I would like at the outset to state that I respect the critical views that you have all expressed individually about the method that I have used for some years in treating patients who consult me both personally and on the forums.

I believe that some of you have criticized me as I do not always conform to the tenets of Homeopathic prescribing and use Homeopathic remedies in the manner that a MD would use a drug to cure or help a patient to overcome his ailment.

I would like to emphasize that I have no diploma or other qualification to prescribe Homeopathic remedies to anyone but I have done so for many years as I am impelled to share my own findings in the use of remedies for ailments that are not listed in the official texts as I have discovered that many of the remedies that are commonly used in Homeopathic practice which are based on the classical method of Proving them according to certain parameters, are not always necessary to be followed in the case of some ailments which I have discovered can be treated by these remedies.

As you perhaps know already, I believe that I was the first to discover that Arnica controls Diabetes and that Nat Phos 6x reduces weight. It is true that these remedies are not effective to the extent of 100% in all cases but it is sufficient to accept that these remedies are in fact able to at least help those who use them with about 80% success.

I have noticed that many classical homeopaths have often warned me of the danger of using remedies in my own manner which is to treat the disease but I would like to place on record that to the best of my recollection the remedies that I have used have never been the cause of any negative effect to the patient who in most cases has invariably reported relief from his ailment in a short while. It gives me some vicarious satisfaction when some of them tell me that they had visited Medics, Ayurvedic physicians and also Homeopaths in the past before they met me and got a free diagnosis and treatment for their ailment which resulted in a cure after many years of suffering.

The point that I wish to make to you classical homeopaths is to consider using my own method to treat an ailment even on a short experimental basis as I can assure you that now harm will befall the patient if you do so. I am only too aware that you who have diplomas and degrees after your many years of study of this science have been regimented into a particular method of diagnosis and treatment based on the treatment of the symptom more than the disease. I would request those who doubt the efficacy of my method to please consider the many cases that I have been successful in overcoming like the following list for Arnica which I have used for many ailments that were never recorded by the Homeopathic giants and will I hope be experimented by those who would care to do so, especially if they have the necessary facilities for doing so.

WOUNDS 30c
Arnica 30c is the classical remedy to help cure wounds.

GENERAL TONIC IN DAILY USE 30c
I have used Arnica 30c which I discovered was better than the 6c for the last 10 years every night or more often in the case of need like after surgery. I believe that I owe to it my sense of wellness. I do not have any ache or pain in my body and I have proved that it is to Arnica that I owe my BP 120/80 with pulse 65 at age 76. I invite others to use it and to record their response to this remedy.

SUBSTITUTE FOR MORPHINE POST MAJOR SURGERY 200c and 30c
I have used this myself after my Retropubic Prostatectomy and can confidently recommend it for use after any major surgery. When I regained consciousness I noticed the Morphine syringe attached to the IV line and promptly ordered it removed to the consternation of the nursing staff and the surgeon, who warned me that I could even suffer from a major shock due to the pain without the morphine. I stated that I will use my Arnica alone to control the pain and they were very surprised to note that I was relatively free of pain after a few hours. I was able to leave my bed on the third day without any pain medication except for the Arnica I used every 2 hours at first and every 3 hours later. I was discharged on the 5th day and walked to my car. They were all amazed at my extremely quick recovery at 73 years.

EASES URINE FLOW CAUSED BY BPH 30c Wet Dose
I used Sabal S 6c when I discovered that I was allergic to Hytrin that was prescribed for my BPH. I changed over to Sabal S and Conium but discovered when I used Arnica for a slight wound that it was far superior to the other remedies I used for BPH and I stayed with it from 1996 up to today.

HELPS TO CONTROL INCONTINENCE AFTER TURP 30c
It amazes me how this remedy that I have given over 20 patients who were suffering from the after effects of the TURP (trans urethral resection of the prostate) surgery who were incontinent due to some misadventure on the part of the Uro who had obviously damaged the sphincter muscle in the neck of the bladder. Arnica gave more time between visits to the toilet and in many cases it stabilized the incontinence in a few months. Others use it on a twice daily basis. Always in the water dose.

JET LAG 30c
I have used it for many years on every overseas trip. Dosage is 1 teaspoonful taken 3 times on the day before departure. Dry doses to be taken every 3 hours on board and 3 times on the day after arrival.

LACK OF MOTOR FUNCTION OF EXTREMITIES IN 82 YEAR OLD 1M Wet Dose
The patient gradually lost motor control of his hands and feet for about a year and was confined to either his bed or a chair where he was placed by his children. Drugs that were prescribed were not effective. This case was referred to me and my response was an act of faith on my part in giving him Arnica 1M which I gave him in the water dose. He was completely cured in 2 months. The dosage used was 1 teaspoonful (capful) twice daily. He is now quite mobile and does not use the remedy any more.

MENTAL DEGENERATION IN THE AGED 1M
I used Arnica 1M dose 1 tsp daily in the case of a 75 year old who was showing signs of Alzheimer's and he showed perceptible improvement in 2 weeks which was continued thereafter. He is now permanently on the Arnica. Dose 1 tsp daily.

CHRONIC ACHES AND PAINS 30c
I have used it very often when the patient complains of general body pain (not arthritic). It is also useful for chronic back pain due to previous injuries. Sciatica is also helped by a twice daily dose.

INSOMNIA 30c
Almost everyone who has taken 1 teaspoonful of this remedy in the water dose prior to sleep has noticed the deep unbroken sleep that they experienced during the night. They wake up quite refreshed with a zing in their steps.

ECZEMA 6c
I have used it in over 30 cases some of which were chronic for over 10 years and within a week, the patient is usually cured. The success rate is better that 80%. I recommend that the remedy is continued but those who did not do so after about 3 months do not use it anymore and can be considered permanently cured. The skin condition after this time resembles Vitiligo especially in the chronic cases which had eroded the melanin in the skin which does not regenerate but there is no discomfort or itchiness.

CELLULITIS 30c
I first used this remedy for a 78 year old lady who was suffering from recurrent reinfection of her legs. She had been to hospital every 6 months on 3 occasions for about a week each time where she was treated with the most powerful antibiotics which left her drained out like a rag. When she came out on the last occasion I gave her Arnica 30c in the water dose and she takes 1 teaspoonful before sleep. She was also an insomniac and now enjoys deep sleep and for the last 2 years she has not suffered from any reinfection from her Cellulitis. I have also used it for 3 other patients also in the same age group who had been hospitalized at least twice before in each case and they do not have any reinfection after many months or years. The Arnica seems to help by increasing the blood flow in the capillaries under the skin which in turn prevents reinfection. They have however to be on one dose of Arnica permanently.

PROMOTES GROWTH OF HAIR 30c
I would refer to the many posts on the ABC forum where I have been advocating the use of Arnica 6c for hair growth. The success rate has been better than 80%. I use Weisbaden 200c for the stubborn cases which is taken every other day.

ANGINA 200c
Many who were using Nitroglycerine on a SOS basis have been helped by the Arnica 200c which was used also on a SOS basis. For daily use as a prophylactic the patient uses Arnica 30c twice daily and is not affected by the angina any more. It is however important that the patient has his condition checked regularly.

CHRONIC HEADACHE 30c
I used Arnica in many cases that were not reacting to Bryonia 30 which is my default remedy for headaches and it worked well.

INTERNAL HAEMORRHAGE IN A HAEMOPHILIAC 30c
I am treating a boy who is now 6 years for the last 3 years who is a Haemophiliac with Arnica 30c for internal bleeding when he suffers from any fall or bump which causes a swelling and pain usually on his joints. The Arnica helps to dissipate the blood and reduces the swelling. I use Lachesis 200c for open cuts which bleed profusely and this arrests the bleeding in about 15 minutes. Prior to this therapy the boy had to be rushed to hospital for a drip with every fall or cut.

PIMPLES, ACNE, BLEPHARITIS, ROSACEA, STYES 30c
Hundreds of teenagers have benefited by the use of Arnica 30c. I can vouch personally for its efficacy to control styes which I used to get weekly with painful results.

BED SORES 30c
Prevents their formation.

NOSE BLEED 200c
The ultimate remedy.

RHEUMATISM AND GOUT 30c
I believe that it helps to dissipate the swelling of the synovial fluid which causes pain. I treat the Arthritis with Rhus Tox 1M and Hypericum 200c to alleviate the pain both taken in the water dose.

ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION 6c
I have many patients who have certified that it works like a charm !

TONSILLITIS 30c
Helps to alleviate the swelling and pain. This remedy is only effective as soon as the tonsils show signs of discomfort. Chronic cases have to be treated with an antibiotic. This remedy controls the formation of Tonsiloliths but it has to be taken on a daily basis to be effective in this control.

DIABETES 30c
I consider that this is easily my most important discovery which I made quite accidentally a year ago when I gave Arnica 30c to a MD who was a Type I Diabetic to help cure a chronic non healing wound. He informed me on the day after he took 2 doses that his Blood Sugar had dropped drastically and refused to use it anymore as he felt that it was some mysterious medicine which he did not wish to experiment with as he was already on Insulin which he injected himself 4 times daily. I then gave this remedy to two Type II Diabetics and discovered that they had the same reaction when their BS dropped considerably similar to the drop caused by Metformin. I then prescribed 1/4 teaspoonful Cinnamon powder to be used twice daily and have 2 patients who are able to control their ailment without recourse to the standard drugs used for the control of Diabetes.

I would like to place on record that I have used Arnica every day since 1996. I can personally vouch for the fact that it is absolutely safe in daily use and can be considered a great blessing to those who use it regularly every night. Many who have met me cannot believe that I am 76 years old as they invariably estimate my age at 15 to 20 years younger than I really am. My skin does not show any signs of aging and my BP is 120/80 with pulse 65. I have no doubt that I owe my present state of wellness to Arnica.



I would not like to forget to include my discovery of Nat Phos 6x for weight reduction which I first announced to the world a year ago on the ABC and Otherhealth forums last Christmas day 2004, but I would not wish to bore you after the above list for Arnica which I would recommend you to use for your own patients who may perhaps confirm that this amazing remedy has done them some good in helping them to achieve a better quality of life than they enjoyed in the past with other drugs or Homeopathic remedies.

All I ask of you classical homeopaths is that you leave aside your prejudices about treating the disease which is the methodology that has been inculcated into you during your years of study and use my method of treating the disease, at least sometimes, when it is possible that you may surprise yourself as to how effective my method may prove to be.

I would like to stress that I have never been faced with any aggravation of any illness due to my way of treating any ailment with Homeopathic remedies by what you and others have termed "in an allopathic manner". The worst that I have noticed is that a given remedy may not help the patient and whenever this occurs, I use another remedy which in most cases effects the expected cure.

I do not see any valid reason to subscribe to the classical method adopted by all classical homeopaths to treat the symptom instead of the ailment and shall continue to do so as I have invariably been able to help the patient successfully with the remedy, and this does not imply using Arnica alone all the time.

It is after using the classical method which I now reinforce with Radar that I was disillusioned with some years ago and it was after some tentative steps in the experimental use of remedies for the treatment of the disease that I finally decided to use this method which to me seemed to be the obvious method to be used for treating patients for their many ailments. I must admit that if I do not succeed in helping anyone to overcome his ailment after a few days, I do not hesitate to call upon assistance from Radar, and my friends in Sri Lanka and overseas to help the patient. However I am glad to state that the frequency of my calling for assistance has diminished in the recent past as I seem to be able to handle the majority of cases that are referred to me locally or on the forums.

I would like to conclude by placing on record that I value the criticism and support that other qualified Homeopaths have given me on this and other forums that enables me to improve on my own method of treatment. I do not pretend to be infallible but I do resent the unfair criticism bordering on defamation that I was faced with a few weeks ago on the NCH forum which thankfully is now effectively silenced by the moderators.

I would like to state that it is the thrill of helping someone, which as you may perhaps know, I always do free of charge, and my sincere dedication to Homeopathy, that impels me to continue in my efforts to help those whom I am able to do so with my own limited knowledge of Homeopathy which I am putting to the best use at my age of 76 years and which I hope to continue to do in the years ahead for as long as I live.

Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

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Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

Joe,

I don't think there can be a problem in mentioning your observations and experiances for the consideration of homeopaths and other known people in this field, who can suitably process it as per the vailid theory. But just alike observations and experiances pls. Don't take it as a criticism or otherwise. To respect homeopathy, we should follow its theory and amend, delete and add anything with senior and experienced people's agreement of this community.

Best wishes.

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Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..S.Kh.

Dear Members, dear Joe

Homeopathy forms the basis of this discussion and of this discussion forum. Homeopathy is a method of medicines defined by their true actions brought out in provings done by healthy individuals, being prescribed on the basis of disease-symptom similitude to the established provings and applied in the most suitable manner ie. potency, repetition etc.

Joe De Livera does exactly the opposite:
No disease-symptom pictures are provided
Remedies are used which have not brought out any relevant symptoms
Remedies are used which are unproven
Claims of cures are made on face value

Further, He encourages to test medicines on the already sick and suffering, fully aware, that these tests could prolong and worsen the disease.

To leave you, I want to recall Hahnemann’s own words:

‘’There are but two principal methods of cure: the one based only on accurate observation of nature, on careful experimentation and pure experience, the homeopathic [before me never designedly used] and a second which does not do this, the heteropathic or allopathic. Each opposes the other, and only he who does not know either can hold the delusion that they can ever approach each other or even become united, OR TO MAKE HIMSELF SO RIDICULOUS AS TO PRACTISE AT ONE TIME HOMOEOPATHICALLY AT ANOTHER ALLOPATHICALLY, ACCORDING TO THE PLEASURE OF THE PATIENT; a practice which may be called criminal treason against divine homeopathy.’’

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Consultant Homeopath

I am rather new to this forum.

However, I do find these claims by Joe De Livera outrageous.

He sounds like a very dangerous person.

I dont think the experience of Joe is wrong.
Before criticising him let us think whether Arnica is meant for those diseases or not??

Can we use this medicine as per the pathological findings??

I here refer the book Physiological Materia Medica by WM.H.BURT,M.D and his classification.

Arnica belongs to Animal Group which is meant for acute and sub-acute diseases. Arnica is a short acting remedy(6-10days).

Through the cerebro-spinal nervous system,Arnica has six special centers of action such as Skin,Venous System,Muscular system,Digestive Organs,Serous Membranes and Circulation.

So his claim about curing so many patients may be true.

Although it is especially adapted to sanguine,plethoric persons with lively complexions ,most Homoeopaths use it in painful conditions of the cutis vera and subcutaneous cellurar tissue,whether traumatic or idiopathic in inflammation of the skin and cellular tissue,with extreme tenderness upon pressure(for all).

And when a patient is under coma due to accident Arnica acts well then other remedies in that case, most of the first aid personals using Homoeopathy don't see the symptoms.

That does not mean you will advise others to take one medicine(Arnica) for every disease.

But If He thinks that Arnica can cure all diseases then Hahnemann might have left a large book on Arnica and no other remedies.[There is no Arnica in Chronic Disease-by Dr.Samuel Hahnemann]

And using a remedy daily

needs research work,

it is not advisable to take a remedy years together,and is not Homoeopathic way of treatment.

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Dear DRSKp

We are in the privileged position that we know how to establish the database for the true actions of medicines. Already Hahnemann realized, that a remedy which has helped once in a case of x disease will not necessarily do so if the same disease is treated again. A litany of cancer cure drugs, which all failed when tried in the next case of cancer speaks for themselves.
Therefore knowledge won from clinical cured (?) cases can never form the database for future prescription.
The scientific, the homeopathic way is to establish an apriory knowledge of symptoms created by the remedy. This only can form the basis to prescribe the remedy.
There is no room for speculation as in your post, -- these speculations show your adherence to allopathic procedure.
Mr burnt by suggesting such classifications was not a homeopath, as there is no such classification possible, if the principles are known and followed.

Every remedy well proven could be curative in every case, depending on the individual disease-symptom complex.

Another aspect, which seems to be forgotten, is that remedies are applied in combinations in all these cases declared ''cured''. it is well known, that combinations of remedies are unpredictable, because its not as simple as adding the symptoms of two provings, in order to have a reliable database.
Combinations have to be proven in the very combination to know the full extent of the symptoms they can cure.

And last not least: There are three things which can happen after a remedy is applied: CURE, NOTHING, SUPRESSION.

As homeopaths we can call it a CURE, if the symptoms which disappeared under the remedial influence of the medication are symptoms brought out in the proving of the remedy + independent improvement signs are present
We can call it a NOTHING if the symptoms which disappeared were not part of the proving protocol. In this case the life-force has overcome the illness itself, as in so many cases of acute nature
We can call it a SUPRESSION, if none of the previous two scenarios are observed, and there are no independent improvement signs.

All palliation is suppression ultimately, -- and can never be called a CURE
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Consultant Homeopath

Btw, In view of above, what one can find out, whether Joe style is valid or not?

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that's right hans w. well said.

however, I am not criticizing joe.

What joe said is his personal experience.He has been criticized many times by many readers.Though you cannot find his observations any whare in any materia medica but still he is trying to convince avery body of his observations.I think we should try that and then we can inform about their uselessness.

sajjad.

I am copying a post that I have just made on the Hpathy forum in response to that of Gina Tyler, a senior Homeopath which will I hope will serve to answer many of the posts that homeopaths of the classical school have made upbraiding me which I believe will be of general interest to all who have done so:


G Tyler wrote:
Dear Joe


I agree with all that have posted to your last comment but one thing to
add myself;


I can see you have a giant caring heart of gold,you give freely of your
'limited ' knowledge what ever that might be. Yes i understand well to see
a person suffer so much and this person cannot afford to go to an MD for
full casetaking,you offer your help free of charge ,that is comendable,it
shows you help out of 'love and care,compasion'. But one must further
your study of homeopathic principles,this will help even more,your
passion is obvious joe.


I come from the lonely place of a 'volunteer homeopath',there are only
a handfull on this entire planet that are willing to do homeopathy for free
to help the poor that cannot pay.I do
understand.................................your motives.


Gina Tyler






Dear Gina,

I have just seen your post and felt that I must thank you for your support
of my attitude to Homeopathy.

I believe that you would have noticed that all I seek to do is to use the
time that I have at my disposal from my official duties as the CEO of our
business organization, to help those who post on the 4 Homeopathic
forums that I visit on a daily basis. I also spend some time with patients
who call for assistance at my residence and I find that the number is
gradually increasing as I treat all free of charge.

As you would have seen from the many comments that were posted on
the thread that I posted on 3 forums entitled "To all classical homeopaths
who have criticized me" I seem to have roused up a hornet's nest which
very few other homeopaths who visit these forums would dare to do. I did
so as I felt that it was time that I showed the homeopathic world what
they have so far missed in not using my own method of diagnosis and
treatment which to my surprise I find, is the method that is used by the
majority of homeopaths in our sub continent. It is only the 'classical'
types that refuse to see the proverbial wood for the trees, and I believe
that I am not far wrong in voicing the suspicion that I have been having
for some time, that their "Holier than Thou" attitude is prompted by the
fact that these classical types, by virtue of their keeping up this
"mysterious" aspect of homeopathic diagnosis and treatment which those
who have made the grade in Homeopathy and built up their practice do
so, as they fear that persons like me who try to help anyone who posts
on the forums out of a sense of service, free of charge, would divert their
patients thereby causing some loss of revenue to themselves. They then
resort to the scathing criticism that you would have noticed they have
mounted against me in the hope that I will get fed up and leave of my
own accord or on the other hand they perhaps look forward to my being
banned from some of these forums which, I believe can happen, except
for the ABC where I feel very welcome. I also believe that they resent the
successful case records that I have recorded of my experience with
Arnica and a few other remedies which I have specialized in using.

My question to these classical homeopaths who delight in criticizing me
is: "Why do you not at least consider that there may be some benefit that
you can give your own patients by following my example and prescribe
for the ailment and not only for the symptoms ?" I have done my bit in
openly recording my experience in using Arnica for the control of
Diabetes, Eczema, Cellulitis, Eases Urine flow caused by BPH, Control
Incontinence, Overcomes Jet Lag and many other ailments which I have
listed in my article on the forums. It is indeed a shame that all they have
done so far except for you Gina alone, is to criticize me. I must admit that
I did expect this criticism but when one of those exalted types indicated
that my records were outrageous and called me a DANGEROUS MAN, I
must admit that this did anger me. This pompous fool seemed to equate
me with some form of dangerous chain poisoner who used Homeopathic
remedies to aid him in his nefarious work . I have not encountered this
individual on any forum ever before and I condemn his audacity to call me
a Dangerous Man ! It is precisely this pompous attitude that I am sick
and tired of reading about when it comes from people who are here today
and gone tomorrow.

I am gratified to note that you have followed my many posts on the
forums and commented on the attitude that I have displayed to help
anyone whom I feel I can. It really amazes me to note that only a very few
of those who are quick to attack and criticize me show their own
expertise in their one upmanship against me, and put their money where
their mouth is and spend their time more usefully by prescribing for even
one ailment posted by a sick person. Their attitude of not helping is
symptomatic of their attitude where they feel that their presence on the
forum is only good enough to criticize me but not to help suffering
humanity.

You have suggested that I further my studies of Homeopathic principles
but I do not have the time today to do so. I do however keep abreast of
homeopathic matters on the web which I believe is more useful today
than only reading and memorizing the classical texts. I would like to
confirm that I can also prescribe in the classical tradition if I so choose to
do so with assistance from my Radar 9.1 software which I can use to
equate the diagnosis and treatment that any one of the classical types can
offer if they choose to do so. However I have discovered that the remedies
that are suggested by this software have not always helped me to
alleviate the ailment of my patients and it was only when I used my
default remedy for the respective ailment, that a positive response was
evoked from the patient.

I have proved beyond doubt that in spite of this criticism that I have been
subjected to, I have achieved some unprecedented success in the
treatment of difficult cases like that of Rahul, the 21 year old boy whose
parents were desperate for a cure to bring him back to life after 2 months
in a coma and I had the courage to suggest Arnica 1M which helped to
wake him up in a week. He is reported now after about 16 weeks after his
accident to be talking and complaining of pain in his head. The other case
that I really enjoyed getting involved in was that of another old man of
82 years who had lost all motor control in his extremities, and I was able
to return him back to normal life again with Arnica 1M in about 2 months.

It is interesting that no other homeopath dared to suggest a remedy for
these cases and I had the greatest satisfaction in helping these patients
who may perhaps not have come back to normal life if I did not suggest
my favourite remedy Arnica, for which I am not any more surprised
whenever it brings forth another miracle cure.

I am confident that my method of diagnosis and treatment of the ailment
and not the symptoms will eventually be found to be the more logical
approach which future homeopaths hopefully will follow after they have
been relieved of the brain washing that they have received during their
studies. It is just this pretense of the Holier than Thou attitude that
irritates me especially when those who pontificate about the danger of my
method, which according to them only results in the suppression of the
ailment and not the cure, know fully well that my method of treating the
ailment is practiced by the large majority of practicing homeopaths
throughout the sub continent.

I am glad that you count me among the handful of "volunteer
Homeopaths" who are willing to help others with our own concept of
Homeopathy, free of charge. I would like to add that I am impelled to do
so as I have ample proof that although the majority of the classical school
of homeopaths choose to deride me and my efforts to help humanity, the
good God has accepted my role in doing so and has blessed me with a
level of wellness which many who are 25 years junior to me envy. I believe
that it is my duty to give thanks to this Supreme Being by helping
suffering humanity to the best of my ability, braving the taunts and jibes
that the classical school have leveled at me, perhaps motivated by their
insane jealousy at the success of the method that I have adopted of
healing.

I invite them all to bury the hatchet and as I stated above put their money
where their mouth is, and spend more time on the forums motivated by a
positive attitude to healing instead of their present negative attitude of
compelling me to waste my time in rebutting their taunts at the expense
of the time that I can devote to healing.

Warm Regards

Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

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Colombo
Sri Lanka