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Old 18th August 2008, 08:12 PM
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I do not have the books you tell me to look them up in and what repertory i have is simply beyond my comprehension

I am not a trained homeopath
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Dear, it's just a gigantic index. You read things in that backward manner Yoda speaks in: Patience, great, I think you need. There's no other way. You have Lachesis symptoms. You have Crotalus symptoms. You have symptoms of hundreds of drugs, in fact. There's no other way. Sensations as if are very important. Look them up.

Read and reread post #7, for I'll edit it as I penetrate your case. First, before I delete the irrelevant subrubrics under the headache entries, tell me if any of them are relevant. The language of the patient is paramount, and the way you phrased things could be very important and is why we insist upon verbatim case notes since the provers (or, in the case of clinical verifications, patients) put things in unique ways we often find stated exactly the same way. But you can see from the list I've provided that some details might be missing or other ways of saying what you did might be relevant. Tell if they are or aren't. You said it was like a bowl was pressing down on your head. Imagine the many ways that could be said and you're in our world. This isn't easy, but it all comes together when you find the one drug that's most similar in its pathogenic powers because it's simply unambiguous. Repertorization is a first step after a full case is taken, but I'm having to side-step case taking and work with what you've given me because it's too tedious in this format. What you look like is important. What you sound like is important. How you walk and stand is important. How you move and the expressions you exhibit during consultation are important. For instance, you haven't told me you're irritable and impatient, but I suspect you are. There are hundreds and even thousands of things like that important in a full case, so there's no way like this. Likewise, you told me a pivotal symptom in private that's certainly uncommon. How many others are there? I doubt you'll tell me others if you assume I should be able to spot your medicine from what you've posted here. High-potency pseudo homeopaths will readily prescribe on the basis of what you've said here, but will it be unambiguous? No, none of their cases are unambiguous. You have to repertorize the symptoms to find the drugs that have produced those symptoms, and then you cross-reference them (repertorize them) to reduce the list of drugs that run through them. It takes lots of time just to do that, and then you have to search the materia medica. It takes lots more time to do that, but there's no other way with such a gigantic symptom database. Hahnemann used to be able to do it with what he knew, but he only knew 93 drugs with a minor fraction of data about the medicines. Look them up, dear.

Ultimately, however, this will go no where without help from people who have the other books needed here, especially the reliable materia medica to check symptoms after repertorization. The three foremost of those are Hering's GUIDING SYMPTOMS and Hahnemann's MATERIA MEDICA PURA and THE CHRONIC DISEASES. You should have access to those in the public and academic libraries of London.

You could, however, much more easily take your case as presented to the guys I've sent you to in Germany and Switzerland, and you wouldn't have to bother about it. I think you should since it will be a long time before I replace my books. Besides, I already have at least two dozen questions.

As for it being attributable to aluminum poisoning, that's not clear, but you have convinced me you have great sensitivity to aluminum. I've never encountered that, but I suspect my colleagues have.
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"you have convinced me you have great sensitivity to Aluminium "

I have never encountered that

At last I have convinced you that Aluminium is my problem

However I cant go on a wild goose chase to Germany or Switzerland or anywhere else hoping the ones you recomend have encounterted it

Considering how many people i have helped back to health simply through recognising some of the same symptoms in them as i experienced when i was so ill i am stunned that as a Homeopath you have not encountered it

There must be so many people out there who are being slowly and insidiously drip by drip being poisoned by the use of Aluminium pans or the use of Alum in water treatment systems ..........sadly many of them have probably already gone past thinking about Homeopathy and help and into Cancer or Alzheimers

When anyone grumbles to me about a myriad of symptoms that their doctors have no clue about i always ask "what pans are you cooking in "

The 2 books by H Tomlinson which are available on the web are an excellent insight into the problems
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Dear Myankle (whatever yourname is)posted:"I am not a trained homeopath".................................."what do i know about Homeopathy !"................................................ ........................

So even if you had all the books needed you could not prescribe yourself a remedy.

Posting rants for days on end about yourself does not bring you any closer to health
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"poisoned by Aluminium 23 yrs ago............................................... ............"


,I am sorry you are frustrated with the results of your complex symptoms but 'self prescribing' via a discussion forum is the worst thing you can do for your journey to health.

Classical Homeopaths have years of education/clinical practice to back up their findings.It takes them hours to do a questioneer for casetaking and hours to find the well indicated remedy for you. Reading a few books does not solve complex analysis without well a developed casetaking by a trained classical homeopath,there are no shortcuts.
These type of forums are OK for verry simple ACUTE cases,but not for complex.chronic cases like your.
Myself and albert have given you suggestions regards recomendations via PM and or here at this forum. Its time to make a move and seek counsil,As I told you one of the best in the world is located in the UK where you are,please make an appt.

Let us know how it goes...........................................
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Gina

I am indeed still trying desperately trying to make an appointment with Dr Bannerjea

I am very well aware that it takes years of study etc to become a homeopath precisely why i could not begin to look at the books Albert keeps suggesting and certainly would not self medicate on any result such research produced

Equally i cant just go off to Switzerland or Germany etc on a wild goose chase
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"you have convinced me you have great sensitivity to Aluminium "

I have never encountered that

At last I have convinced you that Aluminium is my problem

However I cant go on a wild goose chase to Germany or Switzerland or anywhere else hoping the ones you recomend have encounterted it

Considering how many people i have helped back to health simply through recognising some of the same symptoms in them as i experienced when i was so ill i am stunned that as a Homeopath you have not encountered it
I didn't say that Aluminum is your problem. Your problem is that your vital force (your etheric pattern) is no longer integral. Billions of people have been exposed to aluminum poisoning and not reacted as you. Aluminum has nothing to do with it. You didn't understand anything I said. Dr. Banerjea is not a Hahnemannian. I sent you to some. It's your choice.
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from the organon;
§ 18 Sixth Edition
From this indubitable truth, that besides the totality of the symptoms with consideration of the accompanying modalities (§5) nothing can by any means be discovered in disease wherewith they could express their need of aid, it follows undeniably that the sum of all the symptoms and conditions in each individual case of disease must be the sole indication, the sole guide to direct us in the choice of a remedy.
So he is saying that nothing except the totality of symptoms can be discovered in disease, nothing can be discovered in our body by means of which it signals the need for aid. I have earlier said that today we can discover much more through our extended sensory tools (diagnostic tools). But his statement was true for his time. But to a certain extent the statement still holds true. After all, the signs and symptoms are still usually the first reason for contacting a physician.

The diagnostic tolls only enhance our understanding of the disease process. They cannot reduce the value of the signs and symptoms.


He again says that the sum total of all the alteration from health in a sick individual, should be our sole guide for selecting a remedy.


So if we summarize these three aphorisms, we can say:
Disease is caused by the dynamic derangement of the vital force and it can be removed only by the dynamic influence of our remedies. The disease process makes itself known through the externally manifested signs and symptoms. The physician has to use these signs and symptoms to select the suitable remedy. The removal of the totality of signs and symptoms means that the alteration in the vital force is corrected and that the health is restored.

Best of luck.............................................. ..........
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Albert

What you have given me is a list of names many of which you believe are expired .

I have no means of contacting the few that remain and no clue exactly where they are

I have you telling me i need a true Hahnemanian
and Gina telling me to see Dr Bannerjea

Irrespective of Homeopathis beliefs and the fact that i have no time for Allopaths

If Aluminium is so benign why is there such a mounting toll of people with Alzheimers which is in direct proportion to the explosion in the use of Aluminium
Equally if you start to look at the devastation caused by the Camelford Incident in which huge numbers of animals also died it puts a very different slant on things
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Myankle,

Aluminium is so widespread as a substance in the nature - all clays contain various compounds of it, so you are very likely to find it in any porcelain, china or any ceramics in quite large amounts. People have been using these for ages and if it really were that bad - I even do not find the right words to explain.

THe thing with something being good or bad to someone is dependent on the ability of this person to counter the adverse influences from the outside. When told something unpleasant like "I don't like you" one person will shrug his shoulders and just walk away forgetting the episode, while the other one will go and kill himself - it shows that different people have different sensitivity to the same stimulus.

I hope Albert has agreed that you do indeed have very much increased sensitivity to Aluminium, but eliminating it from your environment is simply not possible - it's under your feet if you live in the countryside, and doing it even to some extent is very limiting to yourself, you cannot lead a normal life -can you? So what you need to do is to try to alter your sensitivity to Aluminium by improving your general resistance to all adverse factors, which is what homeopathy does, and this is done by finding a remedy peculiar to yourself, taking into account the presence of the oversensitivity to Aluminium, of course, but it's not the only symptom that you have - for a homeopath.

Materia Medica, where description of remedy pictures are listed, is full of indications such as, for example, "remedy Opium is good in cases of chronic lead poisoning" etc. So it's not necessarily alumina or alum met, that you would have as a remedy, it can be something quite different. And finding good symptoms, characteristic symptoms of a person requires looking at someone objectively, which very few very wise people can reliably do when it comes to evaluating oneself, so I think I'd give a try to the closest homeopath if I were you, if you feel like you cannot find all those people in other countries - but keep in mind that good homeopaths are very rare, and maybe in the long run getting rid of your sensitivity will be cheaper than "doing the goose chase" - just a word of advice!
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Albert

What you have given me is a list of names many of which you believe are expired .

I have no means of contacting the few that remain and no clue exactly where they are

I have you telling me i need a true Hahnemanian
and Gina telling me to see Dr Bannerjea

Irrespective of Homeopathis beliefs and the fact that i have no time for Allopaths

If Aluminium is so benign why is there such a mounting toll of people with Alzheimers which is in direct proportion to the explosion in the use of Aluminium
Equally if you start to look at the devastation caused by the Camelford Incident in which huge numbers of animals also died it puts a very different slant on things
Seven of the 25 have died, but that's still a lot remaining. The list with the actual addresses is on another hard drive, so you'll have to wait until I can access it. I wasn't going to bother after you called it a wild-goose chase, but I will get around to it.

See whoever you wish.

Neither did I say that aluminum was benign. Far from it, in fact. We should not be exposed to any poisons, let alone over 200,000 from totally unprincipled monsters in industrial chemistry, one of the parents of modern medicine. However, causes simply have nothing to do with the choice of the remedy. You match symptoms. What do you want us to do with information about 80 gazillion substances being statistically linked to seventy-twelve gazillion diseases? It makes no difference what the cause was except to prevent diseases, but poisonings are quite different from diseases. You apparently have an aluminum sensitivity (an allergy in allopathic terms), so it plays a roll in the choice of the medicine assuming that we've gathered such information, but what made you react that way? Who cares! Such questions are irrelevant. Billions of people have been poisoned by aluminum. I've never heard of such an extreme reaction to aluminum, but I'm sure someone has.

See whoever you wish.
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