At 07:00 AM 4/25/2009, you wrote:
>Sheri -- Just saw the thing about the swine flu on the news....have
>any insight or have you heard anything about how/where it
>originated? Apparently CDC already has vaccine plans, which I think
>is a bit curious. Also Roche (who makes Tamiflu) is ready to make a
>whole bunch more as well.
>I am in the process of reading "Fear of the Unknown" and have become
>incredibly suspicious of sudden outbreaks like this!!! I was
>googling around, but haven't really come across anything other than
>CDC and news reports.
>Thanks!!!!!


Well, I can't say for sure, but most of the Avian flu situation, I
believe has to do with toxins and not flu at all
Same here...............

And I think that is the case for most things - toxic exposures and
toxins in the body - nothing to do with a so-called virus or bacteria

See my Bird Flu pages
http://www.wellwithin1.com/avianbirdflu.htm

We saw the same hype for Bird Flu and I think it is about toxic
exposure in Mexico and Texas too. Or something engineered. Possibly
something engineered could cause a problem.

I have to look further and hear from my colleagues. They couldn't
get us to get upset about Bird Flu and panic so trying a new tact.

Yes, lots of ways to make money............vaccine, drugs, and more

People need to start getting the word out about the links and also
about the swine flu fiasco in the past under Gerald Ford and all the
deaths and injuries from the vaccine for that panic based on nothing

Will keep all posted
Sheri

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Washigton Post-

Army Nearly Done With Probe of Fort Detrick Lab

No Signs of Criminal Misconduct Found Yet in Disappearance of Virus, Official Says














By Nelson Hernandez and Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, April 23, 2009

Army investigators are close to closing a probe into the disappearance of deadly pathogens at Fort Detrick's infectious disease laboratory in Frederick and have found no evidence yet of criminal misconduct, the Army's Criminal Investigation Command said yesterday.
The investigation of the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases is "in the final stages of its mandatory review process before being closed," said Christopher Grey, a spokesman for the criminal investigation division. The command "has found no evidence to date of any criminality related to the unaccounted-for items," he said.
Since last year, investigators have been trying to discover what happened to three small vials of Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus that were unaccounted for, according to Caree Vander Linden, the spokeswoman for the lab.
Although the quantity of the missing virus sample is small, the investigation shows how seriously military authorities take a possible security breach at the Army lab, which is responsible for developing countermeasures to such potential biological agents as anthrax and Ebola. The investigation was first reported yesterday in the Frederick News-Post.
The virus that causes Venezuelan equine encephalitis is mosquito borne and usually causes a mild flulike illness but can also cause brain inflammation and death. It has potential for use as a biological weapon but is far less lethal than some other agents the lab works with.
Vander Linden said that when one scientist left the institute several years ago, he handed down his materials to another scientist, who left three years later. Last year, a successor took an inventory of the samples and found three vials missing, triggering an investigation, she said. The vials were probably missing because a freezer in which they were kept failed, destroying the batch, she said.


Vander Linden declined to name the scientists involved.
"We'll probably never know exactly what happened," an Army official said. "It could be the freezer malfunction. It could be they never existed." Although one lead scientist has responsibility for a stock of biological material, many lab workers on that scientist's staff might have access to it, so Army investigators have talked to "literally hundreds of people" but have apparently found no "criminality involved," said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.
Alan Schmaljohn, a longtime scientist at the lab who is now a professor at the University of Maryland, said he had been questioned........................................

Ok what is the real story here............................?

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MORE:
Both the World Health Organization and the US CDC (Center for Disease Control) have announced, today/24th April, that they are 'very concerned' about a global pandemic developing out of this new disease. Based on advanced biowargaming projections, it is already too late to stop the global spread of this new killer disease. Based on the three waves of Spanish Flu, the latter ones being more lethal, fatality rates may range from approximately 10% to 40% or so in later waves. More people could die in America, Mexico, Canada, Europe, and globally from Mexican Swine Flu than died in World War II. This new flu is a lab created advanced biological warfare DNA genetically engineered virus that either: (1) Escaped accidentally from a lab; or (2) was deliberately released by a nation or non-state organization

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Spanish flu
Bird flu
Swine Flu
Something in common? Man Made?

Was The 'Spanish Flu'
Epidemic Man-Made?
Sixty Million Dead In 1918-19
By Henry Makow PhD
12-2-6
In 1948 Heinrich Mueller, the former head of the Gestapo, told his CIA interrogator that the most devastating plague in human history was man-made.
He was referring to the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 that infected 20% of the world's population and killed between 60 and 100 million people. This is roughly 3 times as many as were killed and wounded in World War One, and is comparable to WWII losses, yet this modern plague has disappeared down the memory hole.
Mueller said the flu started as a US army bacteriological warfare weapon that somehow infected US army ranks at Camp Riley KS in March 1918, and spread around the world. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influenza/peopleevents/pandeAMEX86.html
He says that it "got out of control" but we cannot discount the horrible possibility that the "Spanish Flu" was a deliberate elite depopulation measure, and that it could be used again. Researchers have found connections between it and the current "Bird Flu." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4308872.stm%20
There was nothing "Spanish" about this flu. According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu%20
"In the U.S., about 28% of the population suffered, and 500,000 to 675,000 died. In Britain 200,000 died; in France more than 400,000. Entire villages perished in Alaska and southern Africa. In Australia an estimated 10,000 people died and in the Fiji Islands, 14% of the population died during only two weeks, and in Western Samoa 22%. An estimated 17 million died in India, about 5% of India's population at the time. In the Indian Army, almost 22% of troops who caught the disease died of it."
"Indeed, symptoms in 1918 were so unusual that initially influenza was misdiagnosed as dengue, cholera, or typhoid. One observer wrote, "One of the most striking of the complications was hemorrhage from mucous membranes, especially from the nose, stomach, and intestine. Bleeding from the ears and petechial hemorrhages in the skin also occurred.

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From;Motherjones (online journal)
Swine Flu: Bringing Home the Bacon

— By James Ridgeway | Mon April 27, 2009 7:08 AM PST

As the world gears up once again for a flu pandemic that may or may not arrive (it actually seems possible this time), we might want to remember some of the lessons of the last flu scare. One of these is that there are winners as well as losers in every high-profile outbreak of infectious disease. First and foremost among them, of course, is Big Pharma, which can always be counted on to have its hand out wherever human misery presents an opportunity to rake in some cash.
In 2005, I reported on the bird flu scare for the Village Voice in a piece called “Capitalizing on the Flu.” We can realistically hope that our current federal government will improve upon the bungled effort made by the Bush Administration to prepare for the onslaught of avian flu—which fortunately didn’t materialize. But certain aspects of the crisis are likely to be repeated, and profiteers will surely waste no time in gathering at the trough.
Then, as now, one of the two effective antidotes was a drug called Tamiflu. But this silver bullet came with side effects, as well as a high price tag. As I reported in 2005:

With no vaccine in sight, the U.S. government, along with others, is belatedly stocking up on Tamiflu, a drug that supposedly offers some defense against bird flu. But last week Japanese newspapers told how children who were administered Tamiflu went mad and tried to kill themselves by jumping out of windows. In a cautionary statement the FDA noted 12 deaths among children, and said there are reports of psychiatric disturbances, including hallucinations, along with heart and lung disorders. Roche, the manufacturer, is quoted by the BBC as stating that the rate of deaths and psychiatric problems is no higher among those taking its medication than among those with flu. The company is increasing Tamiflu production to 300 million doses a year to meet demand.
There are other reasons people are leery of Tamiflu. Given the rip-offs in Iraq and after the hurricanes, people are understandably interested in knowing just who is going to get rich off the plague. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, himself former CEO of drug company Searle, currently owns stock in the one company that owns Tamiflu patents—to the tune of at least $18 million. Rumsfeld says he understands why people might question his holdings, but selling them would raise even more questions. So he is hanging on to what he’s got.

A report by Citicorp at the time described which pharmaceutical manufacturers and other comapnies stood to make money:

Winners could include drug makers such as Gilead Sciences, Roche, GlaxoSmithKline, and Sanofi-Aventis. Other possible winners are hospital chains such as Rhoen Klinikum, cleaning-products makers such as Henkel, Ecolab, and Clorox, as well as home entertainment companies such as Blockbuster and Nintendo….
In order for the pharmaceutical companies to profit from making flu vaccine in the administration’s $7.1 billion pandemic flu plan, Bush now is proposing to ban liability suits against them except in cases of willful misconduct. As for those injured by a flu vaccine, possible lawsuits remain an open question….
With a worldwide market estimated at more than $1 billion, there’s big money in a flu plague. Kimberly-Clark’s Chinese subsidiary is already ramping up manufacture of new lines of medical masks, wipes, and hand-washing liquids, according to Business Week, with consulting firms Kroll and Booz Allen Hamilton selling flu preparedness advice to companies and governments. “Crisis is an opportunity as long as you see it first,” Pitney Bowes’s Christian Crews tells the magazine.

Of course, that was then, and this is now. In the coming days we’re bound to discover who’s pulling in the pork this time. But even before the U.S. markets open this morning, early indications aren’t hard to find: “Fears of a potential pandemic are bringing down stock markets around the world today,” public radio’s “Marketplace” reports from London, ”but two big pharmaceutical companies are getting a boost from the news”:

Shares in Switzerland’s leading drug maker, Roche, are up nearly 4 percent this morning. The company says it’s scaling up production of Tamiflu.

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As Swine Flu Spreads, Conspiracy Theories of Laboratory Origins Abound

By Mike Adams, NaturalNews Editor
April 27 - Perhaps due to the genetic makeup of the fast-spreading H1N1 strain of influenza -- which includes genetic elements from bird flu, swine flu and human flu spanning three continents -- there is considerable speculation...

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Wow. Paranoia runs rampant....

Tracy

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> AS SWINE FLU SPREADS,
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> (\"HTTP://WWW.NATURALNEWS.COM/026141.HTML\")By Mike Adams,
> NaturalNews Editor
> -April 27- - Perhaps due to the genetic makeup of the fast-spreading
> H1N1 strain of influenza -- which includes genetic elements from bird
> flu, swine flu and human flu spanning three continents -- there is
> considerable speculation...
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See Sheri Nakkens Link:
Clouds of Secrecy: The Army's Germ Warfare Tests Over PopulatedAreas
Sheri Nakken

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to mandate the vaccination of the public with vaccines that are intentionally contaminated with live H1N1 viruses.

Does that sound far-fetched? Consider the news item published here on NaturalNews just one month ago, entitled Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries (http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html).

As that article explained, one pharmaceutical company was caught inserting LIVE bird flu viruses into vaccine materials sent to 18 countries. Was this a trial run for the H1N1 global infection effort? It certainly raises suspicions. When a new virus seemingly "engineered" from three different species suddenly appears in multiple nations -- just one month after a drug company was busted inserting live bird flu viral fragments into globally-distributed vaccine materials --

it should raise the eyebrows of even the most steadfast skeptics.
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SWINEFLU article by www.mercola.com

see link below;

ten page special report on this vital topic so you can avoid deception and manipulation by the conventional media.

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