I read what mamma3 wrote and am concerned. I have a 3 month old that I had to wean from me because of his intolerence to my milk. He has been on soy formula for 6 weeks now and still spits up, but not as bad as when he was nursing. Is ther another alternative I should try with him? He seems content with soy, there is no colic and he seems happy otherwise.

Get a copy of Paul Pitchford "Healing with Whole Foods". He has a very good chapter on children's food. To make it brief, if mother's milk is not available, or for some reason cannot be accepted by the baby, the four options in order of priority are:
1. Another mother's milk (wet nurse)
2. Goat's milk, preferably from organically raised goats.
3. Highest quality milk replacement formula.
4. Unhomogenized cow's milk, preferably from organically raised cows.

In the same chapter, there's also some simple Oriental food therapies to strength milk production / digestion.

Besides, homeopathy should help this milk intolerance problem.

It's good that you are asking now. As a lactation counselor, I have read that the phytoestrogens in soy are absorbed twice as much by babies than adults and that so many estrogens can be harmful to the wee ones. Seems to have ill effects on their reproductive organs.

Your baby was probably having problems with the dairy proteins in your milk. Since your baby is only six weeks old, you could probably relactate. Even if he doesn't take it by breast, breast milk in a bottle will work! And most mothers who soley express their milk find that after a while they only have to pump 3-4 times a day. (They'll get 16 ounces at a time!)

Relactation is not an easy road to take, but can be very beneficial for the infant. You will need a double electric pump that autocycles. Medela is the best brand in my opinion. These can be rented from medical supply stores, pharmacies, hospitals.

You will have to pump every two hours in the beginning, just as if you were feeding your newborn. Watch your diet, NO dairy, maybe no soy in the beginning.

GM has mentioned that homeopathy can help with relactation on his website. You might want to contact him about the proper remedy to help you with this endevor. Good luck!

RELACTATING IS NOT AN OPTION, BECAUSE I TRIED TO ELIMINATE DAIRY,IRON,GARLIC, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BOTHER HIM AND IT DID NOT MATTER, HE WAS MISERABLE (SEE NEW TOPIC UNDER CHILDREN SECTION FROM ME.) I BELIEVE HE IS JUST NOT MILK INTOLERANT BUT ALSO LACTOSE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE SHARED CONCERNING THE PHYTOESTROGENS, AND AM LOOKING FOR ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE FORMULA. TODAY I TRIED CHAMOMILEA 30X AND HAD NOT REALIZED THE TABLETS WERE IN A LACTOSE BASE AND HE WAS MISERABLE ALL DAY, WITH SOUR SPITUPS AND NO DESIRE FOR A BOTTLE.(SEE HIS PROFILE UNDER CHILDREN SECTION). THANX MAMMA3 FOR YOUR HELP, BUT I AM NOT SURE IF THE MILK FROM ME IS BEST.

Children need lactose for proper brain development, another misconception caused by industry. They'll ruin our kids one way or another! True lactose intolerance cannot develop until age 4.
It can take 12 weeks for all dairy to leave your system. So don't be too quick to rule out the dairy protein.
This is a sensitive subject, and I am not trying to upset you. Unfortunately, there are too many misconceptions out there about infant feeding.
Chamomilla is for irritable children. Perhaps he had a proving.
Goats milk would probably be your best bet if you don't want to relactate. The fresher the better.
Colicky babies are no fun. You are doing a wonderful job in asking questions and seeking the best for your son.

I know this is difficult - as my first child was colicky for a few weeks and it was hell.(She projectile vomited constantly and wouldn't sleep through the night - not once until 12 mos old).

I stuck with the breastfeeding while modifying my diet - and the results were NOT IMMEDIATE....but she finally settled onto my breast.

When she was about 6 months a baby sitter gave her cows milk and she was SO ILL - 6 weeks of diarrhea and that was pretty awful.I had to stop all solids - go completely back to the breast and it really took 6 weeks of this to get her system back to normal - and in the process - there were many, many miserable nights.

I recall that when she was 9 months old - she weaned herself (she began to walk and did not want to sit for a feed) at which point I tried to give her Infant Formula (could NOT get a pump to work for me at that time) - and QUICKLY saw that she was having the SAME symptoms from the Infant Formula that she had from the neat-cows milk...obviously it was cow-based formula. Tried soy - that was almost as bad.

In the end - she was on goats milk until 15 mos. and really did well on it. It was not easy to find - but I found it - and it was not inexpensive....but she was a much happier baby as a result and I FINALLY got some SLEEEEEP. (I seem to recall that I had to give certain vitamins or some sort of supplement to her diet in relation to goats milk - perhaps mamma can clarify this...I could just have fuzzy memory)

Hang in there....you have my sympathy!! It WILL PASS> promise. Best Wishes!! Lisa

thanx, I am trying Nutramigen as of 3:00 today and he has spit up still, but he also has a low grade fever, could be coincidental. The timing of the fever began around 4:00. I noticed that nutrimigen has casein in it and that is a milk protein that has been broken down, so we will see how he reacts to it. I have read up on soy and am determined to try something else. I did not know that babies do not have lactose intolerence yet, am curious what it is? Is it a milk allergy? thank you again for your inputs.

I had similar problems with my son at about the same age. From a few weeks of age he cried almost solidly for 14 hrs per day until he was 9 mths old! He would then fall asleep exhausted for the night. By eliminating all dairy and most of the other food I liked I found I could still breastfeed! Made me feel rather resentful though so I am not sure if it was worth it really. I respect your decision to find an alternative. I weaned my son on to goats milk over a prolonged period of time and he finally weaned himself from me totally at 15 mths when I was pregnant the second time. He continued on goats milk until age 2 1/2 when I put him on to soy and then on to cows milk at about 3 1/2, but I have discovered at age 5 that he is still intollerant and its affecting his ears (fluid in ears). Now I am back to limiting his diet to see if it helps.

With my second child i avoided all dairy and things that triggered off my older childs intollerance and I had very few problems.

Hand in there! Good luck.

Good luck

Be careful

For some children all milks inc goats cause a problem

If breast fed it may be the mother must avoid dairy too

I only discovered years after 2 babies with severe colic that one was milk allergic and other wheat allergic

Projectile vomiting is virtually always dairy allergy

Pat is absolutely correct as I know my son can't tolerate goat products either.