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Old 1st August 2005, 04:29 PM
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Default The vengence of the battery hen

THE CHICKEN IS FINALLY COMING HOME TO ROOST!.
C.D.C. , or the Centre For Disease Control has finally realised that you CANNOT control disease. A fact known to homeopathy since 1890. An enormously profitable billion dollar industry could go belly up, if it becomes obvious that vaccines DO NOT WORK. .
Also not mentioned, is the relationship of this “new” ´flu virus to the haemorrhagic family of viral contagions. When many chicken were slaughtered in Hong Kong , the contents of the corpses were compared to “bloody porridge” . Which relates to my contention that CELLS COUNICATE. If you set up a situation where that communication breaks down , by stress , drugs or vaccines you have a problem .
If you then have a virus that can destroy the “cell communication system” then you end up with “bloody porridge”. It would be interesting to read the confidential files of the C.D.C. !!.

Early Hepatitis B Vaccines and the “Man-Made” Origin of HIV - AIDS
by Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H.
This article regards a matter of global urgency transcending better known AIDS threats. It describes a universal challenge posed by ever increasing numbers of plagues predicted to depopulate at least half of the world’s current human inhabitants within two generations. This documented science virtually proves, through the process of elimination and a review of the most updated evidence, the origin of HIV/AIDS as an iatrogenic (i.e., man-made) outcome of specific vaccination experiments.
Considered reflection on this AIDS science, along with the sociopolitical correlates and antecedents of this current catastrophe, reveals the likelihood that myriad other immune
dysfunctions, autoimmune diseases, and cancers, including leukemias, lymphomas, sarcomas, and other ailments linked to viral infections, have resulted from previously engineered microbes that have by accident or intent found their way from cancer virus laboratories into humanity’s bloodstream by way of the most trusted public health preventative—vaccinations.

Public health officials preparing to battle what they view as an inevitable influenza pandemic say the world lacks the medical weapons to fight the disease effectively, and will not have them anytime soon.
Public health specialists and manufacturers are working frantically to develop vaccines, drugs, strategies for quarantining and treating the ill, and plans for international cooperation, but these efforts will take years. Meanwhile, the most dangerous strain of influenza to appear in decades -- the H5N1 "bird flu" in Asia -- is showing up in new populations of birds, and occasionally people, almost by the month, global health officials say.

If the virus were to start spreading in the next year, the world would have only a relative handful of doses of an experimental vaccine to defend against a disease that, history shows, could potentially kill millions. If the vaccine proved effective and every flu vaccine factory in the world started making it, the first doses would not be ready for four months. By then, the pathogen would probably be on every continent.
Theoretically, antiviral drugs could slow an outbreak and buy time. The problem is only one licensed drug, oseltamivir, appears to work against bird flu. At the moment, there is not enough stockpiled for widespread use. Nor is there a plan to deploy the small amount that exists in ways that would have the best chance of slowing the disease.
The public, conditioned to believe in the power of modern medicine, has heard little of how poorly prepared the world is to confront a flu pandemic, which is an epidemic that strikes several continents simultaneously and infects a substantial portion of the population.
Since the current wave of avian flu began sweeping through poultry in Southeast Asia more than 18 months ago, international and U.S. health authorities have been warning of the danger and trying to mobilize. Research on vaccines has accelerated and efforts to build up drug supplies are underway. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services will spend $419 million in pandemic planning this year. The National Institutes of Health's influenza research budget has quintupled in the past five years.
Despite these efforts, the world's lack of readiness to meet the threat is huge, experts say. "The only reason nobody's concerned the emperor has no clothes is that he hasn't shown up yet," Harvey V. Fineberg, president of the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine, said recently of the world's efforts to prepare for pandemic flu. "When he appears, people will see he's naked." Other scientists are sounding the alarm as well.
The most outspoken is Michael T. Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. In writing and in speeches, Osterholm reminds his audience that after public calamities, the United States usually convenes blue-ribbon commissions to pass judgment. There will be one after a flu pandemic, he believes.
In hopes of slowing a pandemic's spread, public health specialists have been debating proposals for unprecedented countermeasures. These could include vaccinating only children, who are statistically most likely to spread the contagion; mandatory closing of schools or office buildings; and imposing "snow day" quarantines on infected families -- prohibiting them from leaving their homes.

Other measures would go well beyond the conventional boundaries of public health: restricting international travel, shutting down transit systems or nationalizing supplies of critical medical equipment, such as surgical masks. But Osterholm argues that such measures would fall far short. He predicts that a pandemic would cause widespread shutdowns of factories, transportation and other essential industries. To prepare, he says, authorities should identify and stockpile a list of perhaps 100 crucial products and resources that are essential to keep society functioning until the pandemic recedes and the survivors go back to work.
Since late 2003, 109 people are known to have been infected with the emerging H5N1 virus in Asia. About half -- 55 -- have died.
Ironically, for the current H5N1 strain of avian flu to gain "pandemic potential," it will have to become less deadly. Declining lethality is a key sign that the microbe is adapting to human hosts. That is one reason the 34 percent mortality observed in the most recent outbreak -- a cluster of cases in northern Vietnam -- has scientists worried.
Pandemics are caused by strains of virus that are highly contagious and to which people have no immunity. Such strains are rare. They arise from the chance scrambling and recombination of an animal flu virus and a human one, resulting in a strain whose molecular identity is wholly new.
In the 20th century, pandemics occurred in 1918, 1957 and 1968. Although the 19th-century record is less certain, there appear to have been four flu pandemics -- in 1833, 1836, 1847 and 1889. On a purely statistical basis, the nearly 40 years since the last one suggests the time may be ripe.
The microbe called influenza A/H5N1 appeared in East Asia in 1996 and has flared periodically since. It is highly contagious and lethal in chickens, but it can be carried without symptoms in some ducks -- a combination that helps keep it in circulation.
Birds occasionally infect humans, and scientists recently found evidence that the virus is sometimes passed person to person. That form of transmission is now difficult and rare, but the virus could evolve so that it becomes easy and common.
If H5N1 never becomes easily transmissible in human beings, it will never become a pandemic. If it does become transmissible, the consequences are difficult to imagine. But history provides some clues. The "Spanish flu" in 1918 and 1919 was the biggest and, along with AIDS, the most important infectious disease outbreak of the 20th century. It is on the short list of great disasters in human history.
At least 50 million people, and possibly as many as 100 million, died when the world's population was 1.9 billion people, one-third its current size.

Tests are underway at three U.S. hospitals on an experimental vaccine against H5N1. But it is not the first H5N1 vaccine. When a slightly different strain of the virus surfaced in Hong Kong in 1997, killing thousands of chickens and a half-dozen people, researchers used viruses from birds and people to make experimental vaccines. But neither offered much protection in lab tests, and nobody knows why.
Instead of working on the problem, researchers dropped it. First SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome), and then a different avian flu strain that arose in Europe (H7N7), took their attention.
"The urgency around this issue kind of dissipated," said John Treanor, a physician at the University of Rochester and one of the leaders of the vaccine project. "I think it's an example of how unpredictable things are. We got distracted." The urgency is back.
As the first, small hedge against disaster, the government last fall ordered 2 million doses of H5N1 vaccine from Sanofi Pasteur, one of the country's three flu vaccine makers, even though nobody yet knows whether it works.
A half-dozen other countries are also working on pandemic vaccines. But making enough to fight an outbreak is a tall order.
About 300 million flu shots are made worldwide each year. The vaccine only protects against three flu strains. If the global production capacity were directed to make only H5N1 vaccine, the output could be 900 million shots.
Unfortunately, virologists are almost certain people will need two doses about a month apart to mount a successful immune response against a wholly new strain such as H5N1. That would cut the theoretical number of recipients worldwide to 450 million. If each shot requires a larger-than-usual amount of vaccine to work, the number will be even smaller.
Can the world produce more flu shots? Not easily.
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Old 17th September 2005, 05:40 PM
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Default Avian flu remedies or preventatives

Since the possibilities of human to human transmission are increasing, is anyone in the homeopathic research community working on remedies or preventatives for the avian flu?

I certainly won't be taking any vaccines for this even if they develop them, and I would like to be prepared. Also, I just sent my son off to college in Chicago, where of course you have many people in close quarters.

I would also appreciate any input from practitioners on this BB who have looked into the symptom picture themselves and have any remedies to suggest.

Thanks.
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Dear moondancer,
Homeopaths use individual symptomology as it shows itself regards the "flue",there is no one magic homeopathic pill that deals with any flue,you are asking a allopathic question. Regards vaccines,here are many links to educate you regards the adverse reactions to the horrid toxic vaccines of our day.
www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com go to searchbox type; vaccines

www.909shot.com
www.thinktwice.com

Thanks Passkey for that post........................
Regards the AIDS controv via induced man made virus,i have known about it for a few years,but many dont or want to believe this happened.
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Dear Gina,

No, I wasn't asking for an allopathic cure.

I was asking if anyone had studied the avian flu cases at all and the progression of guiding symptoms that occurred in the victims, in order to select remedies that might fit the picture of this particular illness.

Of course in a perfect world the homeopath would visit the avian flu patient, take a thorough history, make observations, and fit the remedy to suit.

However, what I was looking for was worst-case scenario help. Like, do something or you're dead in three days kind of help, not "magic."

I'm not a homeopath, I'm just a person who believes in homeopathy. And none of my three children has ever been subjected to having vaccines injected into them. And I have been reading about the man-made creation of AIDS for the last fifteen years at least.

So anyway, does anyone have any ideas of what we are all to do if this thing goes global in four months?

Thanks,
Amy
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Dear Amy

First i would not worry about it,much of the big pharma hypes up fantom diseases just to get fear going ,the media is a big part of it,thus making people want to get a drug or vaccine for this fantom panic disease.
Homeopathy is verry capable of handling the 'flue' of various types,look at the horrid tropical fevers/flue's like dengue and malaria now were talking wide spread here.......and this has been handled via homeopathy for years now. Although allopaths still cannot get a handle on it.
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is the application of the correct constitutional remedy to each individual in order to strengthen the immune system and reduce susceptibilities.
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believe that the over medication of millions of people - at great expense has probably depressed millions of immune systems that could normally have dealt with this problem.

Trust Nature - not chemicals .
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Hi Moondancer

It was under these types of epidemic situations where homeopathy really began to shine. Hahnemann had great results using what he called the "genus epidemicus". Simply put he would take the symptoms that where common to all those who suffered from any given epidemic and then identified the most appropriate remedy based on these combined symptoms. Once the remedy that best matched the epidemic had been identified it could then be given to the masses as means of prevention. This has proven successful yet not foolproof as in homeopathy individualization is key and not all respond to all remedies. The identification of the genus epidemicus is something that is as I understand something that is done even now days. So no doubt an appropriate preventative remedy will be found for this current threat. But I am also curious to know who may be at the forefront of this quest. I know Paul Herscu from NESH does alot in this field but Im not greatly familiar with his work. IN my own rural community there are alot over very concerned people regarding this WHO info. Anyone else on genus epidemicus ?

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the doubt that ""flu"" is the correct term to apply to the problem.

In one case where there were thousands of chicken killed in Hong Kong they stated that when they cut the corpses open they found only "" bloody porridge"" .

This would point to Ebbola.

It would also point to a breakdown of the internal communication system , related to Apoptosis where cellls that lose connection to the ''internal internet"' commit suicide.

I am certain that there is more to this than meets the eye.
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Default Thanks for responding!

Thank you all, passkey for originating and commenting, Gina for answering, and Matt for saying exactly what I was trying to communicate.

I have a very busy sales job and I have not kept up with my homeopathy education the way I should. I did most of my research when I discovered homeopathy 18 years ago-after the day I took my first born son to a pediatrician for his two-week check up and he told me the "shots" would start on the next visit. I never went back. My chiropractor referred me to a homeopath and I studied a bit on my own while my kids were little. So my terminology and knowledge are a little rusty.

Anyway, thanks again Matt for helping me say what I wanted to say, and I hope others view and contribute to this discussion.

Sincerely, Amy
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