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Old 14th May 2005, 11:33 PM
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I am 29 years old and have had asthma that has gotten increasingly worse since age 18. I also have extreme allergic reactions to dust, mold, pet dander, and pollen. Last October, I got a soar throat that lasted for a few days. My lungs became infected and I had extreme difficulty breathing. I had a fever, chills, and coughed up green mucus from my lungs. I went to a clinic and was prescribed prednisone and biaxin (antibiotic) for 10 days. I was also prescribed Advair 250/50, which is an inhaled steroid, and I took that for one month. I took the medications because I was entering respiratory failure. When I told my chiropractor, she told me this was an extremely lethal combination of drugs to take and that I should never do this again. I became more conscious of my health, rested more, got more excercise and quit smoking (in october). In february, I got a flu which turned into an extremely painful earache. I was again prescribed antibiotics, which I took because the pain was so extreme. My earache went away but I think I'v ehad a Candida overgrowth from all this antibiotic taking.
Last week, I had some abdominal pain after eating, and then I got a severe soar throat. The infection again entered my lungs, causing extreme difficulty in breathing, fever, chills, coughing that produced green sputum, shortness of breath, and fatigue from even climbing a flight of stairs or walking around the house. I went to the clinic where I was again prescribed prednisone (starting with 40 mg the first day, then down in 5 mg increments each day for seven days) and Biaxin. I told the doctor I didn't want to take prednisone again, especially with the antibiotics, and she told me this was the only way to avoid respiratory failure. She sent me to the ER where I had an albuterol therapy treatment and was seen by an ER doctor who prescribed the same prednisone/antibiotic mix. when I told him I didnt' want to take this, he told me the same thing - that I had no choice, and that this was the only way to not go into respiratory failure. So two days ago I started taking the prednisone, and slowly it has helped my lungs to minimally function. I was prescribed 1000 mg of Biaxin/day. I took 1 500 mg Biaxin two days ago, and 1 500 mg Biaxin yesterday but I now feel like I shouldn't be taking the antibiotic and want to stop. Is it ok to stop taking the antibiotic once I've started? Is there a homeopathic remedy that will work just as well in fighting the infection? My Doctor tells me I must take what I was prescribed, my chiropractor tells me I must not. Also, is it ok to take DHEA and other immuno-supportive remedies when on prednisone?
Sorry for the long post but I am scared and confused.

Re: chronic lung infection - help! From passkey on 2005-05-15
I would be scared too!

This should posted all over the net as an example of the problems that are caused by allopathic medication.

THe problem with Asthma is , that its the result of a damaged immune system -- whatever provokes the attack -- the problem is still a damaged immune system .

Probably down to vaccinations as a child -- over which this man probably had no control.

Cortico steroids [prednisone ] are suppressant that drives problems deep into the body -- it is addictive [like nicotine or cocaine] and homeopathic remedies are of difficult and limited use.

It also points up the absolute opposition between orthodox and homeopathic medicine.One heals the other kills.

This man deserves the best possible help that anyone in contact with the site can provide!.

my advice STOP TAKING THE ANTIBIOTICS!. Steroids are more difficult but cut them down to a point that you can tolerate.

Get a thick paperback book -- Health Doctor by A. Vogel , it will clue you in on the best diets etc.

In the meantime --

are you -- tidy/untidy
hot/cold feet in bed
Like salt , better at seaside
any warts or moles
skin tans easily?
red/auburn hair
eczema dry skin
what did the last 4/5 generations of your family die of?

try to stay calm -- easier said than done!
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Thanks for posting that story,what a frustration of horror caused by allopathy!!!!!

And yet some still go on thinking allopathy and homeopathy can work side by side

To detox this poor soul is a great start,then take little steps in the holistic direction.

Its a shame that by the time a homeopath gets a chronic ill patient such as this it is extremely difficult to reverse.

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Dear members

A topic not directly linked to homeopathic prescribing, but a lot to be said about.
I see these poor sufferers on a regular basis, as the treatment regime is pretty much the same over here in Ireland than elsewhere.
Not only is the poor patient threatened by the actual disease, he also realizes that, that after a few attempts with ATB’s and Cortizone, he is in no way better off, than before. And now he’s cut between two rocks – the doctors will say, that if their regime of treatment is not pursued, then it will have gravest consequences, and the homeopath says, if he pursues to continue the drug treatment, the side effects will kill him.

So – as practitioners of homeopathy we become part of a regime I definitely don’t want to be part off. I used to be of the opinion, that we have to advise strongly against the use of those drugs, in the best interest of the patients health. But so do the others too when they advise to ‘’not come off the drugs’’.

I used to fall into this trap many times each week – and nearly lost my license over it, because patients who got worse after coming off drugs on my strong recomendations were blaming me for the bad advice I gave and for the consequences.

Then I realized, that the matter is quite different, by stepping out of the therapist patient relationship, --- and this is the way I deal with the matter today:

It is the patient’s free will to take medication of any kind at any time. It is solely the patients responsibility to deal with whatever effects they have. I have my own opinions about certain treatments, so has the patient. This freedom of choice has to be respected. Where we can help the patient is, by information about the different treatment options, -- making him realize: There is a choice at any time.

I am also clear, under what circumstances homeopathic treatment is save, predictable in its outcome, and curative.
Before I offer treatment, (and this may be after the first consultation at the earliest), I aware the patient,
-- that taking different medications concurrently, makes the outcome of homeopathic treatment unpredictable. (this includes also other herbal- mineral-flower remedies, as well as the contraceptive pill)
-- that a certain dietarian regime is necessary, as well as a certain home environment has to be provided.
-- that in the case of previous allopathic treatment, difficulties are expectable, which may cause a certain amount of discomfort and suffering during the period of recovering while on homeopathic treatment.

I make it clear, that if the patient takes the decision to come off allopathic drugs, that this is his sole responsibility, and if there are any questions on how to come off the drugs he’s currently on, the practitioner who prescribed them is the ONE to turn to for a plan to safely come off them. Often patients report, that the practitioner is unable to tell them how to come off the medications. Then the pointer sometimes helped, to remind their practitioner, that by doing so he made the patient a drug addict and to threaten compensation for that. In other cases, with the best will they seem to be unable to come off drugs, and as much as my heart goes out to them, the past has taught me not to become part of the treatment of their current condition by homeopathic means.

Here is two stories of bowel cancer: One is a lady in her 80’ one a man in his early 40’, both ongoing.
Here is the story of the 80 year old.
She had no health problems till her late 70’ and went to a routine check for occult blood in the stools about half a year ago. There were no other signs and symptoms and much to her surprise there were traces of blood. The GP in question strongly suggested coloscopy, which showed cancer of the colon (verified by cell test samples). Then a great hurry broke out, and within days, most of the colon wa removed, an operation big enough for an 80 year old, but she recovered well. Straight after that a course of chemo therapy was applied in fairly hefty amounts, causing the usual side effects. This was the last I hear, about a month ago. Now yesterday, I got more news, that the cancer has spread to lungs and liver, and in a second operation parts of the lung has been removed, and the surgeons are hopeful to be able to remove parts of the liver, as soon as the patient has regained a bit of strength and the bloods are OK. The chemo did not have any beneficial effect. – Well, my opinion was asked at an early stage, straight after the diagnosis, but herself and the guardians decided for the conventional road.
Here is the story of the man in his mid 40’
Arrived in my place, pale lifeless haggard, a grayish hue in his face with the following history: Colitis on and off over the past 10 years, treated with suppositories. Then OP. 2 years ago – a tumour was removed from the colon . After that chemo therapy for ½ year under which another tumour organized itself. Second OP—2/3 of the colon removed, chemo. and continuous steroid application + other medication to stop the colon acting up. Presently stool frequency up to 30-40 times a day some with bloods, accompanied by ferocious abdominal pain, intolerant to all raw food, fat, alcohol, sleep disturbed, the energies very low, can only stay out of bed for a few hours/ day. His surgeon advised him to have an artificial exit and a bag for the rest of his live (anus praeter), but before doing so has to come off the Cortizone. (one of the rare occasions, where the surgeon and myself have the same idea). He got the opinions of two other oncologists, which concluded in the same way. All of them excluded chemotherapy, as the liver seems to be already badly damaged.
I concluded that I can treat him once being off the cortisone.
This was October 2004.
Patient rings early December 2005 and tells me, that he has decided to come off the cortisone, and asked me if I stand my word, treating him once he is off it for a while. (Which I did).
I started treatment on the 30-12-04 with Merc Q1(1,1/3)

05-01-05:
The abdominal pain diminished considerable, the bleeding stopped
Now lower back pain, with liver pain.
Back pain lessened, frequency still high, immediate urge once he eats a little bit, energies a bit better. Dry and itchy patches on skin/ flaky. Appetite a bit better, energies not great.
Lyc Q1 (1.1/3)

12-01-05
2-3 rotten days, today+ yesterday better feels intolerant and irritable. Was tired and down. No abdominal pain, slight pain in lower back. Bleeding still stopped.
Stoll very watery, not acidy, odour way down. Itch less, Appetite slight improvement.
Lyc Q2 (1.1/3)

20-01-05
Back sore, once blood with stools. Frequency still high. Feels good, a bit tired. Appetite good. Obs. Face not as pale and haggard looking.
Lyc Q3 (1.1/3)

26-01-05
feeling not too bad, no blood in stools, frequency still high, four time per night.
Itch gone, sleep good.
Lyc Q4 (1.1/3)

04-02-05
Up and down, one day in really bad form. No blood. Stools: first watery then solid. Itchy anus. After eating less than an hour he has to go to the toilet. No pain involved
Weakness after stool. Liver stitches.
Conium Q1 (1.1/3)

10-02-05
bad week, frequency went up, lost weight, Tiredness came back. No blood. Liver stitches gone. Sleep broken all the time. Itch back on skin
(conium was not a great selection at this time)
Lyc Q5 (1.1/3)

18-02-05
had one-two bad days, then better, energies picked up. During daytimes not bad, still 3 times at night, back sore.
Lyc Q6(1.1/3)

25-02-05
Terrible itchiness on legs, < night time, first part of night.
No abdominal pain, liverpain, energy good, builds on weight, Stools still too frequent, but painless. Form good past few days.
Lyc Q7 (1.1/3)

04-03-05
Good week, itch on legs still there, scratching after stings like nettles, back good. Skin dry on forehead. Stool frequency the same . Appetite good builds on weight.
Lyc Q8 (1,1/3)

14-03-05
Itch eased off, still there but not unbearable
Bowels were painful again last week alongside with lower Backpain.
Stiffness of back up to neck,
Sep Q1(1.1/3)

23-03-05
More tired. Abdominal pain right sided, persistent with backpain
Blood with stools. Frequency up.
The abdominal pain is continuous when moving becomes sharp, stitching.
Itch cooled down, not a problem.
Stiffness back gone. Appetite good.
Lyc Q9 (1.1/3)

31-03-05
Frequency still up, bleeding stopped. Weakness after evacuations, Stools watery.
Red wine < Stools profoundly now. It used to help. Backache gone only weakness at times. Stools diarrhoea with undigested matter
Conium Q2 (1,1/3)

14-04-05
Stools less frequent , Urge as soon as he puts food into the mouth
No sore back. No sore insides Itch was terrible for 2 nights, now better
Appetite good can take vegetables now when well cooked.
Form good.
Conium Q3 (2.1/3)

28-04-05
Had blood in stools once. Felt tender. No itch, appetite good, sleep good, energies good, temper, feels short-tempered.
Conium Q5 (1,1/3)

04-05-05
things feel settled, Nighttimes frequency not bad. Energies and form good. No pain in back and abdomen. Frequency still high.
Conium Q6 (1.1/3)
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You have found a way round the briar patch. And on the good work with the cancer case.

Where I live many people refuse chemothrapy after cancer ops -- not to my prompting -- they've seen too many friends die of chemo!.

MY QUESTION IS DOES ANYONE FEEL HAPPY ABOUT BEING A COMPLEMENTARY THERAPY TO THIS SORT OF MEDICAL ABUSE OF HUMAN BEINGS . iN MY OPINION IT IS VERY LITTLE BETTER THAN THE MEDICAL WORK CARRIED OUT IN THE NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
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Hallo Paskey

Who even talks of COMPLEMENTARY? How could anybody wish to COMPLEMENT allopathic procedure? Who could support experiments carried out on sick people often unkwown to them by using strong chemicals of unkonwn medical properties ?

I never leaf any doubt, that i am not complemetary to any allopathic procedure, and won't even join any society who thinks, that there can be something of a combined treatment of allopathic and homeopathic way.

Homeopathy is radically curative, when practised according the principles and rules, It does not need any other therpy to complement it. Any such complement would only slow down the healing process.
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Hi Hans, Interesting cases - thanks for posting them here. A pity about the old woman - very sad case. And unfortunately, this kind of thing happens more often than not.

The case of colitis is fascinating. He had a tumour removed - then had a 2nd op having 2/3 of his colon removed. Does that mean he has to use a bag now?
What do you think the prognosis of his case is?
Will you post in future to let us know how it goes?

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Hi Lisa
He refused to have the bag, despite all the medics advising him to have it. This explains the still very high frequency, simply, there is very little storage capacity for the stools left.
My own thinking is, that things are going the right dirrection, still, less than half a year into it would not rectify any better prognosis than: Mildly positive.
Anyway he himself is very happy the way things go.

I will post the progress.
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Hi Hans,

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He refused to have the bag, despite all the medics advising him to have it. This explains the still very high frequency, simply, there is very little storage capacity for the stools left.
My own thinking is, that things are going the right dirrection, still, less than half a year into it would not rectify any better prognosis than: Mildly positive.
Anyway he himself is very happy the way things go.

I will post the progress.
Okay, that explains the high frequency which remains. (Personally, I think he was wise to refuse the bag.)

It definitely sounds like things are going in the right direction - from the improvements thus far. I look forward to hearing future progress with his case.
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Here the most recent updates:

In the case of the woman in her 80’ the surgeon and internist came to the conclusion, that her state of health is poor at the moment. She is very weak and can keep hardly any food down. They decided to withdraw all treatment from now on and advised her to go to the hospice. If she recovers, she would be readmitted in half a year’s time.

Follow – up (of my own case) 19-05-05

Frequency slowed down a good bit during daytimes. Nighttimes still four times. Does not feel as panicky. Itch not bad. Energy: loads of it. Appetite good. Internal Abdomen: little pain. No blood in stool. Blood test: no abnormalities
Rx.: Conium Q7 (2, 1/3)
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Hans , very good work, after orthodoxy gave up!.
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