coughing, no other symptoms - just general achiness, headache, and fatigue. At that point, I switched back to Gels 30C. He took it last night and this morning (Wed morning). He is back in school (important day) but may stay home tomorrow if he's still under the weather. My question is - could this be very mild H1N1? Should I continue with Gels or Ip? The rest of the family is taking Gels 30C in water twice daily as a preventive, since he came home with the exposure news on Saturday. Does this sound appropriate? Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: shake rama <sk47203 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 2:10 pm Subject: [H] Kids with Swine flu > My son has been detected with H1N1 positive.* > Symptoms: Hallucinations (people yelling at him),* kept crying > that people are yelling at me, severe headache, high fever, > stomach ache. > > Surprisingly, the*allopath*asked if any medication is being > given.* I mentioned that I have been giving him Aconite for the fever. > She asked me if I was interested in Tamiflu shots or leave it > alone.* I preferred to leave it alone.* She also advised that it > is better to leave it alone since the Tamiflu shots have several > side effects. > > I bought oscillococcinum (quiet expensive) from Rite Aid and > succussed it in a 500ml bottle with 4 pills.* In between, I have > been giving them Aconite and loads of water, warm orange > juice.**Son*is better - no fever, stomach upset, is on liquid diet.* > > Daughter*who was showing signs of H1N1 is doing good with the same > treatment. > Will China protect*them with the dehydration.* On several > occassions, I have used it successfully for very high fevers, > parched lips and craving for water. > > Regards, > Kotti > > > >
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5th November 2009, 12:15 AM
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Re: Kids with Swine flu
Hi Tracy,
What I keep reading is that the vast majority of cases of H1N1 *are* minor, and sometimes barely even a nuisance; it's only a minority that become severely ill. I read here and there that Vitamin D has a *strong* preventative and curative effect on flu in general, and so presumably also this variant--recommendation I read is to take at least 2,000 IU daily during the winter when *not* sick, and increase to 5,000 IU daily--or more--when ill. But for remedy, I'd say see how he does. Gels seems reasonable; if he seems to need more remedy, and the Gels seems to help, then I'd continue, or he may not need it--how is he by now? My son had a touch of the same, just dry cough and mild-to-moderate nausea, fatigue, lasted a few days, but never got very bad. Unfortunately I was away for most of it, so didn't get details, and didn't give him any remedy, but he didn't seem to need anything other than rest. The only unusual thing about this was that my son doesn't usually catch things! Hopefully this means they're "protected" now? :-) (Okay, okay, better not assume anything...) Kotti, I'm glad yours is better now--sounds like he had a rougher ride! I hadn't heard the "delusions" mentioned as one of the symptoms, but will keep it in mind now. Was that while the fever was highest, do you know? :-) Shannon On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:36 PM, tnewman (AT) everestkc (DOT) net wrote: > I would like to add to this. My son (17 years old) was exposed to > H1N1 - his debate partner came to a tournament very sick and they > worked together for 2 days in close quarters, but he did not tell me > until it was over. I immediately started him on Gelsemium 30C in > water, twice daily, beginning Saturday night. On Saturday, he said > he felt achy but he had no fever or any other symptoms. > > He continued on the Gels twice daily, and on Tuesday morning woke up > and said he was achy, had a headache, and his stomach was not > precisely nauseated but more like cramps. He stayed home from school > and slept for most of the day, so obviously there was some fatigue > as well. On this day I switched him to Ipecacuanha 30C in water. He > took it 3-4 times that day. By evening, the stomach involvement was > gone. Still no fever, no coughing, no other symptoms - just general > achiness, headache, and fatigue. > > At that point, I switched back to Gels 30C. He took it last night > and this morning (Wed morning). He is back in school (important day) > but may stay home tomorrow if he's still under the weather. > > My question is - could this be very mild H1N1? Should I continue > with Gels or Ip? The rest of the family is taking Gels 30C in water > twice daily as a preventive, since he came home with the exposure > news on Saturday. Does this sound appropriate? > > Tracy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: shake rama <sk47203 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> > Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 2:10 pm > Subject: [H] Kids with Swine flu > >> My son has been detected with H1N1 positive. >> Symptoms: Hallucinations (people yelling at him), kept crying >> that people are yelling at me, severe headache, high fever, >> stomach ache. >> >> Surprisingly, the allopath asked if any medication is being >> given. I mentioned that I have been giving him Aconite for the >> fever. >> She asked me if I was interested in Tamiflu shots or leave it >> alone. I preferred to leave it alone. She also advised that it >> is better to leave it alone since the Tamiflu shots have several >> side effects. >> >> I bought oscillococcinum (quiet expensive) from Rite Aid and >> succussed it in a 500ml bottle with 4 pills. In between, I have >> been giving them Aconite and loads of water, warm orange >> juice. Son is better - no fever, stomach upset, is on liquid diet. >> >> Daughter who was showing signs of H1N1 is doing good with the same >> treatment. >> Will China protect them with the dehydration. On several >> occassions, I have used it successfully for very high fevers, >> parched lips and craving for water. >> >> Regards, >> Kotti >> >> >> >>
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6th November 2009, 05:05 PM
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Re: Kids with Swine flu
This is what I heard and is true in the case of my son:
The flu is mild the first time.* Cough, sore throat are the first symptoms.* Goes away in 2 to 3 weeks.* After a gap of 2 weeks, it comes back with a bang,* sore throat, high fever, etc. Is that what many of you are experiencing with your patients? Today both of my kids are on their feet and have gone to the school and no call from the school yet.* Daughter is still weak and needs lot of fluids to keep herself from not being dehydrated.* Son still has the cough which seems to be adamant and not giving up. Regards, Kotti ________________________________ From: Shannon & Bob Nelson <shannonnelson (AT) tds (DOT) net> To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 4:13:35 PM Subject: Re: [H] Kids with Swine flu Hi Tracy, What I keep reading is that the vast majority of cases of H1N1 *are** minor, and sometimes barely even a nuisance; it's only a minority that* become severely ill. I read here and there that Vitamin D has a *strong* preventative and* curative effect on flu in general, and so presumably also this* variant--recommendation I read is to take at least 2,000 IU daily* during the winter when *not* sick, and increase to 5,000 IU daily--or* more--when ill.* But for remedy, I'd say see how he does.* Gels seems* reasonable; if he seems to need more remedy, and the Gels seems to* help, then I'd continue, or he may not need it--how is he by now? My son had a touch of the same, just dry cough and mild-to-moderate* nausea, fatigue, lasted a few days, but never got very bad.* Unfortunately I was away for most of it, so didn't get details, and* didn't give him any remedy, but he didn't seem to need anything other* than rest.* The only unusual thing about this was that my son doesn't* usually catch things! Hopefully this means they're "protected" now?* :-)* (Okay, okay,* better not assume anything...) Kotti, I'm glad yours is better now--sounds like he had a rougher* ride!* I* hadn't heard the "delusions" mentioned as one of the* symptoms, but will keep it in mind now.* Was that while the fever was* highest, do you know? :-) Shannon On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:36 PM, tnewman (AT) everestkc (DOT) net wrote: > I would like to add to this. My son (17 years old) was exposed to* > H1N1 - his debate partner came to a tournament very sick and they* > worked together for 2 days in close quarters, but he did not tell me* > until it was over. I immediately started him on Gelsemium 30C in* > water, twice daily, beginning Saturday night. On Saturday, he said* > he felt achy but he had no fever or any other symptoms. > > He continued on the Gels twice daily, and on Tuesday morning woke up* > and said he was achy, had a headache, and his stomach was not* > precisely nauseated but more like cramps. He stayed home from school* > and slept for most of the day, so obviously there was some fatigue* > as well. On this day I switched him to Ipecacuanha 30C in water. He* > took it 3-4 times that day. By evening, the stomach involvement was* > gone. Still no fever, no coughing, no other symptoms - just general* > achiness, headache, and fatigue. > > At that point, I switched back to Gels 30C. He took it last night* > and this morning (Wed morning). He is back in school (important day)* > but may stay home tomorrow if he's still under the weather. > > My question is - could this be very mild H1N1? Should I continue* > with Gels or Ip? The rest of the family is taking Gels 30C in water* > twice daily as a preventive, since he came home with the exposure* > news on Saturday. Does this sound appropriate? > > Tracy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: shake rama <sk47203 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> > Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 2:10 pm > Subject: [H] Kids with Swine flu > >> My son has been detected with H1N1 positive. >> Symptoms: Hallucinations (people yelling at him),* kept crying >> that people are yelling at me, severe headache, high fever, >> stomach ache. >> >> Surprisingly, the allopath asked if any medication is being >> given.* I mentioned that I have been giving him Aconite for the* >> fever. >> She asked me if I was interested in Tamiflu shots or leave it >> alone.* I preferred to leave it alone.* She also advised that it >> is better to leave it alone since the Tamiflu shots have several >> side effects. >> >> I bought oscillococcinum (quiet expensive) from Rite Aid and >> succussed it in a 500ml bottle with 4 pills.* In between, I have >> been giving them Aconite and loads of water, warm orange >> juice.* Son is better - no fever, stomach upset, is on liquid diet. >> >> Daughter who was showing signs of H1N1 is doing good with the same >> treatment. >> Will China protect them with the dehydration.* On several >> occassions, I have used it successfully for very high fevers, >> parched lips and craving for water. >> >> Regards, >> Kotti >> >> >> >>
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