Of late we are getting lots of new provings from diffrent sides, and different varities.
How far these provings are reliable? And up to what extent can we depend on it for prescribing? are they on the same line as advised in Organon?

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Dear Frank,
You seem like a sensible chap, so I will ask you....

How does one go about finding WHICH provings are worthwile?? Stupid question? Hope not...I'm studying, so I have got to start with my questions, somewhere ...much obliged if you can answer...thanks, Lisa

Lisa has raised a very intresting question about the reliability of the provings. How to find out which provings are based on the guidelines of Organon?
I am of the opinion that we should have an International watchdog body which should have an authority to lay down strict rules and regulations for provings.
All the new provings weather done individually or by a forum, should be forwarded to this form for approval. Only after certified by this forum it can be published in any journal.
The journals which carry new provings should also insist that it should be certified by this forum.
Unless we move in this kind directions and do'nt empower an International form with this kind of powers, chaotic scene will prevail in Homoeopathy 10 years from now.
Difference of provings will be confusing.

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How to tell? Firstly Lisa read your Organon as full instructions are there. If you have some cash 'The Dynamics and Methodology of Homeopathic Provings' by Jeremy Sherr is a must. There is excellent material in there, don't let the title put you off.
Now to the idea of an International body. In principle I think this is a very good idea. In practice there is no agreement on a pharmacopeia for the medicines we already have so I wonder if such collaboration is possible. I am also a little suspicious of anything which might fragment homeopathy, even for good reasons. I would ask instead that the methodology of the proving is made clear so that we can draw our own conclusions as to the usefulness of the information. Have a look at the Dynamis website at the proving lists and post again?

The recent provings are a very mixed bag. Some are thorough Hahnemannian provings and in my opinion reliable e.g Hydrogen and Scorpion. Some others are not conducted for long enough or are not sufficently supervised. The meditative provings I personally have no time for. I always look for good supervision in a proving.

Thanks Dr Deepak - Interesting thought, but I agree with Frank. Also, I might add that when Beauracracy gets involved....integrity seems to dwindle...that is probably the biggest risk...and as Frank said, there would be more fragmentation than currently exists. Untested waters - yes...do I want to go there? Probably not....as I would want to judge for myself, based on my understanding of the Organon, if the provings were carried out methodically...to the letter (I tend to be pedantic ).

Thanks Frank - Yes, I am studying this is in the Organon....and will refer to it in future - you basically answered my question - there is not a 'body' that governs this...and perhaps it is not the path to take in light of what you said! Thanks also for the recommendation of the book. I will spare my pennies to buy it (or should I say pounds )...I'll let you know what I think when I've read it!

Lisa
Ps -where can I order the book? Any suggestions? Thanks...L

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big brothers nearly killed hoemopathy once before, and its already too many big brothers as it is now, promoting their wuews, and performing a dictator like role, and its as always, they who have the smallest controll over their own, want to controll others.
Advice not to cry for more big brothers.

Hi Lisa!
There's an excellent book company called ABC (stands for Awesome Book Company) which has a website with its book list. Can be found at www.abcbookco.com. Based in London, it's run by a recently qualified homoeopath. Their mission is to bring fellow homoeopaths and students the lowest prices of books with the best service available. Give it a go and see what you think.

Tine, I'm interested in this new source of books, the site of which you cite. Couldn't get any joy from clicking on the address though.
I usually use Minerva in London, is the one you recommend as comprehensive, and cheaper?
Dynamics and methodology didn't really float my boat but is essential reading for anyone doing a proving. Sherr is Mr Proving. He has clarity of thought.

Hi Anna,
I couldn't get through to their site either today but it was OK a couple of days ago - hmm. Anyway, you can either e-mail them at awesome.books1@virgin.net or call them on 020 8346 5766 from 9.00am - 8.00pm 7 days. Samantha Phillips is the person who runs it. She's very helpful and can send you a brochure which contains their booklist. It is quite extensive and is increasing in size all the time. They operate a postal service as they don't have shop premises. They are keenly competitive pricewise and are keen to know if you are able to find prices lower elsewhere.
Hope you find this helpful.