Dear Lisa,

I note that you have taken exception to my suggesting Arnica for Back ache which was posted by Iceman who stated that he was using the 30x and the 200c for his back problem from which he had been suffering from for some years with no success.

As you are perhaps aware, I prefer to use my own method of prescribing a remedy which is now referred to by others as a "This for That" method. The reason for my doing so is that I have discovered that even with the added advantage of using Radar 9.1 on my computer, I often find that the remedies that are suggested after a long process of questioning the patient for an ailment do not include Arnica which was my remedy of choice as in this case.


I note that you have stated as follows:
"Joe, Please refrain from prescribing Arnica like this on this site, unless you take the necessary steps required to come to a homeopathic remedy choice."

I have successfully helped patients who had chronic back injuries with Arnica in the past and it seemed to me to be obvious that I should extend this same advice to Iceman who was looking for a cure for his back injury which too was chronic and for which he had already used Arnica but in potencies that did not help. I notice that he has done a great service to Arnica today by digging up many old posts from your archives which only serve to show what a truly Miraculous Remedy Arnica is. I was convinced that he could also benefit from the same remedy that I had used for many others who had similar symptoms which were resolved successfully.

I am copying below this post from "cruthbh" which was made by him a few months ago on your forum where he confirmed that a back injury that he had suffered from for 50 years had reacted positively to Arnica within a few weeks.


4th August 2005, 07:14 PM
cruthbh


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I have not posted on this forum before, but I have been reading about Arnica and I am so confused about the controvercy!?
All through life there are things that are discovered...uses for things that none of us imagined. I would hate to think of what life would be today if there weren't those that told us of a new discovery or use for something?
The sad thing is that in past history, the person that does discover things is ridiculed or worse...only to find out years later when we read in history books of this person,.. and the accomplishments he or she made to society.

Arnica is wonderful....I take the wet dose before bedtime each night. It has helped me! I have noticed nothing but improvements in my health since taking it for over a month now. I have old injuries that I have been nursing along for 50 years...never thinking that I could still be helped with something so simple as taking Arnica. But what else can I think helped me, being that is the only thing I have taken different than I had been taking?
I have had enough years of trying to help myself...to know when something is working! No naysayers are going to discourage me from what I know is a success!!
The people on here that are trying to silence a 'pioneer' are just giving a lot of material for a 'great screen play' in the making. I have already got the plot and the 'Watership Down' type characters in the script in my head.
Take a look at what is being said here....the critical things actually sound very silly to me. How did homeopathy start...by a man that was well recieved and no one ever was critical of him!? I don't think so! Has there never been a breakthrough in anything after Homeopathy was set in stone!?
I am a firm believer in exploration and new ideas.
Way to go Joe!! Keep up the great work!!! Ignore the 'characters' in this play.


I am aware that the method of diagnosis and treatment that I use do not always coincide with that adopted by other qualified homeopaths who post on this forum. However as long as this forum is open to others, some of whom also use my own method of treatment, which in almost all instances has resulted in a cure of the ailment posted by the patient, I shall leave it to you to decide whether or not you will permit me to continue to help those who seek assistance in the cure of their ailments when they post on this forum in the manner that I have done so far. I have been at the receiving end of a lot of flak from other members of your forum who were critical of my method of diagnosis and prescription and I had imagined that I had successfully overcome the objections after a long debate and I would refer you to these posts in your archives for further reading if you have not already read them. If you do not wish me to post, you are free to advise me and I shall reluctantly withdraw from your forum permanently and leave it for the exclusive use of the qualified "classical" homeopaths to whom Homeopathy is more in the nature of a religion from which no deviation is permitted under pain of excommunication.

I would suggest that you visit the ABChomeopathy forum to read the posts of many patients who seek my assistance and my responses to them. I may also mention here that the reason why I am dedicated to helping anyone in distress who posts on your forum and on the ABC forum is because I feel that at my age of 76 my contribution towards helping those who seek my assistance on these forums and those who contact me by direct email and also those who do so by visiting me personally in Colombo are secure in the knowledge that I do so to the best of my ability. I believe that by doing so I create some happiness by alleviating the pain and suffering of those who post , especially those babies and children whose condition has been made infinitely worse by drugs, especially steroids, which were prescribed by their doctors in the past which only served to maim them for life. It is those patients who react positively to the remedies that I have prescribed, that make my life worth living today.

You may like to know that I have recently added to my list of 'discoveries' of new uses for Homeopathic remedies. I discovered that Arnica 30c helps to reduce Blood Sugar and tests are ongoing today in 2 Homeopathic hospitals in India who have reported that they have been able to replicate my own findings and that when used with Cinnamon which too I suggested, some patients have been able to stop their dependence on drugs such as Metformin and are able to use these 2 remedies instead. As far as I know this unusual response of Diabetics to Arnica has not been observed so far and this is another 'discovery' that I have been able to make using my own methods of diagnosis and treatment with Homeopathic Remedies.

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Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

Well Joe I for one think it's great that you try to help people with their problems. You must be a very caring person. We need more people like you in this world. Your thoughts are always greatly welcomed and appreciated.

Karma is a strong thing in this world I believe, and you should have some good Karma in return in your life, if not this one, then the next one.

Thank you for your kind thoughts and support.

I am concerned that some classical homeopaths who read my posts seem annoyed that I do not subscribe to their own methods of diagnosis and treatment. I have explained in my last post my findings in using the classical method which I can do as well as they can with Radar. I believe however that this software lacks the human touch which I believe is necessary to identify a remedy and it is only very rarely that a remedy that I suggest without the assistance of Radar, fails to help. Whenever I am faced with a difficult case I still do use Radar but this is so time consuming usually that one cannot use the software for every case.

I checked your profile and discovered that you are a Wrestler. I presume that you injured your back during a bout and I presume that you do not indulge in your sport today as it is obvious that your back must be rested completely as drugs which I presume you may have taken in the past and Homeopathic remedies which you may take in the future cannot help you till you help your back to recover from the damage that it has sustained.

A hard bed is also useful as are exercises designed to relieve the pain and help in the recovery process for which you will have to consult specialists and abide by their advice without of course using the drugs that they may prescribe which usually are analgesics.

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Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

I agree; all softwares do. They work mechanically, without human touch which is extremely important in treating a human being. I believe that homeopathy cannot proceed successfully without human feelings.

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Akram
Homeopathy
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Dear Joe, I have never doubted that your intentions are based solely on helping people.
And, I was not suggesting that in order to come to a prescription - one must use Radar (or any software programme).
What I was saying is: if one prescribes here - one needs to take the symptoms into account and then come to a remedy suggestion. Not prescribe on disease names/conditions or single symptoms. e.g. arnica for backache; arnica for sleep loss; nat phos for weight loss,etc.

Anyone making these claims (which are unsubstantiated) make it sound like homeopathy is easier than it is (especially to those who know little to nothing about it). Simply put - prescriptions like these are not homeopathic (unless one hits it lucky from time to time).

Sincerely,
Lisa

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Carroll Dunham

Dear Lisa,

I do appreciate your viewpoint which I believe is based on your own classical training. As you are perhaps aware, I have never been to any homeopathic college and do not possess any diplomas. As a result I have a certain advantage in the ability to think differently from the classical school as all the information that I have accumulated is from my own wide library of books on the subject, the experience I have accumulated through 30 years of involvement in Homeopathy, and since recently with Radar. I have also been fortunate in being closely associated with Dr Luc de Schepper when he was in Sri Lanka last April for a few weeks to help the survivors of the Tsunami and owe to him my conversion from the dry dose I used of the remedy in lactose globules in common with other homeopaths throughout the world, to the Split Dose which I am convinced works far more effectively than the dry.

The point that I wish to make is that it is not essential to stick only to the classical formula that you are advocating for the treatment of an ailment. You have also quoted my other uses for Arnica for Sleep loss (Insomnia) and Nat Phos (6x only) for Weight loss as examples which I believe you feel are just remedies that only accidentally have helped people who suffer from these ailments through sheer luck. I do accept that luck did play an important role in my original observation that Nat Phos 6x which I had prescribed for GERD also helped in weight reduction. In the case of Arnica however I have experimented with it and discovered that it indeed does help in the two uses you have quoted and can be replicated by others who may choose to use them. I have also recently discovered that it is effective for the control of Diabetes in the same manner that drugs prescribed control this ailment. I have had instances where the patient has been able to stop dependence on drugs like Metformin and only use Arnica in combination with 1/4 teaspoonful of Cinnamon used twice daily in food.

In the case of Nat Phos I discovered that this remedy, when used for weight reduction with other patients, showed promise and I observed that while it could be used for GERD, its more important usage was for weight reduction for which Billions have, and are even now being expended, in the quest for a drug to be used for weight reduction. It is remarkable that although I have given wide publicity to my discovery in your forum and on another, the medical fraternity and the media are just not interested in giving the publicity that this simple and safe remedy deserves which can make such a great impact in helping to reduce Obesity in the developed world where in the US alone it is officially accepted at over 65%.

I am convinced that Homeopathic remedies can also be used in the manner that I am now using them, on the "This for That" basis, which I agree is more allopathic than homeopathic in its concept. I do realize that classical homeopaths like you and others on this forum frown on my method but the fact remains that I have proof of the efficacy of these remedies to show that my method also works. I have shared with others on this forum numerous other uses for which I have discovered that Arnica is an effective remedy. I am aware that my discovery of Nat Phos 6x for weight reduction is now being used by thousands throughout the world and what is more is, according to reports that I have received, also being used commercially in Health Farms with success.

I note that you mentioned that you feel that these claims about these 2 remedies are unsubstantiated merely because it was I that first discovered these results which I consider are amazing in spite of the fact that they are not listed in the classical MM's and Reps currently in use. I would remind you that Hahnemann and his friends were responsible for discovering the response of various remedies which they proved on themselves originally and whilst I do not claim this same sense of dedication and greatness, I still have a sense of deep satisfaction that I was, as far as I know, the first to discover and record the efficacy of Nat Phos 6x for weight reduction and the many varied uses of Arnica for many ailments which I have shared with others on this and on another forum. The mere fact that any remedy is not listed in the MM's and Reps does not necessarily preclude it from being used for the cure of any ailment after its use has been verified in the past by the person who first discovered its efficacy especially when this usage can be replicated by others. You will no doubt realize that it is through this process of usage that any specific remedy can progress for the alleviation of ailments. It is my fervent hope that the ailments that I have used at least these 2 remedies Nat Phos 6x and Arnica may perhaps be listed at some time in future editions of Homeopathic Texts.

I can assure you that the use of Homeopathic remedies is not quite as complicated as it is usually made out to be and this is the reason why I invariably prefer to use the direct approach. In this case I was not by any means only using the "disease name/condition" as suggested by you. Iceman had clearly spelt out his problem and I had in fact taken the totality of his symptoms into account when I prescribed Arnica 30. I do count on the experience of 30 years that I have in the use of Homeopathic remedies and I believe it is this inborn instinct that I seem to be blessed with in the diagnosis and treatment of an ailment that make at least some people who seek my assistance, amazed at my ability to help them when others, and this also includes homeopaths, have failed and I have sometimes been labeled as a Miracle Man !

I suggested Arnica for Iceman's Back ache because I had recently used it successfully for another chronic back ache which a patient had been suffering from for I believe, 50 years which miraculously was cured in a few days. I have also had others that were not reacting positively to the standard remedies suddenly reacting to Arnica, and it is no wonder that I consider it my Miracle Remedy.

It is possible that in Iceman's case too, Arnica can help him as it helped so many but he will first have to use it for a few days and then discover whether or not it can help him before we jump to conclusions that Arnica cannot help him merely because I prescribed it in the manner that I have done. In any case I am convinced that Arnica cannot possibly do him any damage to his already sensitive back and there is every chance that it may help him to slowly alleviate his pain which he has suffered from due to his insistence on physical fitness which he must absolutely stop forthwith and rest his back. In this regard he is like my own sons one of whom runs 50km weekly on an almost daily basis of 10km, while the other insists on hefting weights up to 225 pounds and other torturous exercises in his gym also almost on a daily basis.

In the case of Iceman I hope that he will use my formula of the Wet Dose with Arnica 30c for say 2 weeks and if after this time, he does not show any improvement, I shall change his prescription.

Please feel free to suggest your own remedy if you feel that mine is not suitable for his ailment.

Kind Regards

Joe

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Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

In homeopathy there are uncountable way of prescribing remedies and all methods are equally important accroding to the need and condition of the patient. Disease based prescription is very popular in India. I just read Dr. Kannan post in which he admitted that they are examining 100 patients daily in hospitals. How it could be possible? Only disease based pathy they are doing.

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Moalij
is your close friend.

Arnica can be tried even decades after the injury has taken place, and most of the time it helps.

Murthy

My experience is no different.

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Akram
Homeopathy
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