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Old 9th August 2006, 12:47 AM
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The title of my last post should have been : The Mantle Has Not Fallen On You.
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Old 25th August 2006, 09:32 AM
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I wonder if you have noticed that in the original article (if I'm not mistaken) that passkey posted - or was it in a later post, anyway, it was mentioned that AIDS is practically unknown in Japan. The paper Nikkei Shimbun of yesterday has mentioned that this year the number of new AIDS patients registered last year was bigger than that of the previous year and in general the alarming tendency of increase in such patients has not changed - that number was 253 new patients. I was wondering what are the figures in UK, for example, if anyone happens to know. I have indeed the impression that the patients - those that go on to develop the AIDS symptoms, - is strangely small in Japan, correct me if I'm wrong.

By the way, the article also mentioned that the cases resistant to all existing drugs also seem to be increasing in proportion, constituting about 20-40 percent of all cases, and there is a need to develop new drugs.

I was however wondering, why do the Japanese seem to have a sort of immunity towards AIDS, a very particular type of susceptibility. (They are being told by the press that Japanese have a special gene taht protects them.) Are they too strongly sycotic? I'm thinking about sycosis because it (sycosis) seems to by in some way related to increased humidity compared to many other regions of the Earth, I remember that even Vithoulkas in his book mentioned that in humid climates people are more likely to get depressed or something. So, what about other South-eastern countries like Malaysia, maybe? Or is it that the level of disease is so far deeper here that such outwardly destructive disease does not affect people? Just wondering, though, if anyone might have any ideas, not that I wish to speculate on something. If I understood correctly, Dr. Lew had some material about effects of placement on the Earth on the level of health. Would you then think that it would be wiser to, for example, move to a more favourable place, or is it possible to "improve" the place itself?

But, please, don't take the subject too seriously by any means!

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Cannot make head or tail of it, so no question of taking the subject any seriously.
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Old 25th August 2006, 11:22 AM
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Dear arun,

I agree that I've not been able to express what is my concern in relation to the subject I mentioned in my post - I'm just so pressed for time in general, that I don't manage to arrange my thoughts in any reasonable way, maybe it's also a symptom for my remedy?

But since I have become aware of the state of health in Japan, where I have lived for some time now, I have always been wondering why is it that their culture is so different from any other country and so unique, so "ethereal" - they are obsessed by ghosts, for example, you might have noticed from the Japanese cartoons that must be all over the world now, so zombie-like, the majory of population, mind you, they obey extremely weird social customs, that are so unnatural any way that you look at them, so anti-humanistic. Their history is very special - closed country - autistic in a way - unable to relate to the rest of the world, they continue to be struggling to do this, but are increasingly failing to do this... They just lack - or have in a weirdly exxaggerated way (feel and see and hear ghosts like a rare medium from the West) - any intuition (most people seem to be lacking, I mean, entirely! I guess you will not be able to imagine this, and I did not either, I mean, I was always wondering - are they so totally unintuitive or what? - could not beleive what I saw.) For example, when you look at a person you would probably be able to see if someone were tired or angry, but they don't. WHen I commented on this - that someone looks tired or angry - or sad, or anything! - I was invariably asked WHY DID I THINK SO, and whether the person themselves told me that they were tired or angry... THey just don't SEE the other person at all!

So I was trying to figure out what might be the cause for this, and one of the pecularities is this thing that they don't seem to develop AIDS although the number of homosezuals, for example, in Tokyo is staggering, nobody dares to publish any estimates...

So, dear Arun, I'm not aware where in India are you from, but would you be able to notice the diffirence in the patterns of symptoms that people develop in southern humid areas of your country, or in the west, where it's dry, or in the north, where it's not so hot... I was trying to figure out how much ande in what way the PLACE where someone lives, might influence - weaken, - CONSTITUTION, that is. Of course, it's not the only factor in disease, as I understand, there are many factors of different strength...

Like, Chinese have developed their knowledge in a basically empirical and utilitarian fashion, there is not much "scientific" theory, if you see what I mean; for example, they knew the uses of the compass for a very long time, but nothing like western geographical abstraction of the Earth as the globe etc. has ever developped (at least, until there was an influence from the west), while at the same time western civilisation always tends to overtheorise things. This is not to say that any party (Chinese or Europeans - and there would be differences between Arab civilisation, of course, and many other systems of thought existent all over the world and maybe less known to others) are inferior in any way, I guess Chinese were just fine without all this "science"! They are just different, but different in what way - that is the question...

Well, if this has made the question clearer...

THanks for answering anyway!

Elena
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Dear Elena,The japanese are a verry suppressed society of people. So suppressed that historical blunders have been eliminated from view.These bad incidences occuring in the past many are not made to surface.

Firsthand example is in regards my family; WWII the Japanese army invaded many asian countries (just like the german army did in the west) The japanese also had horrific concentration camps set up on many pacific Islands like Indonesia. Both my father and mother and all my aunts and uncles were captured by the japanese army sent to concentration camps for 4yrs like animals left there to die of malaria/dysentery/lack of food.....etc. Ask any japanese old or young about these events,they will deny it/suppress it.
Regards AIDS,dont think this will cause genocide in Japan, as it is in Africa its not part of the plan. Gov. politics= AIDS. Read some of the links i posted previously regards ethnic and gay cleansing. That subject is highly controv. but it makes one really think........................................
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Dear Gina,

Yes, I think you are right! All those horrible stories about what the Japanese did to the people of the Asian Pacific regions - most people will just be unable to grasp it. I remember the TV show that talked about two girls who decided to explore the past and went to Thailand. There was an attempt to make the local prisoner construct a railroad in the jungle - just like Stalin in RUssia has made the prisoners in his concentration camps to construct railroad in Tundra where noone lives! The girls went to the jungle area in search of some new exciting discovery, I guess, but they were so shocked when they realised what the people were made to suffer, they weeped endlessly, I'm afraid they got seriously depressed afterwards, which the TV did not show, of course. But the irony of this, which, I'm afraid few people abroad understand is that Japanese did all these cruelties because that's they way they treat anyone - their own people included! I remember having read about how the victims of the atomic bombardments of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were treated here in Japan... One gets the fervent idea that this kind of society simply has no right to exist on Earth! And yet they are still alive... but not well, by any means.

I'm also wondering what sort of unspeakable diseases (involving that amount of physical suffering) they should contract in order to get healed in the end! One in 3 people at present is said to have cancer, I wonder what rates other societies have, if anyone knows? And how much homeopathy can really help anyone here...

But I'll still go on trying anyway... Ah.

Sorry to have brought it here, but I have virtually noone to discuss this here, around me.

THanks for replying Gina!

I'm really sorry for what all your relatives have had to suffer because I understand it only too well! They way they treat people!... But somehow they are able to hide this all behind their masks - incredible!

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What is the Canova

The Canova Immunomodulator is a highly diluted and dynamized homeopathic medicament, which does not present any toxicity, and is indicated on those diseases where the immunologic system is depressed, particularly in the cases of Aids and Cancer.
How the Canova works in the organism

The medicament acts on the main cells of the immunologic system, called macrophages, enlarging their functions. These cells are capable of recognizing any alien elements that have penetrated into the organism, and they start to exchange information with other cells from the immunologic system, which start then to fight against the HIV – the Aids causing virus – and also against the malignant tumurous cells as well.
While acting as a modulator of the immunologic system, Canova provides such conditions so the organism is capable of producing and releasing natural elements, which then get into its defense system. By doing so, favorable conditions are created in order to allow a better control of the disease.

In cancer cases — The Canova provides a regression of the symptoms, including pain, thus improving patient’s overall quality of life, who starts to have his/her appetite back, to feel well and willing and to put on some weight, thus improving the prognosis for the disease, making it to look significantly better.
In Aids cases — Besides increasing the number of active cells – macrophages – which increase the organism’s defenses, Canova also increases the number of T and B lymphocytes, as well as the number of cytokines, which are structures involved in the organism’s defense. Thus, patients with Aids immediately respond to treatment, with a decrease on the incidence of opportunistic diseases, such as pneumonia and other infections, which are the major death causes in Aids cases. The viral burden goes down to very low levels, becoming, in some cases, almost non-detectable.
















< Canova also increases the number of T and B lymphocytes,as well as the number of cytokines, which are structures involved in the organism's defense.>

An excerpt from:

http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_po...p?TID=740&PN=1


" I tried to find the original research results but could not find them published anywhere. The drawback about elderberry products like Sambucol is that they act by increasing cytokines. This might make elderberry products harmful in the case of bf ( bird flu ), because researchers speculate that one of the reasons that young people get more severe cases of bird flu might be because of a 'cytokine storm', where there is so much cytokine production from white blood cells that it becomes toxic. Lungs and other organs are massively damaged. This is what's responsible for the early, severe pneumonia in young people with bf, that is so difficult to reverse. In other words, the jury might still be out on elderberry! "

Black Elderberry ( sambucus nigra ) . This product has been potentised. Homeopathy is not left out.

http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_po...p?TID=740&PN=1


Now,what is your take or view on " cytokine storm " ? The world health authorites have already warned of the H5N1 Avian Flu Virus infection of AIDS patients.


With regards
Lew
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Dear Dr Lew

Elderberry has been used for thousands of years by the American Indians a tribe called Chumash . These chumash indians lived in this area where i hike on the weekends,elderberry can be found everywhere you look. Yes its great for the flu,you can make it yourself with the blackberries.

Regards the Avian bird flu; www.mercola.com (look up birdfluhoax)

Drumed up feartactics to promote sales of Tamiflu by sec. of Defence Donald Rumsfield
www.birdfluhype.com
www.redflagsDaily.com (avian flufears) recording

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But Elisa test(antibody to the virus is detectable) and Western blot method detects the viral DNA! Whether the patient is symptomatic or not depends upon the number of healthy WBCs-lymphocytes.
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