Help - need guidance. My son 22 years of age is having bad problems with sleeplessness. I think I'm missing something. I haven't prescribed anything. Cara Prof. repertorised, Sulph, Lyc, Lach, Ph-ac, Nat-m.
Here we go: Very handsome tall 6'4" dark haired man. He walks in a room and everyone
looks his way. Very funny (life of the party), but also very moody especially in the morning. Doesn't realize how stricking he is.

Can't fall asleep to save his life. Once asleep OK, mind to busy. As child suffered from croup, tonsillitis, ADD, eczema, bed wetting until 16 (now periodically), problems
learning, abusive with family. The lack of sleep is deterating his vital force. He now
mumbles when he talks. Can't even understand what he is saying. Has a great job for a
22 year old, but feels very inadequate - due to preconditioned learning difficulties as
child. Afraid he will fail at the job.

Perspiration at night, worse if room is warm. Likes ice-cold room to sleep in. Doesn't like
the sun and heat. Mental better with coffee, likes highly seasoned food, but causes
burning rectum. Getting gray hair at temples. Compulsive with exercise (must weight train everyday or feels bad), hates having body fat. Can't fall in love, afraid of love from past hurt. Loves to run his fingers through hair (started as a child) Misses his family and home.
Rare and peculiar - has a lot going for him and should be really excited about life, but doom and gloom.




[This message has been edited by onemo (edited 24 March 2000).]

Start with sulphur,it will clear out a bit, your anamnesis, is not good, its not as detailed as it should be, gives no direction, as for the buring of rectum, is this only after eating spices, or is it after stool, or is it constant, or what?

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Homeopat MNNH Geir E.T. Marcussen
email: getm@eunet.no
http://www.homeopati.no

Dear onemo,
Looking closely at your case, it sounds like a Phos, but since Nux-v is pretty close behind, I would need more from you.

The good old etiology, the Since when question, since when is your son in this state, what brought this on in your opinion?

What fears (if any) did he have as a child? Does he have now?

When is his energy the lowest during a day? when is it the highest?

Tell us about his thirst, what he likes to drink and the temperature he likes to drink at? Does he sip or gulps down?

About his appetite, how is it? What is the temperature he likes his food at? slow eater, fast eater, needs breaks after few bites?
Any food aversions, desires?
Any food allergies?

Position in sleep? Dreams, remembered or not, nightmares, recurrent dreams?

Also, I almost forgot, is he an only child, if not what is his rank in the family? How is he with his siblings?

This should do it. Thanks for answering.

Marie

Thank you for responding -
The burning of the rectum is after spicy food, after stool. Loves spicy, but can't stand the pain after stool.

lst born - young parents. Healthy at birth, contacted staph and bad yellow jaundice several days after birth. Was in intensive care for 10 days. Doctors were afraid of brain damage. Had to stop breast feeding, continued when he was better at two weeks.
Bad colic starting at one-month, continued until 3 1/2 months old. Siblings born at 8 years of age. Very jealous of brother, then sister - loved them to death, but picked on them terribly. Physically hurtful. Very disruptive force in the family - always. But everyone adores him - needed a lot of attention, seemed to instigate negative attention. Now that he is out of the home, life is so much more peaceful at home. Out with his friends, very entertaining, truly the life of the party. Tall tells..exaggerates. As child would tell incredible stories, people believed him. Now he just exaggerates. Feels remorseful now because of how he treated everyone at home - lots of anger. Not a very good relationship with father. Father was angry with his behavior. Parents divorsed at 14 years of age. Now they have a good relationship.

Sleep always disturbed from young age. Bed wetting a real issue for him. Bad dreams of wolves - fear of wolves, but also loves them. Panic attacks at night. Would be awake and still in such a state of fear. I would try and snap him out of the state, couldn't come out of fear and dream state. He would be awake, but still in the attack. Walls closing in.

Lowest energy in morning - bad grump. Feels pretty good around 11:00.

Likes cold drinks, milk, water, beer - however, not really thirsty. gulps in spirts. Takes a drink, stops 1/3 gone, etc.

skinny child - never ate, then at eight years went through a fat stage (when siblings born), now hates being fat, was teased pretty bad. Hyper child, ate lots of candy - now doesn't really like candy. At 16 had bad tonsillitis - staph in tonsils. Hospitalized, had tonsillectomy. Loss lots of weight. Still has sore throat.

Since he started his job (2 yrs ago) the sleep seems to be a real problem. No nightmares. Wants to get a good nights sleep for work, but can't fall asleep. Lays there for hours. Once asleep fine, but can't get up. Sleeps really sound in cold room.

The mumbled speech is bothering. Can't understand him. Worse since sleep problem.

Hope this wasn't to much information...(a little humor)

PS: sleeps on stomach - trys not to, but wakes up on stomach.



[This message has been edited by onemo (edited 24 March 2000).]

Dear Onemo,
Sorry for the delay in answering but it was a very full day today and I only got to read your post a little while ago.

I like to get the feel of the person I treat, and it's kind of hard when a case is told in the third person., so I ran your case on the Mac Repertory, did a little research and I come up with Phos.

Sulphur does come in a close second, but Sulphur is more laid back in his attitude, your son seems to be concerned about his appearance. The amelioration by coffee got me thinking also, as well as the dreams that continued after waking, this, Phos has but Sulphur dosen't. I suggest you read a few MMs and if you agree, you can decide to give it to him.

Hope it will help.
Marie

Hi.
Gone through it again,the added info, gives Arsenicum alb, also do the anorexiatendencies do that, and the keysymptome is the drinking habit of water, the desire for cold room,sleeping,use one dose ars a c200, but if he do smoke, ars will be antidoted. And smoking can be the cause to this. Phos is ruled out, sulphur was just to see if new symptomes could be lured out.

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Homeopat MNNH Geir E.T. Marcussen
email: getm@eunet.no http://www.homeopati.no


[This message has been edited by GM (edited 25 March 2000).]

Dear Gier,
Not for the sake of bickering, just for the sake of understanding... why Ars?

I'm writing down my conclusions, please tell me how you got to Ars, I have a hard time fitting all the mentals in the Ars. mold. I always respect your prescriptions, but this time I would really listen and learn as they say.


His mom says that he is the "Life of the Party" with loads of imagination. I don't see that in Ars.

Phos is aggravated by spicy food, although he craves it. Ars also has the craving but not the aggravation.

This boy has desire for cold milk, Phos has, Ars dosen't, for milk yes, not for cold milk.

He has trouble falling asleep at night, Ars wakes up after midnight, preferably between 1 and 3, but is not in the rubric difficulty falling asleep. Phos is.

Fear, failure in business or work, Phos is there but Ars isn't. Although with his anxiety, I have a hard time not seeing Ars in that rubric, I must admit.

He has little apetite, but I don't know about the anorexia part, although Ars comes out in bold capitals there, but his mom dosen't talk about anorexia, she merely points out that he hates being fat.

Where did you find the amelioration in a cold room? The only remedy that shows up in that rubric is Secale, in my Repertories at least (MacRepertory, Murphy). I agree that Ars is like Phos somewhat better and worse from cold, depending the situation.

How about his mumbling, I looked up the rubric Mind, answering, answers, unintelligible, Phos(2) is there, Ars isn't.

Although I already had a patient that had to look like the front page of a fashion magazine and was greatly ameliorated by Ars, this guy seems to fit the picture of a Phos better, don't you think, tall, striking looking, life of the party, vivid imagination, Phos does not really lie, he merely sees the events with different eyes, but boy! his imagination is there.

On the surface, Phos and Ars are similar. So, dear Gier, please do explain, I'm forever wanting to learn, and although my Homeopathic student years are far behind, I'm always open to learn more, it's the only way to get better at it! Don't you agree!

Thanks in advance,
Marie

Marie J. & GM -

I studied and studied and became more confused. Then finally last night settled on Lyc. Boerick; Debility in morning; hair becomes permaturely grey; worse from heat or warm room; better on getting cold; and also because I have been under the care of a well know homeopath MD that continually amazes me with his insight and successful treatments of my family. I would take my son to him if his schedule allowed, but I'm really concerned about the lack of sleep and felt he needed immediate attention. My homeopath put me on Lyc several years ago and it has done wonders. My understanding is that constitutional remedies sometimes run in families and his case seemed to fit Lyc.

Phos fits, but the thirst was inconsistent; my son is not thirsty. Sulphur doesn't fit because he is clean and seems to care about his appearance.

Then I read the additional post this am, and I went back to the drawing board once again. I agreed with Marie J. with her rejection of Ars based upon all discussed on her post, but I can't totally throw out GM's analysis, because my homeopath has prescribed remedies that I can't even begin to understand the relationship, but it works!!!!!

All I know - is that this 22 year old man that appeared at my home today, seemed to be on top of the world; I had to question why I was so concerned, but then I remembered, when he doesn't get any sleep; it's doom and gloom and he mumbles.

He had us laughing all day! Very entertaining. A dynamic man, but still questions himself. Maybe it's youth!

Marie J. & GM - Thank you so much for the posts and insight. I going to research Ars and Phos once again before I do anything.

Dear GM and MarrieJ.
I apreciate your discussion here a great deal. It also puzzled me yesterday, how Ars. came up here. So,going back to my MM i found that Ars. realy covers optimally a lot of symptoms in this case.
Salute to you GM, and to you MarieJ, who realy helps andestanding much more.
Good morning from puzzled shoshy.

If I can throw a bone in here....

GM - are you saying, because you see possible layering of the case, that you feel that Sulphur is indicated along with the Tub - to clear him out first - peel away a layer - and then see what is truly underneath? And, that will lead to another remedy?

That is what I got out of your final words...Thanks, Lisa