Joe, Your method is nothing new. It is allopathic. I don't think anyone has ever questioned your motives either. You obviously have a heart of gold - wanting to help people. I agree with Gina that you should try to further your studies so you can help people without the risk of harming. There are risks, Joe - in the method that you use.

Best wishes,
Lisa

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"The significance of a fact is measured by the capacity of the observer."
Carroll Dunham

Dear Joe, dear members

My aim is not to attack you as a person or to discredit your efforts.

Continue your own thing and put your own name under it, maybe something like the Joe-de-Livera-therapy. Many have done that before, just to mention Schuessler, or Robert Bach. The test of time will show, whether it has value.
Why trying to fit it under the umbrella of homeopathy?

Homeopathy is defined in all aspects by Hahnemann in his organon and Chronic diseases. Anyone who comes along , (as you did) promoting a one- remedy – cure- all treatment of a disease name will be confronted with scepticism, and his ideas be taken to the test; to see if they are within or without the rules and principles of homeopathy. The result was: – your form of therapy failed the test.

The choice is yours: familiarize yourself with homeopathic rules and principles, work accordingly, get the deserved results and stay in this community, or continue your own way, call it your own therapy, start your own forum without interference of ,,negativity''.

There is one thing for sure -- the rules and principles of homeopathy will not change, as much as you and others wish they would, and the Organon will not rewrite itself to suit each and every allopath.

So -- good luck to yourself, whichever your choice may be.

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Hans Weitbrecht
Consultant Homeopath

That seems like an unreasonable accusation against the homeopaths on the forum.

It is hard to believe that anyone's paid practice patients are being diverted by anything on this forum, whether posted by Joe or otherwise.

And I didn't realize that anyone was being paid for contributions to this forum. ????

Nor does it seem to be true that Joe is the only one who tries to help others here.

Oh well, "what-eh -ver" as the kids say.

How delightful it is to have happened upon this particular page, in which Joe De Livera so clearly demonstrates his deep commitment to the validity of the effects of homeopathic remedies. I would like to communicate with him and so will make this posting today, June 15, 2008, and hope that he responds.

Dear Joe,
Your compassion for people is uplifting to see, and I wish you all the best in your continued work to let people know about the greater reality that homeopathy allows us to discover. The recommendations that you make, and your observations that you report, all show me that you have the ability (but perhaps not the time) to understand the greater system of care that Dr. Hahnemann was using by the time he finished his life on earth. With the recent translation of his work, that shows errors in earlier translations of his writings, and with the wider access to his case notes (he had instructed his wife, Melanie, to hide them), humanity now has access to the greater vision that he had been attempting to pass on to those who studied with him or who had previously studied with him but abandoned him when his work became too broad for them to grasp.

The writings and the teachings of Hahnemann are now available through The Hahnemann College for Heilkunst and Homeopathy, whose link is: Hahnemann Center, College and Clinic for Heilkunst. The course of study at that excellent institution will allow you, Joe, to both validate your experience and show you a system that explains why your recommendations often bring degrees of relief and also why sometimes they do not.

As I describe it, what Dr. Hahnemann gave to us is the fact that life is simultaneously substance and energy. About 100 years after Hahnemann's discovery, Dr. Einstein gave us the equation that describes what S.H. had discovered: E equals mc-squared. In addition, the analogy of the computer was not possible for him; he could have described the Chronic Miasms as being inimical human biocomputer viruses that invade and distort the processing of information within the human organism.

You are someone of an observant mind who has both grasped the fact that homeopathic remedies do cause responses in humans, and also that these responses can be understood as the outworkings of an unseen system of energies that are behind the outer physical form of the person.

My wish is that you have many years left in your life in which you could learn how to organize the many findings that you have made as a result of your correspondences with people who have taken remedies at your suggestion. I will not attack you for your work which is beyond the boundaries imposed by "classical homeopaths," because your successes should cause all to step back and ask why have these recommendations brought such dramatic improvements?

You seem to me to be an example of someone who would be able to rapidly assimilate the explanations of Hahnemann's work that are available in the various academic programs at Hahnemann Center, College and Clinic for Heilkunst.

I could communicate more, however, you may have retired from writing because the last post was dated some years ago. I will close this and wish you all the best.
Ralph Wilson
Washington DC

Instead of judging Joe De Livera's findings with some ready-made conclusions, one must experiment with his findings without any judgment, prejudice or ready made conclusion.

All classical homeopaths are not immortal either, they too get sick, they too die. They too have equal share of diseases and treatment as any other human being using any other system of medicine. If Joe's system is called Joepathy.

Ralph's post sounds as if he is suggesting that Joe needs further education.

Murthy

Ralph implies:

Either as perfect as myself or no-deal.

Joes article was discussed earlier also.I agree method is not truly classical .But I did use same Arnica in different condition in Joes way much before reading Joes cases .WONDERFUL RESULTS. Arnica after
tooth extraction hardly 2-4 doses in 30 potency avoided lot of pain killers and anibiotics .Is it not waste of time in going through eloborate case taking etc in simple condition?
Daily dose of Arnica 6th potency in Cardiac patient made his life comfortable which was not possible with much lot of medicines by Cardiologist .Like many cases I also can quote.
I agree classical way of prescription is always desirable but in many conditions ,rather in incurable conditions and if we have to help patient along with allopathic medicine and where palliation is only alternative ,methods other than classical also are valuable .
I always try to follow classical method in most of curable cases.It is my experience that Classical method is not always effective .
Persons who cry foul with other methods ,in my openion are not much clinically oriented . Patient is more important than method .What ever U do in intrest of patient is OK

Ramachandra,
Hyderabad,INDIA

i am not entirely against joe.His approach is easy backed by his personal experiments.Indications are not always available and supported by Homeopathic Materia medica but he invites everybody to judge and confirm his findings .It is the personal choice of the user.

You are wrong in saying that classical method is not effective in every case.The only requirement of Homeopathy is the selection of the reght medicine.

sajjad.

i am a senior homeopathic practioner with 17 years of practice.i have found recentlly the joes experiance on diabetes and eigt loss.
Joes has found accidental discoveries which he found very effective.he asked the other practitioners to try out those remedies.as the hahnemann said in his organon of medicine that physicician should be an unprejudiced observer.let us view her discovery in an unprejudiced way but not with fixed thoughts.you know there are various schools of homeopathy some prescribing only on pathological basis(dr.hughes).
homeopathy is based on provings that happened in 19th and early 20th centuries.it is based on symptoms.emphasis is not given on clinical and laboratory findings because pathology is at infancy at that time.
may be arnica which he is saying effective in reducing blood sugar levels might have come in the prover but not found out as there is no means to check the blood sugar levels at that time.
it is a time to go for reproving of most of the polycrests again considering the environmental changes,stress factor,new health concerns.
reproving of some of the remedies is done by o.a.Julian.(julian hom M.M).if we see some of trhe reprovings to the utter surprise some of the symptoms of the old materia medica are not present.he has included clinical pathological and laboratory findings which will be more helpful for modern homeopath.
DR.M.VIDYUT KUMAR,
BHMS,MD
HYDERABAD
INDIA