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Old 28th January 2008, 07:35 AM
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Default Impetigo is not clearing up

My daughter 11 yrs, has now had impetigo for over 10 days with spots around mouth, in eyes and on back and around groin area. She has been prescribed antibiotics and antibiotic cream. I am desperately trying avoid the antibiotic tablets but am using the cream on the spots.
I gave her Hepar Sulph 6 for the first 3 days (2 x3-4 times day), rinsed the spots with vinegar water and anti-bacterial cream. Then I increased to Hepar S 30c (3-4 times) a day for 6 days and now I believe I have given to much as the spots keep coming and are still seeping and crusting. The older ones are fading away but new ones are appearing, it is as if there is some major cleansing going on but they are sore and stinging and my daughter is quite uncomfortable with the ones in the groin.
Last night I tried 1 Ant tart 30, and out of desperation 1 Streptococcinum 1000. Was this wrong of me? And how do I proceed? More Ant tart or something else?

I believe she got it bad after having a chest infection in September which led to a serious asthma attack and hospitalization where she was treated with antibiotics, which is why I am anxios to break the circle. We do wash the spots with Echinacea in the face but they still look have a yellowish discharge and is very slow to disappear.

Can anyone help? Feeling desperate.

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Old 30th January 2008, 08:05 PM
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Dear Anette- The best advice is to take this child to a trained practicioner (classical homeopath)
This is certainly NOT a do it yourself case of Try this try that remedy, With all due respect- I understand you mean well but-Your causing more harm than good.

The antibiotics are causing the immune to breakdown even more,Antibiotics cause suppression,symptoms dissapear for a short time but reocur with violence turning this into a massive complex case for Any homeopath to untangle.

Please sent this child to a trained classical homeopath near you...............Let us know where you are and someone here will send you a Recom.
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Dear Anette,

My daughter had an outbreak once, I only used the constitutional remedy and not much of it, it cleared up in about 3 weeks.

My friend had treated a friend's child for flu, after which the impetigo broke out, and she only gave one dose of SUlphur which aggravated for several days, but then just left it alone, and it took him 2 months to clear up completely - it was quite extensive, on his buttocks and awfully looking, and while the mother who did not want to interfere quarreled with the father who urged her to go to the doctor, - it just went away, leaving everybody, especially the boy, happy.

And in your case it seems that the infection sites are changing, so the process is not stalled but moving, in which case I would say that just try to leave it alone would be the best course of action, expecially after you have given so many remedies. Impetigo is not a true acute disease, so to say, it is - as you say - a way to discharge something, so it's best not to interfere, at least, to reserve actions to the time when this stalls, if you see that there is no more change in the course of inflammation. 10 days, as experience shows, is not enough for the process, it might be rather long, but as long as it's moving it will probably clear up by itself. I know just how uncomfortable it can be, when my baby boy had a weeping eczema at the age of one, I had to deal with the acute state - he almost could not sleep and scratched it all raw and bleeding - for about 3 months, but it gradually receded - without much interference, it recurred every spring, but less and less, and now that he's almost 4 it just does not show up almost.

All you need is perseverance, so if you're really anxious to stop the vicious circle you - and your daughter - just have to "survive" this - it is possible! And maybe your daughter should stay at home while the inflammation is at its worst? If there is a possibility of an asthma attack, it surely is worth trying to let her skin discharge all it could without any hindering.

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Please sent this child to a trained classical homeopath near you...............Let us know where you are and someone here will send you a Recom.
Dear Gina, thank you for your advice. I have been to a couple of homeopaths in my area with my children and after seeing both over several visits, neither impressed me. If you can recommend anyone in the Bournemouth area I would be grateful. The impetigo though is now finally clearing up, thank God, and the sores are healing nicely.

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All you need is perseverance, so if you're really anxious to stop the vicious circle you - and your daughter - just have to "survive" this - it is possible! And maybe your daughter should stay at home while the inflammation is at its worst? If there is a possibility of an asthma attack, it surely is worth trying to let her skin discharge all it could without any hindering.

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Dear Elena,

Thank you very much for your help and support! I stopped the Hepar Sulph, and just focused on extra vitamins and minerals. I changed from Echinaforce to Golden seal and gave her Vitamin A to help fight the injection. I rinsed the sores with cyder vinegar and water solution which seemed really to help, I also found bicarbonate of soda helpful in a nightly bath, and dabbing the wounds with Plantago (apparently very good for staphylocock infections) seemed to speed up healing to. I did keep her at home again but now she is back at school as the facial sores have dried up, but still very tender and sore. I am so glad that we avoided the antibiotics and believe she will come out of this with a much stronger immune system. It will be interesting to see what happens with the asthma now.

Thanks again.

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Dear Anette,

It's good to hear that your daughter is getting better! I'm not very good at nutritional advices, but concerning the inflamed spots itself, as you may know, there is a thing called Direction of Cure, and in connection with skin symptoms it has been observed that things that clear up starting from above downwards, like, for example, the spots on the head clear up first while there may still appear other on the trunk and limbs, then the trunk gets better and finally the limbs, - so that the whole condition kind of moves downward - is usually indicative of a curative rather than suppressive response. So while this might not always be the case - depending on the condition, - if you happen to observe this "movement", than you have all reasons to hope for the best. THe asthmatic fit might have been a temporary outbreak in response to suppresive treatment, but to be sure of this you'll have to see what happens for at least one year from now. I do hope that you will not see more of this, but in case you do, it's very important to start some long-term treatment. In Chinese medicine (and language) there has always been a word meaning "constitution improvement", which would correspond to "immune system strengthening"... And asthma is a serious enough condition to fear - well, "fear" is not a good word, I think, we should not fear anything, but be able to reasonably anticipate, -worse things in the future - as the current state of constitution shows - if it will indeed show this. I personally do not have any homeopaths nearby, they are almost non-existent in Japan, but I'm taking treatment on-line from a homeopath living in the States, and all my family does, with whom I discuss everything over the phone or - when he needs to decide on a new remedy - over the internet camera, so we can actually see each other. I know of people who travel quite far to see their homeopath, because a good homeopath whom you personally find reliable is not easy to find, and people tend to change several homeopaths till they settle with someone who would truly help them. So, please, do not stop your search, and if possible - widen the scope! I myself am a student of the Devon Homeopathy School - located in Devon, of course, and so far all homeopaths that teach there seemed to me very good, and they do not all live in Devon, of course. Maybe you could contact the School - or some other good School - or the one that Gina mentioned, and they could recommend someone who is close to you or some other option?

In any case, it's good that your daughter is getting better, and I wish you all the best in your search!

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Dear Elena,

Thanks again for a comprehensive response, it is so good to hear from like-minded people and learn something new. I was vaguely aware of the direction of cure and thinking about it, that seem to be the case with Molly, except the last patch to dry up is on coccyx bone. I would dearly like to understand how decided on the constitutional remedy but maybe I need to enroll on a course for that. But it is fascinating isn't it, the way our bodies never cease to amaze us in their response to remedies or herbs or relaxation, anything to help it get into balance again.

The idea of using the web-cam to see your online-homeopath is great I think! And I will contact the Devon School thanks.

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Dear Anette,

I'm glad you have found what I wrote useful! Well, my daughter's otitis was the reason that made me enroll in the homeopathy correspondence course - she had it for 2 months coming and going and I was just tired of the A/B, not to say that I did not like the idea to use them from the start, but she did not look at all as she was going to make it on her own, and I thought that there was no homeopathy here (and I did not really know what it was at that time!), until a friend told me that there is in fact someone who prescribes homeopathy, so I went there and got an acute remedy which cleared up everything in 3 days.

These people, however, as it turned out, do not know much about hahnemannian homeopathy, the curative way to use it, that is, and although the acute remedy worked well, and even brought out itchy skin - which is clearly a very good reaction, as I understand now, - when I asked them what can be done with that itch they told me that being kind and loving towards the child is going to solve it - well, if it were so then at least half of all our ills would be non-existent by now, would not they? - so naturally I was not quite satisfied, and turned to the internet, found this very site, which was very lively 7 years ago, and someone suggested to try the Devon school for proper education, and I just found myself enrolled and studying in no time, and I still feel inspired everytime I learn something wonderful about the power of life in us, really!

Well, I do hope that you'll find what you are looking for,
and the very best wishes from here!

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