Jacob opted to explain what he means when using the terms 'constitution' and 'layers'. This hardly qualifies as 'force'.

Search the archives if you want to know more about the point being made about 'constitutional prescribing'. Sift through the heated discussions and make up your own mind. Keep an open mind. Not an easy task when drawn to certain personalities over others. A dispassionate approach helps though.
Happy hunting.

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I know about the "heated discussions." Nevertheless, some people like to look down on others. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect.

Dear Hans
What you ask is replied to verry clearly by jacob. These questions are first year homeopathy.

Please Explain what you dont understand?
Gina Tyler

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Dear Members
Dear Gina, Tanstar, etc.

If a layer can be seen – show me. If layer is a disease – then it expresses itself by means of disease-symptoms and signs and can be treated by the means of remedies.
If it’s a theory, then what is the significance for the selection of a remedy to become homeopathic???
The physiological layers of humans are skin –connective tissue- bone, cavities etc.
How’s about that?

As far as miasmatic disease is concerned, there can be in rare cases a combination of chronic miasmatic disease be prevalent. The disease-history of the patient would reveal the infection with Syphilis and Psora, or Gonnerhea and Psora. Details are found in the book of chronic diseases.

If constitution is disease, are we all sick by virtue?
Does , size, shape, colour, sex, temperament being expression of the individual constitution then form part of a disease-picture?

Is Constitution a disease?? Or is it just individual normality –

Or, what are we actually treating with remedies?
Or what can remedies treat?

The last question, I want to answer myself with the following:
Remedies can cure what they cause. They can cure diseases which are like the artificial diseases they have brought our in test-persons.

I have not seen any proving, nor have I ever partaken in a proving, where someone’s size, shape colour sex or temperament was changed.

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A constitution is not a disease. But a constitution (i.e. personality) helps to determine remedies for diseases (i.e. deviations from each person's norm).

I don't agree with the current trend of inventing constitutional pictures, and then prescribing one remedy for life.

We also need to keep in mind that the person's very personality may be largely shaped by their miasm. So in removing the miasmic 'layers,' a completely new person may emerge. A more 'pure' personality, free of miasmic baggage. So in that sense, the 'constitution' may be viewed as a disease.

I saw a held understanding/belief being challenged. I didn't see it as anything to do with lack of respect or looking down on another.

How about remembering that it's okay to discuss what things mean. If we're challenged, then we're learning. At least, that's how I see this.

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I think people use 'layer', as a kind of simplistic term to say something like: once the first set of symptoms (one layer) is removed - we're left with another set of symtoms (another layer).

I've had it described to me like this: a 'layer' of disease is like an onion -- it needs to be peeled back to reveal each new set of symptoms to be cured. And each remedy given (provided it's the right remedy at the time) will cure that layer (set of symptoms).

However, I think it is a misleading term to use in homeopathy. An onion has each layer neatly wrapped round the next. This isn't remotely like the dynamic vital force, which is much more complex.

Do you mean constitution consists of various things including temperament? And that personality traits are not disease symptoms, but, if there is a deviation from the normal behaviour/temperament then this could be considered for use as a disease symptom?
Is this what you were saying Tanstar?

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Hans Weitbrecht wrote:

If a layer can be seen – show me. If layer is a disease – then it expresses itself by means of disease-symptoms and signs and can be treated by the means of remedies.
If it’s a theory, then what is the significance for the selection of a remedy to become homeopathic???
The physiological layers of humans are skin –connective tissue- bone, cavities etc.
How’s about that?

The embryonic ectoderm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectoderm

Are we all to some degree synaesthetic ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/prog...derek_qa.shtml


< Is Constitution a disease?? Or is it just individual normality –

Or, what are we actually treating with remedies?
Or what can remedies treat?

The last question, I want to answer myself with the following:
Remedies can cure what they cause. They can cure diseases which are like the artificial diseases they have brought our in test-persons.

I have not seen any proving, nor have I ever partaken in a proving, where someone’s size, shape colour sex or temperament was changed. >

Are we all to some degree synaesthetic ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/prog...derek_qa.shtml


The synaesthetic expressions.

http://www.jwannerton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index1.htm

With regards
Lew

Hi Everyone.
I just want to let you all know that I did not mean any disrespect to anyone. I have the highest of respects for Jacob, Hans, Gina, LisaAnnan. It's just that after what happened on another forum , I've become maybe a bit too defensive. So I hope I haven't offended anyone. Thanks for your unbiased opinions, Lisa Annan.
I know you don't need any help from me, Jacob.

Whether constitutions and miasms are inherent or genetically predispsed?

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