Would you say that Gelsemium is dangerous to take in high potency as it mentions about the heart feeling as if it would stop.
Any opinions? Thx

It is not dangerous to take in high potency but it is said that for all physical complaints start with low potency and then go higher if needed by the situation.

Regarding other question,there are so many remedies for that condition and you have to select most suitable in accordance to complete sign and symptoms.


sajjad.

Dear SUfferer,

You mention in a post in another thread that you know how homeopathy works and the basics etc., so please, do not consider this as an attempt to ridicule you in any way - can you please try to answer a question: what will a (classical) homeopath try to obtain from you when he searches for a remedy - what kind of symptoms, how many or how do you imagine this process? - If you answer this one, then we'll be able to see what you already know and what you seek to know - and then try to help you!

Like what symptoms would you think Gelsemium might be chosen for? Have you heard about modalities of the symptoms, for example?

Elena

Dear suff
Look at it a different way........... homeopaths prescribe remedies on the TOTALITY of your symptoms (that is if the case was done properly as in a 'full casetaking ' is suppose to be done). So for example if Gels. was found as your 'well indicated' remedy than you must consider the emotional and mental symptoms aswell not only the physicall.
a great book by rajan Sankaran called "the soul of the remedies" page.85 it goes into the rubics and emotional/mental symtoms in detail.

Again we here on line are not YOUR homeopath,we dont know WHY you would need gels. If given in a high potency it makes sense to me it was given for your mental/emotional symptoms.

Gina Tyler

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"Is this a test?? If you don't want to answer then don't test me, I don't come here for an argument. I know the answer already but it would be a long answer. Yes I do know what modalities are- it's better/worse from what and for example what position etc. I know about finding out where it extends, all your problems...I've even done a whole questionaire on my own-- How does this relate to my question about why a remedy exaggerates..?
I've seen what was said about Gelsemium already such as stagefright and a lot more in Materia Medica and also what I said "above" which I why I asked the question and I just wanted to make sure my homeopath didn't get me wrong as for not having it that degree so I didn't know why and it takes long to get a reply from my homeopath."

Well, have you ever passed a "placement" test, which would decide in what group of, for example, foreign language students - beginner, intermediate, advanced - are you best suited? SUch tests are not done to undermine you in any way, but to help you study better - so there are tests and tests... Although I wrote in my message that did not mean to test you or anything...

Also if you wish to know WHY does a remedy produce this or that symptom - then I beleive NOBODY in the whole world will ever be able to ask this question. And happily this is not relevant to treating someone with homeopathy - it's sufficient to know that they have ceratin symptoms, no matter what might have caused them, as there can be so many reasons, that's where mainstream medicine fails often - if they do not find a reason, very often they don't know what to do.

Another aspect - PEOPLE are not REMEDIES, some person might have this symptom, another one - another, but I doubt if you will ever find a person who has them all at once... And even the same homeopath will usually not be able to state the unique reason why he has chosen the same remedy for different people - the TOTALITY has suggested it, but it might be very different for any to given patients, even the opposite - you have heard about polarities, I suppose...

I have been studying homeopathy for more than 5 years now, but I'm not sure that I will be able to prescribe someone Gelsemium as a "constitutional" remedy, not as an acute, that is. In a cold or flu I usually get it right quite often, but as a chronic case - I still have a lot to learn... I use 10 different Materia Medicas when I study a remedy, but the most important procedure is to browse a Repertory - now I looked into my Kent's repertory, under "extremities, numbness (page 1035, Indian Edition) and have found that Gelsemium appears there in BOLD BLACK letters, so that might be good for these symptoms as well, but as Gina told you, this is only a little part of the whole picture, and we here do not know the rest, can only guess from what you write and how, but again, not much - to be able to answer you.

I see that you are saying that you are waiting to hear from your homeopath, well, that's the wisest thing to do. And also the most frequent prescription in a chronic case is "wait and see"!

I do wish you all the best and hope that in a year or so, you will sign your posts as "former "sufferer and will actually suffer less,

best,

Elena

Addition,

I think I see now what you mean by your question, now that I reread it. You fear that you might have this particular symptom as a proving? Well, after one single dose there is nothing to fear, it will just go away very soon even if it appears. Proving symptoms in homeopathy are not like what happened the other day to several English guys who found themselves in a hospital after they started to take the trial drug, one of them will lose most of his fingers - but this will never happen with homeopathy - at least, if the crude substance is not used, which is never done these days. And much less likely with high potencies, which do not have any "physical" or "chemical" aspect of action on you. There are no traces of the original substance in them, they are "spirits" of the substances if you wish.

I hope this will not scare you off from homeopathy, but their action is like that of "prayer in a glass" as my own homeopath often says, they just cannot be poisonous. Therefore the transitory symptoms and sensations cannot be related to any actual physical harm at the organ or system of your body involved in this sensation, they are "imaginary" in a way, and will most surely pass away very quickly.

Maybe this is closer to what you expected to hear?

Elena

ELena's patient explanations bring out the entire scope of your questions, Sufferer.

I think you need to read her posts in depth, as somehow your question does not reflect adequate understanding of the clinical action of remedies.

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Dear suff. A symptoms that you never had before? the answer is "you are Proving the remedy". My suggestion is to stop. But it's only a simple suggestion i'm not your homeopath. You should be feeling symptoms you have had before in your past in the reverse order "herings law of cure".
Did this help any? Gina Tyler

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No problem, I'm glad that you have been able to try and read again, and I have always thought that to treat a patient a doctor should be PATIENT first, because it would be strange to suppose that the patient knows everything that the physician has... So to be patient is a must for someone who wants to help someone else... Never mind.

THe books are all called Materia Medica, I use Kent's, Phatak's, Gibson's Margaret Tylers, Boericke's, Vermeulen's, also the Materia Medica parts from books like "homeopathy for pregnancy and your baby's first year" by Miranda Castro, there are also MM's by Morrison, "Key Symptoms" of Allen and "Leaders of homeopathic Theurapeutics" by Nash, Sankaran's "spirit of homeopathy", Vithoulkas's "essences of homeopathic remedies" and a couple of other books... In any case it is not wise to use any one or even two books, and maybe the best will be to find the original texts of the provings plus the repertory where you can find the clinically useful symptoms.

But the important part is not to simply collect as many symptoms as you can find, but choose the most characteristic, which requires quite serious analytic work and a certain amount of practice which a serious homeopathic school will make you do in the course of the studies and also later by supervision of your first cases.

I would not say the symptoms are "imaginary", they indicate that there is a problem, in particular, this may be that the "energetic" side of you does not reflect correctly what happens in your body and says that there is something when there is not, or it can be that you failed to notice something and now you have symptoms that show you that you have indeed a problem with your body, which is a good sign, because you cannot treat someone if you have too few symptoms, like with cancer patients - they just do not have any particular symptoms to help find them a good remedy, they are too weak to have any symptoms, at least that's what they say, I have not, of course, ever treated anyone with serious pathology, I'm still a student. Well, a symptom is a cry for help "Help!" - if you are strong enough you'll be able to cry really loud, but if you are weakened your cry can only be so weak - sometimes so weak that nobody would be able to hear!

Why a remedy would exaggerate - because the main idea of homeopathy rests on empirical observation made by Hahnemann some 200 years ago that a really existing disease can be eradicated by stimulating the person's Vital Force in such a way that a very similar artificial disease is created, which wakes up the reactive function of the Vital Force, it tries to throw off the artificial disease and at the same time the true one, which existed before. But in order to wake up this reactive function the VItal Force needs to face the disease which is somewhat stronger than what it had before - and failed to react to. If you do not pull the string strongly enough it's not going to fire back, that's the point.

So it might happen that the "pull" (or "push", if you wish) of the remedy was just a little bit too strong and a strong symptom has appeared where previously there was a weaker one before the vital Force had the time to deal with this symptom and stop producing it.

Well, I have tried to write a bit but it's difficult to concentrate when a small child is running around, so I'll have to stop for now. Hope this will add to your knowledge a little bit? WIll be happy if it does.

Best wishes again,

Elena