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Old 27th March 2005, 07:58 AM
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Hello all,

Latent infections are "hidden" or "silent" and may or may not cause symptoms again after the initial acute episode. Some infectious microbes, usually viruses, can "wake up" and become active again, sometimes off and on for months or years, and cause symptoms. Various infectious diseases cause latent infections, where there is the "potential" to get symptoms, and become infected, but the person has not yet. Examples are latent TB and latent syphilis. The symptom-free stage of HIV prior to AIDS is sometimes called latent HIV.
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/l/late...ions/intro.htm

In this respect, can you tell me that;

1. Can homeopathic remedies covert latent coditions into active conditions/infections eg; Silicea?

2. IF yes, Whether this conversion will lead to cure or increase in disease?

3. Can cancer, tumors or other chronic & progressive diseases be called as latent diseases?

4. Is it good or bad to carry on these latent conditions? Why body system not remove complete infection, but just control growth of bacterias, virus & other dideased conditions? Can we think, it is bacteria etc. which create latent conditions not our immune system?

It looks silica/silicea in earth/sand have some important link to these conditios. Can you assess it?

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Latent conditions are hereditary , they come with our packet of genes from our ancestors. They are held in check by the vitality of the individual.
What causes them to rise to the surface ?.
A number of things .
Stress - which reduces the amount of vitality , holding everything together .
Trauma - --------------- ditto -------
Poverty & Starvation------- ditto --------
The major cause of latent conditions rising to the surface is the so called 'Cure ' of symptoms by the use of pharmaceuticals . The allopathic community suffer from the belief that if the symptom picture is "cured" then there are no more problems. THIS IS TOTALLY FALSE.

As the Master , Hahnemann pointed out all illness rises in the non material vitality or Life Force . That Symptoms are VENTS that relieve internal problems . That to "cure " a symptom is to CLOSE a VENT.

Homeopathic remedies ONLY bring to the surface conditions that have been driven inwards or suppressed by allopathic treatment . They only do this for a short period on the road to a PROPER cure.

YES cancers, tumours can be called latent - BUT only in so far as they are part of the hereditary pattern . THey will only be brought to fruition by the conditions mentioned above - mainly by allopathic treatmen, stress , trauma. poverty and starvation..

There is no way that you can avoid the hereditary conditions that are attached to your genes during your gestation .

It is possible to treat sucessive generations so that they will be practically immune to many of the conditions that affect us all - but the only practical work in this sphere is the Brit Royal Family who are on their 3rd or 4th generation. However it doesnt necessarily make them intelligent.

As Von Grauvogl pointed out " it is possible that on the same day and the same hour and from the same source ,one may get a syphilitic ulcer , one a sycotic ulcer and another escape without any infection." The point being that it all depends on the predisposition or susceptability of the subject.

I have a seperate posting on the Human Tape Recorder , that futher explains the matter.
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Passkey,

Thanks. You said, Latent conditions are hereditary. Let us consider few conditions;

Latent TB/HIV/Syphilis

Cancer

Diabetes

Hypertention

How can we say latent TB...other infections, aquired cancers can be hereditary or genetic. Do you think that people are predisposed to getting these conditions--may be due to some weakness in their immunity?

No, doubt Diabetes & hypertention can have hereditary/genetic predispositon, modern lifestyle to which, can enhance & activate these disorders early, but can't we aquire these disorders during our lifetime?

How "Silicea", esp. in low potencies, is related to these latent infections & disorders?
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Is it a weakness or strength of vital force or our immune system, to get & persist with latent conditions? Will it be better not to get these conditions on initial exposure of causing agents unabling immune system to kill or remove those causing agents at initial stages?

Whether most of the today's populations are carrying some latent conditions/infections due to change in lifestyles & environment--which may break & spread at any suitable near future time?

If previous anemic conditions, before the development of latent conditions OR getting anemic conditions (pale skin, jaundice) after the development of latent conditions are common & related to these latent conditions?

I am bit thoughtful about 'imbalanced natural earth exposures due to modernizations', mineral/purified water linked to latent conditions.
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In recent understandings, there can be some diseases/disorders which can be said as progressive diseases not Latent stages of diseases, as these may not be dormant but progressive but remain "asymptomatic" during initial stages.

I want to understand it:-

Can change in environment/lifestyle, while improving immunity, cause latent stage to visible active stage BUT directing towards "cure" not spread?

In other sense, can improved immunity cause to bring pathogens out of their dormant/latent stage & kill/remove them thereafter? Is it necessary to bring those pathogens out to kill?
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The vitality/life.force/spirit level is , in the sense of "strata" just below the immune system .
When this level is healthy then the immune system is strong and will repel any invaders .
However there will always be hereditary imperfections that allow external micro- organisms a foothold .
Normally if caught in time and treated homeopatically no serious harm will occur.
No , our immune systems have pockets into which microoganisms can fit . This is what is meant by 'latency'.
This of course has a relationship to AIDS .
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"The cure must proceed from centre to circumference. From centre to circumference is from above downward, from within outwards, from more important to less important organs, from the head to the hands and feet.

"Every homœopathic practitioner who understands the art of healing, knows that the symptoms which go off in these directions remain away permanently. Moreover, he knows that symptoms which disappear in the reverse order of their coming are removed permanently. It is thus he knows that the patient did not merely get well in spite of the treatment, but that he was cured by the action of the remedy.
How this reverse order will be taken care, if latent condition will not be exposed & come into somewhat active stage eg say; Latent TB.
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If TB is latent it will be part of the genetic pattern , There will be a receptor for infection. BUT if the immune system is strong then the infection will be thrown off.

You seem to be advocating bringing the latent condition into full bloom and then curing it homeopathically ?.

Cannot think that this is a reasonable course of action . But if you achieve it , and can then prove that the latency has been removed I am sure there will be a great amount of interest.
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You seem to be advocating bringing the latent condition into full bloom and then curing it homeopathically ?.
Not advocating, but trying to find out direction of cure. Not bringing the latent condition into full bloom and then curing homeopathically, but bringing dormant/hidden latent infection out by homeopathic treatement to be thrown off the body & achieve cure. Do homeopathic remedies not cure by improving & initiating immunity?

Can a person who live in an crowded big city with latent infections due to weak immunity, if move to some village with healthy environment & no more exposure to same infection, get alike activation condition of these infections for cure not spread?

In short, can a latent condition show symptoms alike active condition for cure (not for spread) in consideration of "symptoms which disappear in the reverse order of their coming are removed permanently "?
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There seems to be some role of iron/pale colour in case of getting latent conditions.

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Iron is an oxidant as well as a nutrient for invading microbial and neoplastic cells. Excessive iron in specific tissues and cells (iron loading) promotes development of infection, neoplasia, cardiomyopathy, arthropathy, and various endocrine and possibly neurodegenerative disorders. To contain and detoxify the metal, hosts have evolved an iron withholding defense system, but the system can be compromised by numerous factors. An array of behavioral, medical, and immunologic methods are in place or in development to strengthen iron withholding. Routine screening for iron loading could provide valuable information in epidemiologic, diagnostic, prophylactic, and therapeutic studies of emerging infectious diseases.

Iron Withholding Defense System
Hosts use several mechanisms (Table 3) to withhold iron from invading microbial and neoplastic cells: stationing of potent iron binding proteins at sites of impending microbial invasion; lowering iron levels in body fluids, diseased tissues, and invaded cells during invasion; and synthesizing immunoglobulins to the iron acquisition antigens of microbes.
www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no3/weinberg.htm
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