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Cancer – Acne – and Dermatology.

There seem to be some misconceptions , that are as they say , rife.
Homeopathy is simply a means of unblocking the channels of energy which prevent the body carrying out the job it has evolved over 40,000,000 years, to execute properly. This is why it is such a close analogue to Acupuncture.
The correct remedy is signposted by the body which displays large placards saying ----“ I NEED +XXX,” Once the correct remedy in the best potency is administered, the Body – as Kent says , carries out a general housekeeping . Those things that are not required are dispensed with. Health is restored. BUT IT IS THE BODY THAT DOES THE WORK--NOT THE REMEDY.
One of the placards that calls for Carsinosin is Acne. Anyone who wants to get the other signs can consult the work of Dr Foubister – Tutorials on Homeopathy—as he was the man who developed and tested the remedy very thoroughly.
It was DR Compton Burnett who over a century ago pointed out that acne , was in fact [ to use his own words ] Diffuse Cancerosis. It is for this reason that my first thought in treating Acne is to turn to Carcinosin- always provided that the other confirming signs are there.
Prof J.H.Allen [ who was Professor of Skin and Venereal Diseases , at Hering Medical College , Chicago] States in his work “Diseases and Therapeutics of The Skin” . Eruption on the skin is always of a constitutional origin and the patient as well as the physician should be well pleased to know that the Life Force has divorced it from within and thrown it as an eruption on the skin. He also points out that --- “The simple fact of the matter is the true cause of disease exists within the individual himself , and all external exciting causes simply assist in the developing or propagation of that internal and ever present condition.”
This is why I consider Dermatology the worst of all the Allopathic Techniques. So any one who get his Acne successfully removed from the surface , driven deep into the recesses of the body where it can create havoc unnoticed ,gives a high chance of causing Cancer. Carsinosin on the other hand does NOT cause cancer. As you cant get Opium 2x or Cocaine 2x or Arsenic 2x I assume it is not possible to obtain any of the Nosodes in 2x potency.
As a tail piece I once cured a 3yr old who kept the whole house up at night because she couldn’t sleep – with Carsinosin 10m . There were confirming signs.
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Cancer – Acne – and Dermatology.

Anyone who wants to get the other signs can consult the work of Dr Foubister – Tutorials on Homeopathy—as he was the man who developed and tested the remedy very thoroughly.
as a tail piece I once cured a 3yr old who kept the whole house up at night because she couldn’t sleep – with Carsinosin 10m . There were confirming signs.
Carcinosin is deep acting nosode .fOUBISTER 'S CARCINOSIN give lot of guidenc in applaying of Carcinosin.
I am able to cure many Genetic ,congenital diseases Mental back wardness in children like Autism ,ADHD ,cerebral palsy,Haemophilias .In elders Diabetes ,Arthritis ,varied chronic tendenciecs depending on Family history of Diabetes ,Arthritis Tuberculosis Mental disorders ,and Cancers even when there is no Carcinosin symptoms .Very reliable nosode ,caution is --not to repeat frequently

Potency I start from 30 and go as and when required

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Absolutely- once you have administered carsinosin dont repeat . Wait for the body to advise you which further remedy is required. If any.
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yes i found the same,on the use of carc. many times have used it after a long time of taking the case,thus finding the 'present state' of the patients constitutionals,and then finding the miasmatic background....and if needed carc. before the const. remedy is given.
One dose in 200c....that is all no more.
in my oppinion it removes the layer of miasmatic predispositions,then opening up the ground for constit.rem. to start working.
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Masroor point of view on carc is, "I am able to cure many diseases..... even when there is no Carcinosin symptoms "

This means that Carc was administered without caring the symptoms of carc and even then he got result. Is this rule applicable for other remedies too? Can we prescribe remedies without following the symptoms? or this rule is restricted only to carc?

G Tyler point of view is, "and if needed carc. before the const. remedy is given."

What she is trying to convey is, before prescribing constitutional remedy, we should gove Carc 200 otherwise, the remedy which was selected (Constitutional Remedy) after long study of symptoms of the patient does not work alone. Is this true? That is, a well selected remedy for constitional response cannot be taken before the application of carc.

Very Funny statements from both parts. They don't know what they are saying. This also shows that each homeopath has its own rule.
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This sort of prescriptions, are in vogue since hannemann's time,in fact,in his introduction to 'The Chronic Diseases' ,he talks about starting a psora case with Sulphur,and this view is reechoed by many of his contemporaries.

The modern trend seems to start with a nosode,which is a favourite, to the physician concerned.

Well, even these kinds of prescriptions can be justified.

Remember that if you don't have the susceptability to a particular medicine,it is as if taking nothing,particularly when you take it in potensised form.It won't harm you.

Now,if you have the susceptability ,the medicine will do whatever good it can do.

Many times,physicians,resort to such type of prescriptions,when the symptoms are totally masked due to advanced pathology.I agree,it is like throwing a stone.But,there are chances that it may be a hit.

The only caution,which all of them advise is to let it act for enough time.So,if you are lucky,you may get benefitted.If not,it is as if taking nothing,and your disease may progress a little further.

I know,this is not the best way,but sometimes,it may become necesary.The experience of the physician counts,and if he has got results,in a majority of cases,by prescribing like this,who are we to complain?

Even when we feel we selected the simillimum,are we really sure?We select a medicine,out of a probable few.It is quite possible that,we might have missed the correct medicine.Then,what do we do?We zigzag the case.

So,nothing is perfect.As long as the physician is making an 'educated guess' in cases where he can afford a slight delay in cure ,and don't change medicines too often,we really can't blame them.

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The basic law of homeopathy is that disease can be cured by giving the patient minute amounts of a substance that can induce similar symptoms to the actual disease itself" The basic tenet of homeopathy is similia similibus currentur: ‘let likes be cured with like'. The first homeopathic principle states that any substance that can make you ill can also cure you – anything that is capable of producing symptoms of disease in a healthy person can cure those symptoms in a sick people"

The basic principles of homeopathy are
PROVINGS
LAW OF SIMILARS
LAW OF MINIMUM DOSE -
POTENTIZATION
LAW OF INDIVIDUALIZATION -

After explaining everything above, let me ask to these three scholars passkey, masroor and G Tyler, Which principle was followed when you give carcinocin.

Carc is not traditionally proved medicine. You didn't follow similar law and ignored individualization of the patient. Are you doing homeopathy? or Hit and miss method and playing with the health of patients.

Gravinmurthy, Who told you that Hahnemann used Sulphur (homeopathic medicine) on psora without following the symptoms. or symptoms were not calling to psoric medicine even then he used psoric medicine and got result. My dear, if sulphur was given then it was given on symptoms. The only point was it was given preference to first choiced remedy. This does not mean that no symptoms of the sulphur were present even then sulphur was given and patient was got cured.

For God sake refrain your ideas. Where you taking homeopathic science?
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hello moaliji my statement or previous post was not read carefully as each word had ''clear meanings'' to my intentions.AS indicated " i do carefull case construction prior to a conclusion for RX.
If it is indicated via symptomology,miasmic background,history,onset cause,physical,mental,and emotional make up.Then but only then does one give a remedy.
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Hello G Tyler, it was you who backup Homeopathic Scholar Masroor with "Yes" statement with his blunders, when he said, he has cured all "INCURABLE DISEASES (LONG LIST)" with carc alone when the symptoms of the carc were also not there? Do you still agree with his statement?

My question is to you "Do you prescribe carc in your practice, if the patient symptoms does not match with carc sympotms?"
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Who on earth said that homeopathy is a science !!. This is one of our main problems. People try to reconcile the "Science" of allopathy with homeopathy. A little thought will reveal the error of this atittude .
But Moalij you need to study the whole of Foubister's Work on Carsinosin before trying to set up a couple of yardsticks for its use.
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