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Old 11th September 2008, 03:46 PM
Sheri Nakken
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Default 12N Sept 11 Net/radio - Janine Roberts Press Conference &copies of Gallo documents

Here are some of those documents I mentioned on Gary Null's site

"Ms. Roberts that reveals Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National
Cancer Institute, intentionally distorted his laboratory's research
findings to make claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims
it is a cause of AIDS."

<http://www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1>http://www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1

Welcome to Gary Null's A.I.D.S. Information Page

Following is a collection of Articles, Videos, and Documentary
Trailers by Gary Null, Ph.D. on the subject of A.I.D.S.
This page will be continually updated with new materials as they
become available.


Exclusive Press Conference Interview with Janine Roberts

Gary will be hosting an exclusive press conference and interview with
British investigative journalist Janine Roberts on Thursday,
September 11, 2008 at Noon (EST). The broadcast will present for the
first time documentation and correspondence gathered by Ms. Roberts
that reveals Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National Cancer
Institute, intentionally distorted his laboratory's research findings
to make claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it is a
cause of AIDS.

Janine Roberts is an award winning British medical and cultural
journalist and author who has spent many years delving into the
medical research, science and politics of vaccines and dangerous
viruses, including AIDS and polio. She is the author of the recent
book Fear of the Invisible: How Scared Should We Be of Viruses and
Vaccines, HIV and AIDS? For more information, visit Janine's website
<http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com

Is an award winning British medical and cultural journalist, author,
environmental activist and film maker who has done programs for BBC,
ABC in Australia and PBS. Her most recent work has focused on an in
depth investigation into the politics behind dangerous viruses,
including AIDS and vaccines.

The broadcast can be heard in its entirety on the Progressive Radio
Network http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com New York City
metropolitan listeners can tune into WNYE 91.5 FM for part of the
broadcast following the station's 911 memorial event.

Documents

Exhibit One: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocA.pdf>Dr.
Gallo letter stating HIV (then called HTLV) is "extremely rare" in
AIDS patients. Composed one day prior to his submitting his most
important paper asserting HIV causes AIDS.

Exhibit
Two: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocB.pdf>Letter from
Dr. Gonda, Head of Electron Microscopy at the NIH reporting the
images Dr. Gallo wanted were only cellular rubbish.

Exhibit Three:
<http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocC.pdf>Typed draft
document written by lead author and scientist Dr. Popovic for
submission to Science magazine with Dr. Gallo's handwritten edits and comments.

Exhibit Four: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocD.pdf>The
1993 report by the Office of Research Integrity, US Department of
Health, indicting Dr. Gallo for medical fraud.


Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm & http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood
Diseases - next classes start in September
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Old 11th September 2008, 04:06 PM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Default Re: 12N Sept 11 Net/radio - Janine Roberts Press Conference &copies of Gallo documents

This is getting more and more off-topic.
What does any of it have to do with homeopathy?


On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> Here are some of those documents I mentioned on Gary Null's site
>
> "Ms. Roberts that reveals Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National
> Cancer Institute, intentionally distorted his laboratory's research
> findings to make claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it
> is a cause of AIDS."
>
> <http://www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1>http://
> www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1
>
> Welcome to Gary Null's A.I.D.S. Information Page
>
> Following is a collection of Articles, Videos, and Documentary
> Trailers by Gary Null, Ph.D. on the subject of A.I.D.S.
> This page will be continually updated with new materials as they
> become available.
>
>
> Exclusive Press Conference Interview with Janine Roberts
>
> Gary will be hosting an exclusive press conference and interview with
> British investigative journalist Janine Roberts on Thursday, September
> 11, 2008 at Noon (EST). The broadcast will present for the first time
> documentation and correspondence gathered by Ms. Roberts that reveals
> Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National Cancer Institute,
> intentionally distorted his laboratory's research findings to make
> claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it is a cause of
> AIDS.
>
> Janine Roberts is an award winning British medical and cultural
> journalist and author who has spent many years delving into the
> medical research, science and politics of vaccines and dangerous
> viruses, including AIDS and polio. She is the author of the recent
> book Fear of the Invisible: How Scared Should We Be of Viruses and
> Vaccines, HIV and AIDS? For more information, visit Janine's website
> <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com
>
> Is an award winning British medical and cultural journalist, author,
> environmental activist and film maker who has done programs for BBC,
> ABC in Australia and PBS. Her most recent work has focused on an in
> depth investigation into the politics behind dangerous viruses,
> including AIDS and vaccines.
>
> The broadcast can be heard in its entirety on the Progressive Radio
> Network http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com New York City
> metropolitan listeners can tune into WNYE 91.5 FM for part of the
> broadcast following the station's 911 memorial event.
>
> Documents
>
> Exhibit One: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocA.pdf>Dr.
> Gallo letter stating HIV (then called HTLV) is "extremely rare" in
> AIDS patients. Composed one day prior to his submitting his most
> important paper asserting HIV causes AIDS.
>
> Exhibit Two:
> <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocB.pdf>Letter from Dr.
> Gonda, Head of Electron Microscopy at the NIH reporting the images Dr.
> Gallo wanted were only cellular rubbish.
>
> Exhibit Three:
> <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocC.pdf>Typed draft
> document written by lead author and scientist Dr. Popovic for
> submission to Science magazine with Dr. Gallo's handwritten edits and
> comments.
>
> Exhibit Four: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocD.pdf>The
> 1993 report by the Office of Research Integrity, US Department of
> Health, indicting Dr. Gallo for medical fraud.
>
>
> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm &
> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
> ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood
> Diseases - next classes start in September
>
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Old 11th September 2008, 04:16 PM
Knapp, Richard
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Shannon,

I think homeopathy is about curing disease. I believe the man you call
"The Founder" mentions this early on in one of his books on the subject.
If practitioners of homeopathy hold fundamental and deeply mistaken
views on the nature of disease, how can that not affect their
prescribing and case management?

If I were to try to heal a disease, I would want to attack the problem
at its roots. So, for me anyway, discussion of the nature of disease is
valuable.

Richard Knapp
EAS - Data Warehouse Group
University of Missouri
615 Locust Street #300
Columbia, MO 65201
573-882-8856
knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu

-----Original Message-----
From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
[mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:56 AM
To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
Subject: Re: [H] 12N Sept 11 Net/radio - Janine Roberts Press Conference
&copies of Gallo documents

This is getting more and more off-topic.
What does any of it have to do with homeopathy?


On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> Here are some of those documents I mentioned on Gary Null's site
>
> "Ms. Roberts that reveals Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National
> Cancer Institute, intentionally distorted his laboratory's research
> findings to make claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it


> is a cause of AIDS."
>
> <http://www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1>http://
> www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1
>
> Welcome to Gary Null's A.I.D.S. Information Page
>
> Following is a collection of Articles, Videos, and Documentary
> Trailers by Gary Null, Ph.D. on the subject of A.I.D.S.
> This page will be continually updated with new materials as they
> become available.
>
>
> Exclusive Press Conference Interview with Janine Roberts
>
> Gary will be hosting an exclusive press conference and interview with


> British investigative journalist Janine Roberts on Thursday, September


> 11, 2008 at Noon (EST). The broadcast will present for the first time


> documentation and correspondence gathered by Ms. Roberts that reveals


> Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National Cancer Institute,
> intentionally distorted his laboratory's research findings to make
> claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it is a cause of
> AIDS.
>
> Janine Roberts is an award winning British medical and cultural
> journalist and author who has spent many years delving into the
> medical research, science and politics of vaccines and dangerous
> viruses, including AIDS and polio. She is the author of the recent
> book Fear of the Invisible: How Scared Should We Be of Viruses and
> Vaccines, HIV and AIDS? For more information, visit Janine's website
> <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com
>
> Is an award winning British medical and cultural journalist, author,
> environmental activist and film maker who has done programs for BBC,
> ABC in Australia and PBS. Her most recent work has focused on an in
> depth investigation into the politics behind dangerous viruses,
> including AIDS and vaccines.
>
> The broadcast can be heard in its entirety on the Progressive Radio
> Network http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com New York City
> metropolitan listeners can tune into WNYE 91.5 FM for part of the
> broadcast following the station's 911 memorial event.
>
> Documents
>
> Exhibit One: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocA.pdf>Dr.


> Gallo letter stating HIV (then called HTLV) is "extremely rare" in
> AIDS patients. Composed one day prior to his submitting his most
> important paper asserting HIV causes AIDS.
>
> Exhibit Two:
> <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocB.pdf>Letter from Dr.
> Gonda, Head of Electron Microscopy at the NIH reporting the images Dr.


> Gallo wanted were only cellular rubbish.
>
> Exhibit Three:
> <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocC.pdf>Typed draft
> document written by lead author and scientist Dr. Popovic for
> submission to Science magazine with Dr. Gallo's handwritten edits and


> comments.
>
> Exhibit Four: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocD.pdf>The


> 1993 report by the Office of Research Integrity, US Department of
> Health, indicting Dr. Gallo for medical fraud.
>
>
> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm &
> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
> ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood
> Diseases - next classes start in September
>
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Old 11th September 2008, 04:26 PM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Richard, please get your glasses on straight.

On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:

> Shannon,
>
> I think homeopathy is about curing disease. I believe the man you call
> "The Founder"


I have NEVER called him that. Please find me any post where I used
that term.
Seems you are confusing me with David Little--very flattering :-) but
very inaccurate.

> mentions this early on in one of his books on the subject.


Yep.
He also carefully explains points related to hygiene and contagion.
He also counsels strongly against getting our knickers in a twist over
elaborate theories. (Other than homeopathy, that is. :-D )

> If practitioners of homeopathy hold fundamental and deeply mistaken
> views on the nature of disease, how can that not affect their
> prescribing and case management?


To treat homeopathically, why might it matter to us whether HIV causes
AIDS? (Hint, it doesn't.)

And what are the other points... Mostly a lot of technical stuff, but
the other relevant debate was whether or not AIDS is contagious. Sheri
has said that it's not. Any homeopath who tells a patient they don't
need to be concerned about contagion with AIDS (and Sheri has also
stated that *no* disease is contagious) is just begging to be thrown
into jail, and IMO quite rightly so.

>
> If I were to try to heal a disease, I would want to attack the problem
> at its roots. So, for me anyway, discussion of the nature of disease
> is
> valuable.


Yes, yes! Please let's go back to a discussion about the nature of
disease.
Please let's stop this discussion about the causes and allopathic
treatment of AIDS.
Whew, at least we agree on something.
:-)
Shannon
>
> Richard Knapp
> EAS - Data Warehouse Group
> University of Missouri
> 615 Locust Street #300
> Columbia, MO 65201
> 573-882-8856
> knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon
> Nelson
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:56 AM
> To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> Subject: Re: [H] 12N Sept 11 Net/radio - Janine Roberts Press
> Conference
> &copies of Gallo documents
>
> This is getting more and more off-topic.
> What does any of it have to do with homeopathy?
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>
>> Here are some of those documents I mentioned on Gary Null's site
>>
>> "Ms. Roberts that reveals Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National
>> Cancer Institute, intentionally distorted his laboratory's research
>> findings to make claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it

>
>> is a cause of AIDS."
>>
>> <http://www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1>http://
>> www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1
>>
>> Welcome to Gary Null's A.I.D.S. Information Page
>>
>> Following is a collection of Articles, Videos, and Documentary
>> Trailers by Gary Null, Ph.D. on the subject of A.I.D.S.
>> This page will be continually updated with new materials as they
>> become available.
>>
>>
>> Exclusive Press Conference Interview with Janine Roberts
>>
>> Gary will be hosting an exclusive press conference and interview with

>
>> British investigative journalist Janine Roberts on Thursday, September

>
>> 11, 2008 at Noon (EST). The broadcast will present for the first time

>
>> documentation and correspondence gathered by Ms. Roberts that reveals

>
>> Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National Cancer Institute,
>> intentionally distorted his laboratory's research findings to make
>> claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it is a cause of
>> AIDS.
>>
>> Janine Roberts is an award winning British medical and cultural
>> journalist and author who has spent many years delving into the
>> medical research, science and politics of vaccines and dangerous
>> viruses, including AIDS and polio. She is the author of the recent
>> book Fear of the Invisible: How Scared Should We Be of Viruses and
>> Vaccines, HIV and AIDS? For more information, visit Janine's website
>> <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com
>>
>> Is an award winning British medical and cultural journalist, author,
>> environmental activist and film maker who has done programs for BBC,
>> ABC in Australia and PBS. Her most recent work has focused on an in
>> depth investigation into the politics behind dangerous viruses,
>> including AIDS and vaccines.
>>
>> The broadcast can be heard in its entirety on the Progressive Radio
>> Network http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com New York City
>> metropolitan listeners can tune into WNYE 91.5 FM for part of the
>> broadcast following the station's 911 memorial event.
>>
>> Documents
>>
>> Exhibit One: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocA.pdf>Dr.

>
>> Gallo letter stating HIV (then called HTLV) is "extremely rare" in
>> AIDS patients. Composed one day prior to his submitting his most
>> important paper asserting HIV causes AIDS.
>>
>> Exhibit Two:
>> <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocB.pdf>Letter from Dr.
>> Gonda, Head of Electron Microscopy at the NIH reporting the images Dr.

>
>> Gallo wanted were only cellular rubbish.
>>
>> Exhibit Three:
>> <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocC.pdf>Typed draft
>> document written by lead author and scientist Dr. Popovic for
>> submission to Science magazine with Dr. Gallo's handwritten edits and

>
>> comments.
>>
>> Exhibit Four: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocD.pdf>The

>
>> 1993 report by the Office of Research Integrity, US Department of
>> Health, indicting Dr. Gallo for medical fraud.
>>
>>
>> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm &
>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
>> ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood
>> Diseases - next classes start in September
>>
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Old 11th September 2008, 04:56 PM
Sheri Nakken
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Connect to the internet to listen to this
http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com
Sheri

>Richard, please get your glasses on straight.
>
>On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:
>
>>Shannon,
>>
>>I think homeopathy is about curing disease. I believe the man you call
>>"The Founder"

>
>I have NEVER called him that. Please find me any post where I used that term.
>Seems you are confusing me with David Little--very
>flattering :-) but very inaccurate.
>
>>mentions this early on in one of his books on the subject.

>
>Yep.
>He also carefully explains points related to hygiene and contagion.
>He also counsels strongly against getting our knickers in a twist
>over elaborate theories. (Other than homeopathy, that is. :-D )
>
>>If practitioners of homeopathy hold fundamental and deeply mistaken
>>views on the nature of disease, how can that not affect their
>>prescribing and case management?

>
>To treat homeopathically, why might it matter to us whether HIV
>causes AIDS? (Hint, it doesn't.)
>
>And what are the other points... Mostly a lot of technical stuff,
>but the other relevant debate was whether or not AIDS is
>contagious. Sheri has said that it's not. Any homeopath who tells
>a patient they don't need to be concerned about contagion with AIDS
>(and Sheri has also stated that *no* disease is contagious) is just
>begging to be thrown into jail, and IMO quite rightly so.
>
>>
>>If I were to try to heal a disease, I would want to attack the problem
>>at its roots. So, for me anyway, discussion of the nature of disease is
>>valuable.

>
>Yes, yes! Please let's go back to a discussion about the nature of disease.
>Please let's stop this discussion about the causes and allopathic
>treatment of AIDS.
>Whew, at least we agree on something.
>:-)
>Shannon
>>
>>Richard Knapp
>>EAS - Data Warehouse Group
>>University of Missouri
>>615 Locust Street #300
>>Columbia, MO 65201
>>573-882-8856
>>knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
>>[mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon
>>Nelson
>>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:56 AM
>>To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
>>Subject: Re: [H] 12N Sept 11 Net/radio - Janine Roberts Press Conference
>>&copies of Gallo documents
>>
>>This is getting more and more off-topic.
>>What does any of it have to do with homeopathy?
>>
>>
>>On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>>
>>>Here are some of those documents I mentioned on Gary Null's site
>>>
>>>"Ms. Roberts that reveals Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National
>>>Cancer Institute, intentionally distorted his laboratory's research
>>>findings to make claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it

>>
>>>is a cause of AIDS."
>>>
>>><http://www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1>http://
>>>www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1
>>>
>>>Welcome to Gary Null's A.I.D.S. Information Page
>>>
>>>Following is a collection of Articles, Videos, and Documentary
>>>Trailers by Gary Null, Ph.D. on the subject of A.I.D.S.
>>>This page will be continually updated with new materials as they
>>>become available.
>>>
>>>
>>>Exclusive Press Conference Interview with Janine Roberts
>>>
>>>Gary will be hosting an exclusive press conference and interview with

>>
>>>British investigative journalist Janine Roberts on Thursday, September

>>
>>>11, 2008 at Noon (EST). The broadcast will present for the first time

>>
>>>documentation and correspondence gathered by Ms. Roberts that reveals

>>
>>>Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National Cancer Institute,
>>>intentionally distorted his laboratory's research findings to make
>>>claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it is a cause of
>>>AIDS.
>>>
>>>Janine Roberts is an award winning British medical and cultural
>>>journalist and author who has spent many years delving into the
>>>medical research, science and politics of vaccines and dangerous
>>>viruses, including AIDS and polio. She is the author of the recent
>>>book Fear of the Invisible: How Scared Should We Be of Viruses and
>>>Vaccines, HIV and AIDS? For more information, visit Janine's website
>>><http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com
>>>
>>>Is an award winning British medical and cultural journalist, author,
>>>environmental activist and film maker who has done programs for BBC,
>>>ABC in Australia and PBS. Her most recent work has focused on an in
>>>depth investigation into the politics behind dangerous viruses,
>>>including AIDS and vaccines.
>>>
>>>The broadcast can be heard in its entirety on the Progressive Radio
>>>Network http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com New York City
>>>metropolitan listeners can tune into WNYE 91.5 FM for part of the
>>>broadcast following the station's 911 memorial event.
>>>
>>>Documents
>>>
>>>Exhibit One: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocA.pdf>Dr.

>>
>>>Gallo letter stating HIV (then called HTLV) is "extremely rare" in
>>>AIDS patients. Composed one day prior to his submitting his most
>>>important paper asserting HIV causes AIDS.
>>>
>>>Exhibit Two:
>>><http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocB.pdf>Letter from Dr.
>>>Gonda, Head of Electron Microscopy at the NIH reporting the images Dr.

>>
>>>Gallo wanted were only cellular rubbish.
>>>
>>>Exhibit Three:
>>><http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocC.pdf>Typed draft
>>>document written by lead author and scientist Dr. Popovic for
>>>submission to Science magazine with Dr. Gallo's handwritten edits and

>>
>>>comments.
>>>
>>>Exhibit Four: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocD.pdf>The

>>
>>>1993 report by the Office of Research Integrity, US Department of
>>>Health, indicting Dr. Gallo for medical fraud.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
>>>http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm &
>>>http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
>>>ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood
>>>Diseases - next classes start in September
>>>
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Old 11th September 2008, 05:36 PM
Knapp, Richard
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Shannon,

I was using the word (you) as a plural. And, never fear dear girl, I
would not in a million years, confuse you with David Little.

Richard Knapp
EAS - Data Warehouse Group
University of Missouri
615 Locust Street #300
Columbia, MO 65201
573-882-8856
knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu


-----Original Message-----
From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
[mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon
Nelson
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:20 AM
To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
Subject: Re: [H] 12N Sept 11 Net/radio - Janine Roberts Press
Conference&copies of Gallo documents

Richard, please get your glasses on straight.

On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:

> Shannon,
>
> I think homeopathy is about curing disease. I believe the man you

call
> "The Founder"


I have NEVER called him that. Please find me any post where I used
that term.
Seems you are confusing me with David Little--very flattering :-) but
very inaccurate.

> mentions this early on in one of his books on the subject.


Yep.
He also carefully explains points related to hygiene and contagion.
He also counsels strongly against getting our knickers in a twist over
elaborate theories. (Other than homeopathy, that is. :-D )

> If practitioners of homeopathy hold fundamental and deeply mistaken
> views on the nature of disease, how can that not affect their
> prescribing and case management?


To treat homeopathically, why might it matter to us whether HIV causes
AIDS? (Hint, it doesn't.)

And what are the other points... Mostly a lot of technical stuff, but
the other relevant debate was whether or not AIDS is contagious. Sheri
has said that it's not. Any homeopath who tells a patient they don't
need to be concerned about contagion with AIDS (and Sheri has also
stated that *no* disease is contagious) is just begging to be thrown
into jail, and IMO quite rightly so.

>
> If I were to try to heal a disease, I would want to attack the problem
> at its roots. So, for me anyway, discussion of the nature of disease
> is
> valuable.


Yes, yes! Please let's go back to a discussion about the nature of
disease.
Please let's stop this discussion about the causes and allopathic
treatment of AIDS.
Whew, at least we agree on something.
:-)
Shannon
>
> Richard Knapp
> EAS - Data Warehouse Group
> University of Missouri
> 615 Locust Street #300
> Columbia, MO 65201
> 573-882-8856
> knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert &

Shannon
> Nelson
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:56 AM
> To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> Subject: Re: [H] 12N Sept 11 Net/radio - Janine Roberts Press
> Conference
> &copies of Gallo documents
>
> This is getting more and more off-topic.
> What does any of it have to do with homeopathy?
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>
>> Here are some of those documents I mentioned on Gary Null's site
>>
>> "Ms. Roberts that reveals Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National
>> Cancer Institute, intentionally distorted his laboratory's research
>> findings to make claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims

it
>
>> is a cause of AIDS."
>>
>> <http://www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1>http://
>> www.garynull.com/aidsinfopage.php?vid=1
>>
>> Welcome to Gary Null's A.I.D.S. Information Page
>>
>> Following is a collection of Articles, Videos, and Documentary
>> Trailers by Gary Null, Ph.D. on the subject of A.I.D.S.
>> This page will be continually updated with new materials as they
>> become available.
>>
>>
>> Exclusive Press Conference Interview with Janine Roberts
>>
>> Gary will be hosting an exclusive press conference and interview with

>
>> British investigative journalist Janine Roberts on Thursday,

September
>
>> 11, 2008 at Noon (EST). The broadcast will present for the first time

>
>> documentation and correspondence gathered by Ms. Roberts that reveals

>
>> Dr. Robert Gallo, then with the National Cancer Institute,
>> intentionally distorted his laboratory's research findings to make
>> claims that he discovered the HIV virus and claims it is a cause of
>> AIDS.
>>
>> Janine Roberts is an award winning British medical and cultural
>> journalist and author who has spent many years delving into the
>> medical research, science and politics of vaccines and dangerous
>> viruses, including AIDS and polio. She is the author of the recent
>> book Fear of the Invisible: How Scared Should We Be of Viruses and
>> Vaccines, HIV and AIDS? For more information, visit Janine's website
>> <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com
>>
>> Is an award winning British medical and cultural journalist, author,
>> environmental activist and film maker who has done programs for BBC,
>> ABC in Australia and PBS. Her most recent work has focused on an in
>> depth investigation into the politics behind dangerous viruses,
>> including AIDS and vaccines.
>>
>> The broadcast can be heard in its entirety on the Progressive Radio
>> Network http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com New York City
>> metropolitan listeners can tune into WNYE 91.5 FM for part of the
>> broadcast following the station's 911 memorial event.
>>
>> Documents
>>
>> Exhibit One: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocA.pdf>Dr.

>
>> Gallo letter stating HIV (then called HTLV) is "extremely rare" in
>> AIDS patients. Composed one day prior to his submitting his most
>> important paper asserting HIV causes AIDS.
>>
>> Exhibit Two:
>> <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocB.pdf>Letter from Dr.
>> Gonda, Head of Electron Microscopy at the NIH reporting the images

Dr.
>
>> Gallo wanted were only cellular rubbish.
>>
>> Exhibit Three:
>> <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocC.pdf>Typed draft
>> document written by lead author and scientist Dr. Popovic for
>> submission to Science magazine with Dr. Gallo's handwritten edits and

>
>> comments.
>>
>> Exhibit Four: <http://www.garynull.com/articles/aids/AidsDocD.pdf>The

>
>> 1993 report by the Office of Research Integrity, US Department of
>> Health, indicting Dr. Gallo for medical fraud.
>>
>>
>> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm &
>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
>> ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood
>> Diseases - next classes start in September
>>
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Old 11th September 2008, 07:36 PM
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;-) Whew!
Oh, you meant from the scholarship perspective. :-)
(But even using plural doesn't work, because I've never heard anyone
but David say it that way.)


On Sep 11, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Knapp, Richard wrote:

> Shannon,
>
> I was using the word (you) as a plural. And, never fear dear girl, I
> would not in a million years, confuse you with David Little.
>
> Richard Knapp
> EAS - Data Warehouse Group
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon
> Nelson
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:20 AM
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> Conference&copies of Gallo documents
>
> Richard, please get your glasses on straight.
>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:
>
>> Shannon,
>>
>> I think homeopathy is about curing disease. I believe the man you

> call
>> "The Founder"

>
> I have NEVER called him that. Please find me any post where I used
> that term.
> Seems you are confusing me with David Little--very flattering :-) but
> very inaccurate.


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