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Old 6th April 2009, 07:45 PM
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Hi LIst, I Stopped in Homeopathy Works yesterday to pick up one of the cool Hahnemann was right T-shirts.
Sam Herman comes out and waits on us, she was just back from Seattle where she manned the HW table at the NCH conference.
We are talking Homeopathy ( what else) when she mentions a few days before the FDA raided the store
4 agents front door and 4 back door, ( jesus are they tryin to give our dear Linda a heart attack) If I understood her correctly. this may affect the ability to buy a Nosode
from there store with a RX. Joe and Linda were not there sunday for me to get there take on this, I have heard
of the weirdness of the FDA, Joe and Linda run a very nice respectable business in our community ,( Berkley Springs WV),employing some 30 people.
Have always supported the homeopathic community as well as ALL decent local causes. I am frequently told I can not
purchase various remedies that I want to purchase due to them being prescription only. SIGH!
anyway I suggest it's a great time to place an order of some remedy( not a RX?) you must need and show Homeopathy Works your love and support. IThe FDA needs some serious reform, Bad government agency. NO DONUT!
Apologies to Sam, Joe and Linda for gossiping but if this is true,( Sam wouldn't lie to us and it wasn't april 1 it was the 3rd) the homeopathic community should be aware of how our right to health care is being rapidly taken.

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Old 7th April 2009, 08:18 PM
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same when you want to order MT (Q) potencies.
Impossible unless you have a "MD" prescription.
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Old 9th April 2009, 03:05 AM
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When I first learned of homeopathy all our remedies were easily obtained,
except Opium ,Cannabis, Cocaine.
those being banned was idiotic enough, I mean there is nothing there.
Why have we as freedom loving individuals not put a stop to this madness.
Oh sure remedies will always be around. I wonder if I can get the local
hoods to start selling carcinosin
and tuberculinium on the street corner. This wiould be funny if
this were not so horribly tragic. Smell my dogs ears
he needs psorinum, whats going to happen when my dogs wonderful
homeopathic vet writes a RX
and there is no one who will fill it because they have been so
imtimidated by the FDA. Who are the bastards that want my dogs to have
smelly itchy ears or my neighbors kid to have autism because they can't get
carcinosin. Those 2 hyperactive kids
running around my house yeaterday are going to need a nosode
sometime in the future if they are going to ever be healthy
normal adults. Who are these idiots and what pile of garbage science
are they pushing to justify this nonsense.
I can buy guns, alcohol, over the counter **** poisons, crack and
heroin on every corner in America.
But I can't get the syphilinum that cures my insanity, aghhhhhh I
feel better now, I just couldnt suppress that
rage. Peace, Mike




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Old 9th April 2009, 06:02 AM
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Dear Mike
I am on the same page..........
The regulations by gov policy is pushed through by bills,these bills are superimposed and heavily multi layered with sneaky additions that consumers just dont know about unless they actually start doing some serious researching.
To name Just one
Example :
my posts at otherhealth on GMO food/seeds (our new bill passed by obama)Monsanto-Vilsack- Toxic GMO...
Monsanto Dirty secrets



GMO soy/population control by gov?



More elaboration by Kaviraj at www.hpathy.com (also GMO/Monsanto subject heading.
Monsanto again - GMO's

But here is the sad part:
Do you notice how no one replies to these important messages ?-ignorance is bliss/ignore it and it will go away/oh its not happening in my country i dont care/who cares about GMO I want a suggestion for my herpes ................are the gist of discussion forums these days.
Yes Mike I am on the same page.............................

mike posted:"Who are these idiots and what pile of garbage science
are they pushing to justify this nonsense.......................................... ........................................."
My reply; sheep following other sheep to their slaughter (the typical citizen/consumer)That's who...................

Now back on the subject of medicine/drugs:
Words of Hahnemann condemning Medicine of his time. - Dr P.Singh
nov-dec 2007 on lineEzine issue :history of Homeopathy" at www.homeorizon.com

See Mike, this practice of allowance of so called approved drugs (and the use of toxic allopathy)has even bothered Hahnemann...................................nothin g has changed.
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Old 10th April 2009, 01:15 PM
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homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com wrote:
> But here is the sad part:
> Do you notice how no one replies to these important messages
> ?-ignorance is bliss/ignore it and it will go away/oh its not happening
> in my country i dont care/who cares about GMO I want a suggestion for my
> herpes ................are the gist of discussion forums these days.
> Yes Mike I am on the same page.............................


What is it that you would have "us" do?

There is so much outrage these days that every individual must pick and
choose their battles. If I joined everyone alongside them in their
battles, I would have no friends, no job, no energy, and no sanity.

If there is some specific action that you think people should do about
this, then perhaps you could facilitate it by making it a little easier
- if for example you think list members should write a letter, then show
us what you have written, and to whom, that kind of thing.

Dave
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Old 10th April 2009, 01:55 PM
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homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com wrote:
> But here is the sad part:
> Do you notice how no one replies to these important messages
> ?-ignorance is bliss/ignore it and it will go away/oh its not happening
> in my country i dont care/who cares about GMO I want a suggestion for my
> herpes ................are the gist of discussion forums these days.
> Yes Mike I am on the same page.............................


What is it that you would have "us" do?

There is so much outrage these days that every individual must pick and
choose their battles. If I joined everyone alongside them in their
battles, I would have no friends, no job, no energy, and no sanity.

If there is some specific action that you think people should do about
this, then perhaps you could facilitate it by making it a little easier
- if for example you think list members should write a letter, then show
us what you have written, and to whom, that kind of thing.

Dave

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Old 12th April 2009, 12:17 AM
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Dave posted:"If there is some specific action that you think people should do about
this.............................................. .................................................. ..................."

my reply;
Its called "speak your mind" by exposing such corruption.
1-Using discussion forums to share alternative knowledge.
2-explain why allopathics/big pharma are so dangerous
3-expose the FDA,AMA,CDC, EPA for all that they are.
4-present options other than what is the acceptable norm
5-posts research links so others can add to a database
6-write articles on line ezine and or articles in magazines
The media(paid hype) has taken over our logical individual thinking process,its time to think for yourself and share with others what you have found out..................................
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Old 12th April 2009, 01:05 PM
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The biggest threat we have is Codex Alimentarius - http://www.homoeopathyclassical.com/codex.htm.

Here's a quick summary of Codex goals and objectives, and this is from the National Health Federation:

International (global) harmonisation - 'Harm...onisation' - there's nothing good about this process;
Abolition of Organic Farming - through the abolition of labelling;
Introduction of GM food and livestock;
Removal of all ingredient-labelling;
And restriction of all Natural remedies, to include all supplements, herbs, vitamins, minerals, homeopathic remedies, flower remedies etc. etc.

People don't even realise in this country that the gradualism really kicked in two years ago, because there's still little bottles on the shelves that say supplement and vitamins and everything else, but get a bottle that is pre-2005 and get a current bottle and look at the dosage: the dosage has been dramatically reduced. The dosages that you can buy today in the UK are, basically, totally ineffectual - and this is the first step towards abolition.

So CODEX ALIMENTARIUS . . . :

Unlabelled GM processed foods which, of course, means low nutrients, low minerals, low vitamin values;
All vitamin and mineral supplements to be of low dosage, i.e. ineffectual;
And herbs and other natural health remedies to be classified as Drugs.



Just had a friend send me a link to some high dose vitamin c supplement they were told about - had a look - was by Seven Seas - looked a bit further - and they are part of the Merck pharmaceutical company - which also encompasses:

Seven Seas
New Era
Hofels
Multibionta
Haliborange
Minadex
Pulse
Califig
Milpar
Actal



And one other thing, only Medical Practitioners will be allowed to dispense homeopathic remedies if Codex gets its way.



To further support the end of organic farming:




From: Namaste Publishing [mailto:info (AT) namastepublishing (DOT) co.uk]
Sent: 31 March 2009 18:08
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Subject: IMPORTANT for USA Fw: A bill to outlaw organic farming next week? How could any human pass such a law?
Importance: High



Please network even if you are Europe





A bill to outlaw organic farming next week?

US House and Senate are about (in a week and a half) to vote on bill that will OUTLAW ORGANIC FARMING (bill HR 875). There is an enormous rush to get this into law within the next 2 weeks before people realize what is happening.



Main backer and lobbyist is (guess who) Monsanto (aspartame maker) - chemical and genetic engineering giant corporation. This bill will require organic farms to use specific fertilizers and poisonous insect sprays dictated by the newly formed agency to "make sure there is no danger to the public food supply". This will include backyard gardens that grow food only for a family and not for sales.



If this passes then NO more heirloom clean seeds but only Monsanto genetically altered seeds that are now showing up with unexpected diseases in humans.



There is a video on the subject.



<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thE54K3PaTY>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thE54K3PaTY




And another one:



<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeWVkTU1s1E>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeWVkTU1s1E



The name on this outrageous food plan is Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009 (bill HR 875).



THIS IS REAL, FOLKS! PASS THIS ALONG TO ALL CONCERNED ON YOUR MAILING LISTS & CALL YOUR SENATE REPRESENTETIVES TODAY! Get on that phone and burn up the wires. Get anyone else you can to do the same thing. The House and Senate WILL pass this if they are not massively threatened with loss of their position.... They only fear your voice and your vote.



The best thing to do is go to <http://www.house.gov/writerep>www.house.gov/writerep <http://www.house.gov/writerep> <<http://www.house.gov/writerep>http://www.house.gov/writerep> all you have to do is put in your zip and it will give you your congressperson and how to get in touch with them. When you call their office someone will answer the phone, just tell them (politely) that you are calling to express your views on HR 875. Tell them your views, they'll take your name and address and pass your comments along to the congressperson. The following linkhttp://<http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm>http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm is a list of the U.S. senators and their contact info.



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A lot of things are happening all at once to bring an end to anything alternative and natural and to put the control of homeopathy into the hands of qualified medical practitioners only. I really don't see how any of the following suggestions will help counteract it. I'm not saying it can't be defeated. It's kind of David and Colliath battle, but it will take a lot more than just discussions on forums.


Ian Crane has been exposing corruption for many years but the FDA, Monsantos etc etc still carry on regardless.


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Many great articles have been written on homeopathy by great people but still big pharma writes articles about the placebo effect and people believe them instantly, regardless of evidence to the contrary. And let's not forget films that have been made about pharmaceutical corruption - yet still they flourish and have great power.





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homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com wrote:
Dave posted:"If there is some specific action that you think peopleshould do about this.............................................. .................................................. ...................."my reply;Its called "speak your mind" by exposing such corruption.1-Using discussion forums to share alternative knowledge.2-explain why allopathics/big pharma are so dangerous3-expose the FDA,AMA,CDC, EPA for all that they are.4-present options other than what is the acceptable norm5-posts research links so others can add to a database6-write articles on line ezine and or articles in magazinesThe media(paid hype) has taken over our logical individual thinkingprocess,its time to think for yourself and share with others what youhave found out..................................
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Thanks Christin!!!!!!!!!!!!!Great Post
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