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Old 14th September 2006, 11:21 AM
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I have treated a Sepia patient (she is Sepia) and also asked her to process the past before she can move to the future. I did open her up for some bad issues of the past. She got so upset and do not want to talk to me anymore. Any expeirence with that and what is the possible future development here, is this an agg? She got 1M
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I am a sepia. Sepia tend to shut down when they feel overwhelmed. I think Bailey says they they don't feel any emotions EXCEPT anger. So the reaction you describe sounds like she is shutting down in not telling you what her issues are. Getting angry is something she can do with ease.

But, the issues for sepia are about her having her spirit broken particulary by a man. Having a man tell her what she can and can not do is not something a sepia will likely tolerate or she will become depressed. This is probably more an issue of having a father who wants her to be "a good little girl," whatever that means. But sepia, being a free spirit, doesn't like having to conform to some idea of what some man in her life thinks she should be.

The other possible issues are being a housewife and the drudgery of housework but this doesn't seem like as big an issue. More likely she feels that her spirit is broken from having to be someone's domestic slave. The other possible issue would be not having a satsifying career. Career problems are not likely to be that bad of an issue, I think.

My guess is that her father wanted her to conform to some idea of his. Or, she could have been in a romantic relationship where she left stiffled by her partner. But honestly, those don't sound like something she would not admit to, though.
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Hello
In brief / haste...plse excuse if seems abrupt...not intended at all!
Why do you consider her to 'be sepia'?
Why does she need to process the past?
I don't always agree with the 'fixed notion of constitution'. We are dynamic creatures...we change don't we? At a given time we may be predominantly sepia...question is do we need the remedy at that time? If the remedy is right....potency important? Mental sx should improve? (and I believe any 'necessary processing of the past' that some therapists are so keen on, will be done at an unconscious level...perhaps through dreaming if 'the body' deems it to be necessary...remedies will sort it? we don't need to interefere do we?)
Yes I have seen Sepia to be deep and very long acting.
If I see a remedy clearly but there is a lot of pathology / drugs / previous emotional trauma / events / removal of organs etc, I will not necessarily give it on the first occasion...if animal or mineral will often open with indicated / related plant....then I find out how sensitive the client is.
One example... first time to homeopathy. I opened with Ignatia bacause that is what was presented with good effect...(but sepia also v evident).
They then went to their Osteopath who declared they were 'sepia' and gave 200c to take daily!! They phoned then returned to me...v pale ill and in pain++..saying " I shouln't have taken that but (the osteopath) was so insistent ". It was such a bad experience of homeopathy they returned to the conventional system. Great ! As you can imagine ...felt just a little annoyed with the osteopath! Too deep, too soon, too often!!
Your case may be an aggravation? Not sure without knowing more about her....could be your 'opening up' rather than the remedy? Future depends on whether she comes back I guess, and how she is then?
Previous trauma / loss / grief? Ignatia > nat mur eg? (depending on case sxs)
Have never opened a case with Sepia
If you do decide it is an aggravation & she is distressed..would probably try a lower potency or antidote if she cannot wait for reaction to fade. Hope that is of some interest..
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Dear Sarah
Good post,well put
Not much detail has been posted on this sepia female so its hard to comment specifics. Can you post the case in detail please?
Did you only use sepia,starting at what potency? Use of Nosodes? Other remedies/conventional meds?

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Need there be any more question about this constitutional prescribing and what it leads to?
As a direct answer to Mose:
Apologize to your patient for the inadequate behaviour on your part and for your own good—you may want to realize, that nobody is a remedy, remedies do not personify, and homeopathic remedies are prescribed by symptom similitude. Likewise you may become aware of your responsibilities regards the health and sanity of your patients.
Homeopathy is not about driving them nuts by poking relentlessly in someone’s past trying to resolve past issues in the hope, that this is the cure.
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dear mose
a great book by rajan Sankaran "The Soul Of The Remedies"
Good chapter on Sepia.................

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Thanks all for your reply. I do not go into details about why she is Sepia but she is. Other remedies wee given previously and also nosodes but not by me. There is a history of dominance of the father and divorce and grief. Physically also many symptoms related to Sepia such as ringworm on the upper part of the body. Sepia spot on the nose and cracks in the lips etc.

Also I did apologize and that make it worse. As part of my treatment I also talk to the patient about the past and this open old wound as might have been suppressed.

I have all the important books for homeopathie.

I was after what could I expect to see next?
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