Questions-Remedy type & Potencies?

kayveeh · #1 (**permalink**) 24th April 2006, 10:25 AM

Hello,

As we know that homeopathic remedies are derived from plant, animal, and mineral sources. Plant and animal are composed of different substances and few different substance may be prominient either in plants or in animals(Mg, Silicon etc. in plants, Iron, Calcium etc. in animals). These are also multile and mixed consituents remedies. Minerals based can be single/specific or few chemical based remedies.

There can be some remedies which are part of our daily food which we ingest in quantity eg; Nat.Mur.

I have two questions:-

1. Are there some spectific and common chracteristic indicated for specific type of remedies derived from plant, anmimal and mineral sorce?

2. How potencies can be differenciated for substances we are regularily taking as food etc. in quantity and for substances either we are not taking or taking in less/least quantities?

Best wishes.

kayveeh · #2 (**permalink**) 24th April 2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacob

Hello Kayveeh, some very interesting points you raise here.

Substances such as Nat. Mur are not medicainally active (beyond causing high blood pressure etc, which is entirely due to their biochemical properties), unless triturated (i'm not going mad here am I, this IS the case for Nat. Mur?). Even when potentized, they do not achieve any great degree of Homoeopathic medicinal action.

To address your questions,

1. I don't believe this to be so. Many of our finest anti-miasmatics, Thuja being an example, are derived from plant source. But it should be born in mind, that the plant is only able to achieve this through the specific interaction between it's chemical constituents, which make it a unique substance. So it's a mute point really.

2. Potencies can be differentiated from foodstuffs etc by virtue of the fact they are, indeed, potencies. Potentization is not merely dilution, hence the sucussion stage, it's a process of 'charging' a substance to make it more medicinally active. Substances found in water for example, such as chlorine, are merely diluted.

I hope this helps clarify

-Jacob.

Hello Jacob.

Thanks for the reply.

Let us think about effects created by plant, animal and mineral origin substances. There may be some stability/relaxed conditions in constituents of plant origin sunstance esp. green parts, due to magnessium & silica contents. There may be some movments/contracted conditions in constituents of animal origin susbstances. If we compare Mag.Phos(for contracted conditions and also more plant based) and Ferrum phos (Cal.Fluor als)(for relaxed conditions and also more of animal based), we may understand something relevant. Mineral remedies can be specifically understood individually.

Regarding potencies, I am trying to understand, whether higher patencies are needed for substances which we are regularily taking in quantity and are habitual to these.

kayveeh · #3 (**permalink**) 24th April 2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacob

Hey again Kayveeh.
Your first point does indeed have some relevance (if I have understood it correctly), for example, two of the most abundant constituents of Sepia, are Phosphorus, and Nat. Mur, and Sepia does indeed share some of these two remedies indications. They both, of course, also antidote this remedy.

Regarding your second point, I'm afraid I didn't understand your meaning at all, explain.

-Jacob.

I think, in view of "like cure likes" and isopathical effects, lower & higher potencies can also antidote each other. Anyway I am trying to find some specific chracteristics of plant, animal and mineral based remedies.

Whether comparatively higher potencies are needed for remedies prepared from substances of our food type source?

kayveeh · #4 (**permalink**) 25th April 2006, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob

Hello again Kayveeh, and ahh, now I understand, and yes I would agree higher potencies will anti-dote lower ones (except in very sensitive patients), and lower ones will ameliorate the aggravation caused by higher ones.

This tells us relations still exists between higher and lower potencies. What about antidoting type or "ameliorating the aggravation" type of effect by raw remedy's substance on potencies of same substance?

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As for whether or not remedies made from our foodstuffs need to be given in higher than normal potencies because of their frequent ingestion, I wouldn't have thought so. The medicinal action of a substance at even 1c is a far cry from that when given in crude form.

Does it not look quite ill-logical?

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Are you intending to use this process to control allergies, or is it merely as part of your studies into the properties of medicinals from different parts of nature?, just out of interest.

-Jacob.

I am trying to understand science of remedies?

Furthur, is it observed that remedies from plant source show "relexed condition type effects on applications wheras animal sourced contracting type of effect(compare Mag Phos and Ferrum phos respectively)?

kayveeh · #5 (**permalink**) 25th April 2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacob

Between actual POTENCIES, yes. Regarding using the crude substance to ameliorate the aggravation caused by a potency of the same substance, highly unlikely. I have actually seen this to cause MORE aggravation than anything.

Yes it is quite logical in sense, potentised remedies may be handling its accumulated crude substance isopathically.

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I have not seen this to be the case, and in fact it can be quite the opposite, using say, Arnica as an example, which causes much 'contraction' (if I have understood your use of these terms correctly).

-Jacob.

It also looks correct. Whether Arnica and Ferrum phos have some relations?

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