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Old 31st July 2008, 10:06 PM
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I was reading the Questionaire and noticed the "Childhood illnesses more than once " bit

One of my Grandaughters has had Chickenpox 3 times
what does this signify in Homeopathy ?
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A question: Were these kids vaccinated May I ask?
Also may add that chickenpox is in the same viral family as shingles and Herpes.(herpes varicella zoster virus)

Some links on the toxic adverse effects of vaccines:
National Vaccine Information Center
ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine Reactions
Vaccination Liberation Home Page
VIAL - Vacinfo.Org - Home Page

No vaccine is a safe vaccine-

When homeopaths study miasmatic imprints the cause/onset factors- vaccines make a quantum jump in forcing the sycotic miasm dominance,jumps all the barriers. Causing an extreme toxic load to the system and immune.
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Old 1st August 2008, 12:53 AM
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I have just been thinking about this as well, because my daughter has had one-sided mumps recently, and I heard that doctors say that there is a possibility that people who have had it only on one side might contract it again. And I actually know a person who has had mumps 3 times, at least 2 times in her adult life, and the last episode resulted in impaired hearing.

My biochemist father says that such people have weak immune system and are unable to create the usual memory cells needed for life-long protection in one go, so they keep repeating the infection. But I was also interested what experience a homeopath might have with such people, or maybe there is a mention of this in some texts?
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She is one of twins (not identical) and yes she received the usual vaccinations but later than the doctors wanted because i believe these triple vaccines are an assault on an immature immune system ...........the other twin has not had all the vaccinations because she had Kawasakis Disease at age 2 although now age 13 she is heavily into playing Ladies Football

Its becoming very difficult to refuse the vaccination regime in the UK just as in the USA thay wont admit children to school unless they have been vaccinated

Its a difficult and emotive subject though because my best friend age 7 at sunday school died from Polio in just 3 days .She was fine one Sunday but by the next Sunday she had died

I had Whooping Cough before they could vaccinate me and was very very ill with it
I had Influenzal Meningitis age 5 and nearly died
The innoculation which caused me trouble (weeping mess) was BCG one at age 13

Maybe that is significant of TB miasm ?
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Its becoming very difficult to refuse the vaccination regime in the UK just as in the USA thay wont admit children to school unless they have been vaccinated

There Is NO mandatory Vaccines! There are OPT out forms you can fill out so the child can enter school,parents just dont know about these forms.
Ask any naturopath/homeopath/accupunturist/holistic healer/herbalist.............................they can guide you.
(also mentioned in my links)

Please read All the links I posted(there is loads more when you are finished)
,THis will empower you to make safe choices regards vaccines in the future.

What a conventional pediatrician will tell you is only 'one' side of the vaccine story,not the ENTIRE horriffic story."Knowledge is power".....................dont forget!
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my best friend age 7 at sunday school died from Polio in just 3 days .She was fine one Sunday but by the next Sunday she had died


most often its the Polio vaccine itself that causes extreme adverse effects (like death or crippling symp)
more on this: from Homeopath and RN Sherri Nakken
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccines.htm


shows vaccines did not reduce diseases;
Vaccination Liberation Home Page
Vaccination Debate
Parents Requesting Open Vaccine Education (PROVE)
Vaccine website
GRAPHICAL EVIDENCE SHOWS VACCINES DIDN'T SAVE US

The above graphs, based on the official death numbers as recorded in the Official Year Books of the Commonwealth of Australia, are taken from Greg Beattie's excellent book "Vaccination A Parent's Dilemma" and represent the decline in death rates from infectious disease in Australia. They clearly show that vaccines had nothing to do with the decline in death rates. (Note: Graphical evidence on the decline in death rates from infectious disease for USA, England, New Zealand and many other countries shows the exact same scenario as above)
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I was reading the Questionaire and noticed the "Childhood illnesses more than once " bit

One of my Grandaughters has had Chickenpox 3 times
what does this signify in Homeopathy ?
There's a lot of illiteracy and carelessness in Indian homeopathy, which is the parent of this site, and I'm not going to look for the question since it would take me time that you should have spent asking the question, but it's probably a misunderstanding or misrepresentation since both are rampant today.

It's not possible for someone to have chickenpox three times, or any other childhood illness, because the immune system doesn't work that way. Somebody tell me I'm wrong and explain it. This should be interesting.

The cow jumped over the Moon last night. My kitty cat barked at the meowing dog a few minutes ago. I saw a frisbee growl at the light post it made friends with. My left ear just jumped to the right side, and it scared me. A pink elephant just flew past my window. George W. Bush is not actually Jethro Bodine; it just seems that way. Isn't this fun?
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Dear Albert,

but I know personally this woman who has had mumps - infectious parotitis - 3 times, this is a fact, how would you explain this then?

Elena
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INdeed, there is a lot of emotions involved in the issue of vaccinations, but after all I've read on the subject I somehow start thinking that it's all wasted emotion, because all the issues are based on the belief that vaccines do indeed protect against the diseases that they were designed against. However, I personally think that the only way to know if this is true is to take a group of vaccinated people and people who had placebo injected as a vaccine and then intentionally expose all to the infectious agent in question, and then count how many of them contracted the disease in each group. If the vaccinated group gets significantly less cases, then we may say something, otherwise it might turn out that because of susceptibility issues the people would not have contracted the disease anyway - my daughter was exposed to mumps 4 times already, and she did not get it until the last 5th time - but that was after constitutional treatment, which changes one's susceptibility, so this time she was susceptible, and previously - not. She was not vaccinated against it.

I agree that making such an experiment is not possible on ethical grounds, but there was a study about BCG, regarding which there was a trial in India, although the people were not intentionally exposed to TB but the natural incidence was observed. Here's the quote:

"TB

During the 1960s, the WHO organised a field study in India in order to establish the efficacy of the TB vaccine. Two groups took part in this study, each group comprising 375,000 people in the province of Madras. One group was vaccinated against TB; the other group was not vaccinated. After 7 years, in 1971, this field study was stopped, for ethical reasons. The conclusion of the study was: the efficacy of the TB vaccine is 0%. Even though it is impossible to have any worse efficacy (!), it took until March 1998 before vaccination was stopped in Germany, October 1998 in Switzerland and March 2000 in Austria. Why did this news take more than 27 years to reach Europe?

I can only explain it this way: The WHO sent someone from Madras in 1971 on a walk to spread the good news of the inefficacy of this vaccine all over the world. As Europe is very far away, the poor man required much time. This walker, by the way, has not reached France yet, the vaccine is still mandated for all new born babies.

The German speaking countries only stopped to vaccinate their own children. Foreign children are still vaccinated. Presumably this vaccine only works effectively with certain passport colours!"

Addition to this:
"THe author above bases her text on the following book by a German doctor

Dr. Buchwald. MD "The Decline of Tuberculosis despite "protective" Vaccination" ISBN 3-88721-175-8

"Dr. Buchwald also describes the largest vaccine trial ever carried out: from 1968-1971 the World Health Organisation carried out a large field trial to test the BCG-vaccine. It was a test model to eradicate tuberculosis on this planet (while reaping a few companies multi-billion dollar profits). In one area comprising 309 villages about 364,000 people were vaccinated against TB while another area of roughly the same size was left unvaccinated. The results however caused great consternation among vaccination experts: in the vaccinated area there were more cases of TB than in unvaccinated area. In Germany it took the STIKO (Permanent Vaccination Commission) 27 years to acknowledge the field trial and to remove the BCG-vaccine from the list of "recommended" vaccines.

In Germany deaths from tuberculosis declined from 117,596 deaths in 1901 to 630 in 1999. The findings of the field trial show that the decline cannot have been the result of vaccination. What was the real cause of the decline? The answer to this question is presented by Dr. Buchwald in this book."

I found the link to the whole article, so please have a look, but I would still like to know how common repeated childhood illnesses are - obviously not?

Does systematic Vaccination give health to people

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I can assure you the child did indeed come out in chickenpox on 3 separate occasions

With 6 grandchildren and 2 children of my own never mind the allopathic doctors ( who yes i have little time for) chickenpox is perfectly easy for all to see and to diagnose without any doubt

Its also very easy for a Homeopath to criticise patientsfor not going to them every 5 mins theres a problem

If we all had free Homeopathic GPS great but we dont and the money to pay a Homeopath simply does not grow on trees
Hence why we often struggle on as best we can
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