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Old 2nd August 2007, 11:03 AM
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Dear Friends,
Have you had any experience of negative attitudes from people you have met, or come across on the Internet regarding you using Homeopathy?
If so, how have you dealt with them? What have you 'said' to them?
Does it bother you that there are forums specifically set-up, without proper moderation to 'debunk' us as a profession?
Does it bother you when you read an article saying that Homeopathy is 'placebo' or 'witchcraft' or that all we prescribe is 'sugar pills'.
Does is bother you that some people think that the remedies are SO diluted that they can't be effective?
There are some Homeopaths on forums trying to explain our philosophies.....
This one is based in the US and is run by James Randi a now (very rich) former magician. How he ever became a voice for science I don't know!.......
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=88184
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=88896

Anyway, I just wanted some feedback from YOU and how YOU feel about negative opinions in the press and on the Net,
IN Peace
Mary
p.s. I expect in a few days this thread will be added to their forums and pulled apart as some of them have already tried to join this forum to 'lurk'.
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Old 4th August 2007, 01:16 PM
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Greetings

More Malaysians going for traditional Medicines.

http://www.hpathy.com/homeopathyforu...?TID=6474&PN=1

I am prescribing homeopathic medicine to my patients
daily in Putrajaya, Selangor in the clinic, where allopathy fails.
My bosses who are MDs themselves share my views. This is what truely matters and counts.

http://www.homeopathyandmore.com/for...pic.php?t=1266

With regards
Lew
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Old 19th August 2007, 09:28 AM
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Default Bloody Trojan Mary

This is a trojan post. The same dirty tricks have been used elsewhere. The purpose is to post condemnatory post disguised as concern.

The purpose is to plant seeds of doubts for those people reading the post.
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Old 19th August 2007, 03:36 PM
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Hi chiongguo,
Thank you for your reply. What dirty tricks are you talking about? I am a Registered Homeopath working in the UK and have to deal with a VERY strong undercurrent of negativity, not from my patients, but from the 'medical' profession. I was wondering what your experiences were. Are you in private practice yourself?
Do you see patients?
Are you worried about how to deal with questions that arise?
On Channel Four Monday evening
http://www.channel4.com/culture/micr...ies_of_reason/
is this programme, presented by Richard Dawkins, a man who calls us' the Enemies of Reason'.
How do you deal with this? Or do you just want to bury your head in the sand and pretend that it isn't happening?
In Peace
Mary L English DSH RSHom
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Old 20th August 2007, 02:44 AM
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Respectfully, which in this case is not very much, a person can be anything he/she wants on the internet.

Even if you are a registered Homoeopath it doesn't mean you won't sell your soul to filter lucre that come your way.

The dirty trick I'm referring to is the way in which a person who create credibility - such as being a registered homoeopathy and then took every opportunity to present negative information on homoeopathy in the name of passing on information. These information will not be challenged by anyone here and many may even agree with you that such negativity is bad for homoeopathy but the devious and insidious intention is actually to plant all these negative seeds in the readers who come in here for information and guidance.

Look at the many post you had made and the pattern is very clear that you are a hired gun. It seems there quite a few such people around. Initially I didn't know until someone alerted me to a very systematic program of disinformation, misinformation and outright lies in the alternative therapy discussion groups.

If I were the moderator or owner of this list I would have removed your posts and ban you from it.

If a person who comes in here and discuss the merit or demerit of an issue it is different. When this is done new information emerges and a new understanding will come from it. This should be encourage. Afterall homoeopaths don't have all the answers and some of the treatment may have effects that we don't know of. And in the process of discussion perhaps some other better treatment modality can arise from it.
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Old 20th August 2007, 09:23 AM
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Wooh,
Hold on a minute there chiongguo that is fighting talk. I'm a pacifist and I'm not going to rise to your bait I can assure you I am a genuine Homeopath who has been picked-to-bits on a 'scientific' forum.
www.badscience.net/forum myself and another Homeopath called Sue Young were made fun of, had our finances 'discussed' our work ridiculed, you name it, it happened there.
As I am a person that prefers discussion not argument, I am NOT going to be drawn into defending myself against your completely wrong ideas about me.
This thread is about Homeopath bashing. It happens. It happens in the UK and the US. If we ignore it, we do so at out peril because we need to stand TOGETHER to put it to rest.
Being abusive, argumentative,aggressive and otherwise bolshy won't get you or be anywhere.
As for removing my posts. I'm not bothered if you do, but you can't because YOU are not the moderator.
My question still stands.
If you have no experience of Homeopath, or Homeopathy bashing, then chat on another thread. If you have then lets hear your experiences and maybe we can find a way for Homeopathy to shine.
In Peace
Mary
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I guess you still don't understand there is nothing you can accomplish on a forum where there is no open-minded discussion and the most vocal people are paid to tear you down. If you find enjoyment in posting at those places, fine. If it upsets you (apparently it does), it is silly to keep going back. Just how it is. Get over it.

As far as people I know here in the US, I don't think I ever met anyone who was not already very skeptical about homeopathy. I was myself until out of desperation I gave it a try. So, no, it doesn't bother me when people apply what they learned about science in school and arrive at the conclusion it is all hokus. Doesn't mean they are right, of course.

Reading about homeopathy isn't likely to sway many people at all. They either have to experience it themselves or see it first hand. So, I look for occasions to help people along. That is what can change them. Unfortunately, the easiest way for people to try homeopathy is a "this for that" solution at the corner health care store which isn't likely to work well at all.

For your part, the best advocate you can be is to apply strict classical 6th Organon advanced methods to your patients. Do something that really cures them and does not cause aggravations. Then they will be able to tell their friends and family.
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Old 20th August 2007, 12:32 PM
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Hi Dillweed,
Thanx for the comments. OBVIOUSLY I'm not going to post on a forum like that anymore. I do have some brains even though I'm blonde!
I also don't have any problems with having patients or prescribing. My practice is busy and I have 7 years of happy clients who happily refer their friends and their family members. That's not what I'm referring to.
My concern was how others deal with negativity.
I got drawn into this because of how I saw another Homeopath pulled to pieces and I wanted to set the record straight.
As a Homeopath listening and observing are all important skills. And I observe that there ARE elements in society that don't want to allow us to practice.......by writing articles in magazines, producing TV programmes...writing books.
If we just ignore their actions and bury our heads in the sand we make the development of Homeopathy difficult.
I also realise that most Homeopaths have USED Homeopathy ( I did a survey when I was editor of Student Homeopath Magazine) and the 'critics' have never even tried a remedy....
And yes, its perfectly true that until you use Homeopathy, you can't judge it's ability to heal. My first experience of Homeopathy was when my son was a baby (he's 13 now) and I gave him Aconite for croup....when I SAW him recover from an attack of breathing difficulty I thought ;"WOW, why did THAT happen?".....and after 5 years of study and 7 years of practice I know why....and those 'WOW's still happen.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by veryscarymary View Post
On Channel Four Monday evening
http://www.channel4.com/culture/micr...ies_of_reason/
is this programme, presented by Richard Dawkins, a man who calls us' the Enemies of Reason'.
How do you deal with this?
By addressing his arguments and saying why he's wrong?
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I was [skeptical] myself until out of desperation I gave it a try.
People sometimes just get better - how do you know it was the homeopathy that did it?
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