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Old 6th July 2006, 07:05 PM
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I love to study homeopathy and have a couple of questions which may be very basic but I can't find answers to. I hope someone will take the time to explain.

1. Unpotentized onion causes burning eyes, tears, running nose, etc. and potentized onion (Allium Cepa) cures individuals suffering those same symptoms. But Arnica and Calendula have been used for centuries as healers of injuries in their unpotentized form and yet they are both potentized and used to heal injuries, i.e. the same purpose for both unpotentized and potentized. Why is the rule changed?, i.e. unpotentized Arnica and Calendula don't cause the injuries that they can cure in a potentized form.

2. I've never heard it explained what "one remedy at a time" actually means in terms of time. Is it not within the same 1) minute; 2) hour; 3) day; or 4) known reaction time of the first remedy. Also in acute situations, alternating remedies is recommended with sometimes only 15 minutes of separation. So what does "one remedy at a time" mean?

Thank you for any light you may shed on these questions.
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dear Debbie
Homeopathic remedies in high potency such as arnica can reach 'other' levels of the vital force,example; I had a patient who was an allopathic MD she had a bad injury on her shinbone from a skii accident a few yrs prior. Being an allopath she tried all and any pain meds,nothing worked. Her pain was day and night constant. I gave her a high potency arnica 1M ,one pill (one dose) disolved in a glass of water and succussed. By the next day i got a call saying the pain had vanished completely.
Look under (rep) "never been well since" ------accident-------arnica.
The older the injury the higher the potency.
This healing lasted an entire year. The next year she said the pain came back i gave her 10M arnica...(again one dose one pill)........its been years now,she is well and healed.
Yes arnica flower in its physical form does help but only on the physical topical level,not like homeopathic arnica.
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Debbie,
Arnica and calendula are not used to heal the injuries alone. They cover host of other symptoms. I agree they don’t produce injuries in the sense you are talking about but during proving they produced other symptoms, which they heal in the form of potencies.

Using one remedy at a time means that for a particular ailment, one remedy should be used for the period of treatment. If two or three remedies were used during a particular day though separated by a few minutes or a few hours, it would NOT mean using one remedy at a time. Using two remedies one after the other on a particular day is done under special circumstances, which depends on the nature of the case. It is not a routine otherwise.

Take an example for further explanation. If someone gets common cold and is given Ars (for example) every day for a few days, it would mean using one remedy at a time. Suppose the person does not get cured and the remedy is to be changed. Now you stop Ars and switch over to Allium-cepa (for example) and use it as before. This would still mean using one remedy at a time. But if you use Ars in the morning and Allium-cepa in the evening every day, this would mean using two remedies at a time, not one. I hope this clarifies.
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Thank you Gina, I'm still not sure. Because "what it can cause, it can cure". So unpotentized causes healing and potentized causes healing even though on a deeper level. But both healing, no?
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Thanks Akram. It's starting to sink in. The example of the Ars and Allium Cepa says to me that as long as you're taking one and then CHANGING to a different remedy then that's one at a time.

Interesting that I was the patient of a homeopath who called herself classical but she prescribed more than three different remedies per day and more than six in one week followed by three of the same the next week and three different. The more I learn the more I need to learn. Thank you.
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You are welcome Debbie,

I would not comment on what your homeopath gave you but at times two remedies that support each other can be given alternately depending on the symptoms and requirement. For example, Nux-vom and Sepia make a good combination but they are not taken together. Sepia would be used in the morning and Nux-vom at night. Similarly Sulphur and Nux-vom also make a good pair. In rare cases three of them can be used in a cycle, like Sulph-Lyc-Nux-v. This is called using them in a cycle but basically, one remedy at a time is the rule. Two remedies are not to be mixed or taken together to make one dose of them. Even in a pair or cycle each dose should contain one remedy only. You would know more about such pairs with further details about relationship of remedies.
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Great many great people have done great things. We must study them. Followiing is a copy-paste collection to counter a misunderstanding that Arnica only 'cures' and does not 'cause' :

1. Pain as from a sprain in the joints of the chest and back
2. Pain in the chest, as if it were raw, with roughness of the throat during cough
3. His chest feels affected, raw
4. All the joints of the bones and cartilages of the chest feel painful, as if they were bruised, during motion and breathing
5. Pain, like prickings, in the right side of the chest
6. Pain in the left side of the chest, like pricks of pins (after twenty-nine hours)
7. Rough drawing in the muscles of the left side of the neck, with bruised pain
8. The sense of concussion was felt in the body generally
9. Pain as from bruises in the back
10. Sharp stitches in both loins (after three hours)
11. Pain in the small of the back, as if something had been torn inside
12. Pain in the sacrum, as after a violent blow or fall
13. Heaviness in all the limbs, as after great fatigue
14. paralytic pain in all the joints, during motion, as if the joints were bruised (after eight hours)
15. Deeply penetrating dull stitches in the limbs, here and there
16. Pain in all the limbs, as if they had been bruised, both when at rest and in motion (after ten hours)
17. Painful concussion in all the limbs; felt when the carriage shakes, as when one treads too firmly upon the foot in walking
18. Pain as from bruises on the anterior surface of the arms
19. The arms feel weary, as if he had been bruised by blows
20. Smarting, sore sensation below the shoulder
21. Painful concussion or shock in the arm, almost electric-like
22. Painful concussion or shock in the arm, almost electric-like
23. Painful stitches, like shocks, in the upper part of the upper arm
24. Twitches in the left upper arm, as if a nerve were twinged
25. When bending the arm, the flexor muscles of the forearm are tense; extending these muscles again is painful (after two hours)
26. Tearing pain in the arms and hands
27. Burning stitches in the forearm
28. Slow, dull stitches in the left forearm, with acute pains, as if the arm were broken (early, when in bed)
29. Sharp, broad stitches below the elbow-joints (after two hours)
30. Slight cracking and sensation of dislocation in right wrist, when moving the hand
31. Sticking tearing in the wrists, especially in the left (after three hours)
32. Pain as from a sprain in the wrist (chest, back, hips)
33. Pain as from a sprain in the wrist-joint
34. Pain as from a sprain in the left wrist-joint (after two days)
35. Sharp stitches in the wrist-joint, increased by motion (after two hours)
36. Pain in the thighs when walking, as from a blow or contusion
37. Pain as after a violent blow over the calf of the right leg, accompanied by lassitude of the legs
38. Pain as from a sprain in the tarsal joint
39. Nettle-rash eruption (child from smelling Arnica)
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Thanks Arun. I didn't think about the provings . . . only about the uses of the plant. It makes sense that if all things are "poisons" in some concentration then Arnica would also have its negative effects on health. Makes me think about how the worst poisons are also the greatest remedies when potentized.
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Thanks again Akram. I've read of complementary remedies but was thinking of them being taken in succession rather than alternately. Also your comment about combining remedies in one dose makes me wonder about homeopathic companies which offer combination remedies although I suppose this would be in response to the school of thought that combining is good. For instance, I've seen a remedy for "women's health" which was a combination of about 10 remedies. Seems a bit like playing with fire to me since I have seen some really strong and destructive aggravations caused by combining remedies.

By the way, I'm grateful to my first homeopath for giving me a remedy that cleared up a 35 year stretch of weeping poison ivy but have since left her care due to the fact that I would depart her office with in excess of 30 remedies to be taken over a three or four month period. Everything I read contraindicated this type of prescribing since it is impossible to tell in advance how any one body might be changed in response to a particular remedy. I think that a more conservative approach is preferable.

I've since seen a classical homeopath (for three years) who was unable to find my constitutional remedy and has now moved from my city. There are no other homeopaths here so I'm now just studying on my own and hoping to come across something that sounds like me. It's a long lonely process so I'm very happy to have found this discussion group.
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Things cannot be branded POISONS or elixirs. The only way to ascertain the properties of materials is to administer them to healthy humans i.e. prove them. Only healthy humans can record observations. What is poisonous to men is happily eaten by goats.
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