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Old 5th August 1999, 04:23 PM
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Is homeopathy compatable with breastfeeding? I was told it was safe during pregnancy and lactation. Are their guidelines?
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That depends on what you are treating, and why, and with what remedies.
During pregnacy, it is custom to give certain remedies one after another, to avoid abortion, ineheritance of disease, (call it genetherapy if you like)nausea and vomiting, this is all safe, if done by a experienced.
During breastfeeding it may not be so simple either, the same concearns com in here, some cases, one find that the mother has got a proble, that the child has got no part of, and if you then give a remedy, the child can get a prooving that is unpleasant, but not dangeourous, no homeopatic remedy is that, it is the one giving who is that, if he dont know what he is doing, he can then produce a artificial disease that may be uncurable, this goes for all high potences over x200.

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Old 7th August 1999, 05:08 PM
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I have never been taught to give remedies one after the other, but each to his own. My teacher prescribed remedies when needed, and in single doses, so that the baby receives as little as possible, to avoid provings. On the other hand, it must be kept in mind that the child inherits the miasmatic state from the parents and thus any remedy prescribed on that basis will also eliminate that miasmatic state in the baby. In another post I have mentioned that I was taught to administer a dose of Sulphur in 50M potency directly after birth to the baby, and to follow up with Calc.c. in the same potency 2 days later. Calc and Sulph are each other's complement and follow well. The calc.c. was repeated at 2 weeks and at 2months - all given to the baby. If the mother recieves constitutional treatment, there is no harm for the baby, provided single doses are administered and not repeated quickly. My son was breastfed for nearly 6 years. he began with solid foods by his own will at about 2 years of age and has no allergies, is hardly ever sick and very big (i.e. tall and sturdy) for his age. I gave his mother maybe 4 or 5 doses of her constitutional during those first 2 years. It has not done him any harm. I have also seen mothers being dosed with different remedies, rahter frequently, to the detriment of the baby's peace of mind and consequently the parent's as well. So if you take it easy on the dosage, both of you should be safe. What you described in the other post, with the Ignatia, is not necessarily very good. Take a dose and wait - the mind also has return of old symptoms and should be given time to go through that.
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Thanks for the info. I did notice the baby having a green runny nose and was unusually clingy near the end of my Ignatia bout. I gave her a total of 3 tabs of puls 12x over two days and she was better. ( I didn't realize that the Ignatia could have caused this.) I am learning a lot from this bulletin board and appreciate the tactful feedback.
Ben, I am waiting for the Sulfur and Calc-P (for the psora work on the baby) to come in. Will be posting before I give it to her. One more symptom she has is that the openning of her vagina is closing. The MD wants to use hormones. Will the sulph and calc-p work on this problem?
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I cannot say with certainty as i have never seen a case like that. But from what I know of the developmental powers of the calcium preparations I would say that it is highly likely. Was it you who wanted vermeulen? I cannot find the post anymore. Anyway, the Isbn no is at your other post here.
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BEN!
If you want to quarrel on the procedure, that your teacher has not, then you have to direct it to 30 000 or more, French Homeopats!
And i dont agree on your constitutional wiew, it is dangeourus when not knowing what your doing.To be ligth footed, in each case, answering generally, may produce that fact, to know whats going on, before giving a spesific remedy is the best, and what you can cause, it is rigth that no harm in most cases will ocure, this is although related to what potence, a high potence repeated will produce a prooving, even if rigth, low potences can do the same, but they will not produce a artificial medical disease, thats hard to cure, and if you ever have been participating in proovings, you, of all should know what thats like, and not want to let an innocent person go true that torture.
This is what it is to be a Homeopat, to take responbinselty that follows.

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MAMMA3.
It is likely that a hormone treatment will interfear with homeopathy, as cp works on calcitonin levels, and more, that is the chief hormones regulating others.
To tell anything about remedies to use, a caseanalysis is needed, this is too scanty info.
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I have seen the closing of the openning of the vagina of my oldest daughter as well. I sort of see this as a sign of health. My second daughter started to have it after a few doses of calc-c 6x. (for ear infections) My MD is afraid that the baby's urethra will close if allowed to continue. So, of course I am afraid not to act quickly on this. The hormone is a cream applied locally. The baby is a very happy baby, patient. Has always slept well. Used to sleep on stomach, now there is some variation. Her first tooth is getting ready to break through (and there is no fussiness). She is a well-rounded baby with lots of rolls, "fluffy" is the word I would use. Stomach is not protruding, though. She does have some "baby acne" on her cheeks. Any feedback is appreciated.

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Old 12th August 1999, 06:09 AM
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As a midwife I saw the labial fusion happen twice. We followed the instructions given in Barbara Bates' "Guide to Physical Examination." Quote: Fusion of the labia minora is seen commonly. It may be partial, with only the posterior portion of the labia fused, or it may be complete. A thin membrane that joins the labial edges is easily lysed with a cotton swab or a probe. The labia will also separate if an estrogen-containing cream is applied to the labia once or twice daily for several days." Both times the fusion was corrected by using a cotton swab (Q-tip) to gently break the membrane. The older midwife I apprenticed with always advised mothers with infant girls to be "gentle but slightly aggressive when cleaning the babies" in order to prevent the fusion from happening. Hope this helps. Oh and the babes didn't seem to mind when she preformed the lysing of the membranes.
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GM.
It seems when I post after you, you take it as an attack on you. This is not the case, as I post not for or against anyone here, but for the benefit of the patient. I quarrel with no-one and who cares if 30000 French homoeopaths think always in terms of quarrel. I am pretty sure that not all share you views. I give my experience and nothing more. Hahnemann warns since the second edition of the organon against the homoeopathic drug disease, when he had nothing but low potencies. That is what is MY concern. If your experience is different, you should write a revision of the Organon, for that where the idea comes from.
If you read my posts well you have seen that i am never an advocate of repetition in any potency and a case of scarlet fever, where I would repeat for instance belladonna in a 30c because it is necessary, has so far not yet been presented. So I stick with what I have been taught and because it works, which is confirmed by experience. He who cures is right and that is my concern.

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The drug disease comes from the excessive use of any drug in any potency and thus it is perfectly possible that the symptoms are produceed like that. Also I believe in and trust my remedies, and I have often seen that symptoms apparently not covered by the remedy were cured. So the baby's remedy par excellence, Calc.c., is quite capable of performing beyond our conception. In practice we see sometimes that a peculiarity is not part of the remedy, while everything else fits like the proverbial glove. That one thing will also be cured by the remedy and so we have 'cured symptoms' in the MM. Hahnemann was a great advocate of this, because if it was passed on, others might confirm and so it would be integrated i n the mm.
His MM had different notations. "cured, confirmed and definitely cured" were some of them. Later hughes wanted to clear the MM of that, because he considered such data invalid. he also cleared it of any provings with high potencies, as he did not believe in them either. 3 to 4 doses over 6 years is perfectly alright and the constitutional because it is the closest to your real remedy also clears up more than we generally expect. I have seen old injuries clear up under the constitutional remdy, which were responding to arnica only partially. I have also seen that babies benefit from it, because they share much of the constitution with the mother.
So have no fears.

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