To Govi and anyone else:-

I have just got hold of some Anas Barb 200 which apparently ( See the professional forum)is Oscilloc. in disguise! It is the only way of getting hold of it in the UK! Apparently Boiron have a monopoly on the name.

Govi- on Sam's thread you mentioned "symptoms" of this remedy. Please could you let me know what they are as I can find no reference to this remedy in any MM that I have including both Vermulen's. I would also be interested in knowing how it should be prescribed in the case of flu and I am presuming here that we mean proper flu not a bad cold!! So far none of my patients have had the flu but one or two elderly patients have been blackmailed by the medical profession to have a flu jab and have had the NBWS problems. In these cases I have just repeated their constitutional remedy at the same potency as previously. I believe that this remedy may be successful as a prophylatic remedy although I am very sceptical.

Any thoughts from anyone on the above will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Ricky

Coff 12x at onset of flu. If that doesn't get it, one dose of Tub CM. Patient should take a dose of Sulph 12x at least 4 hours prior to taking Tub, so that vaccines will not interfere.

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JFW- I have also seen these vials while abroad and the mind boggles to think that people can be conned into taking a whole vial when as you say a flake or two would be just as good. For those who are not homeopaths may I remind you that taking 1 pillule or 100 at the same time will still count as 1 dose!

I have purchased the medicating poteny which will give many hundreds of doses.

Re Nux |Vom it is brilliant for the type of cold or flu where you get the chills and it doesn't matter how many layers you are covered with when you move you get shivery.

Mamma3 - I don't know where you have got your information from but as a homeopath I would be very wary of dosing anyone with TubCM which is a very potent remedy unless it is their constitutional remedy.

I got a flyer a few months back offering a more generic product, which I think is the same that you acquired. I have used the Boiron product and it has worked well for symptom relief for the following: severe fatigue with chills and all-body muscle aches. It helped me get through the workday a few times last Autumn. I've tried it for bad colds, were the above symptoms weren't present and got no relief. It is very expensive if used according to directions. I bought the 6-vial package for around $12 US, kept one vial for home, one for work and gave the others to friends. The vials contain a shower of sac lac flakes which are supposed to be one dose altogether but I only use one tiny flake at a time and don't repeat unless the symptoms return. A water remedy preparation of one flake worked just as well. This one vial could last me for years which, of course, raises an issue about how remedies are merchandised.
About the flu, a colleague recently suffered severe flu symptoms and got immediate relief from nux vomica 30C, which she believes may be her constitutional.

Like I said in a previous post, it would be nice if we could learn from others.

I've heard of the Tub for flu from GM, its also somewhere in the archives of this BB. I also read of it on another BB.

How about some discussion on this?

Ocilloc, is isopathy, not homeopathy.
Influenzinum, and oscilloc, is the best remedy for tubercolosis, and tuberculinum for flu, and often influnesa viruses, is the cause to contracting tubercolosis, and tub vaxines the cause to contracting flu. So those fears of Ricky, is a childs fear, a childs fear, is caused by not knowing.
Peculiar that other more dangeorous prescriptions then, is put unquestionable thrust in, from the same fearfull persons, and when others, more experienced says different, those people out of fear, recomends to seek a classical, or what they recognize as a classical, as i see it, if they are as ( the classicals recomended) as lacking of knowledge as their recomenders, i do fully understand why homeopathy cant get recognized as a serious treatment.
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERBODY DONT KNOW THAT EVERYBODY MEASURES OTHERS OUT FROM THEIR OWN LIMITATION, AND THATS WHY A IDIOT CANT RECOGNIZE A GENIUS, BUT LABELS THE GENIUS AS A IDIOT.
This is called prejudice, and projection of ones own limitation onto others.
The new millenium contains sorrowly the same filth as the last, human kind must change, or be like a dino, exstinct.

I have recently had this current flu bug and I did consider tuberculinum best fitted the overall picture of the symptoms I was experiencing. I didn't take (or dare suggest it) it as my homoeopath preferred me to sweat it out (it took 4 weeks!)although I took Ipecac in the early stages and Arsenicum later.

Thank you GM for the info about the link between flu and TB vaccine.

Oscillococcinum (Oh-see-low-coc-see-num) is a very difficult word to pronounce because of its Latin roots. It

"Oscillococcinum is pharmaceutically prepared from an active ingredient called Anas Barbariae Hepatis et Cordis Extractum, a
natural substance officially approved by the Homeopathic Pharmacopeia of the United States. The first thing to take at the first sign of the flu.

For over forty years in Europe, Oscillococcinum (Ah-sill-o-cox-see-num) has provided natural, safe and effective relief from the symptoms of flu, including fever, chills, body aches and pains. Oscillococcinum is the only clinical proven hoeopathic flu
remedy.

Oscillococcinum is an ANASYOR trademark. Oscillococcinum is prepared, manufactured, and distributed by
Laboratoires Boiron.

Oscillococcinum has to be taken within the first 24 hours of the flu. It will get rid of the flu virus before this one
can start weaking your body. Oscillo does not fight influenza, it increases dramatically your natural body
defenses against it. Oscillo is easy to take, just put the granules under your tongue and suck it like a piece of
candy. Oscillo is made from all-natural ingredients, and works with your body to relieve symptoms of flu. It has
no side effects or contraindications, and has been clinically proven for a natural relief of symptoms of flu.

Gary - thank you so much for anwering my question!! Have you any idea how frequently it should be taken or is it the usual case of take one dose, wait and only repeat at return of symptoms?
Have you personally had success with this remedy with your patients?