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Hello,

I am new to this forum. I have been under homeopathic treatment for 3 years.

As of last year, I seem to be falling sick every few months - and it seems to
linger each time for at least a month. In March of last year I had a low grade fever that lasted a month, then later in October last year acute dysentery that took a month to clear up.

Now I seem to have caught the latest flu/cough virus going around. Its been
two weeks and I haven't shaken it off yet. The remedies my homeopath is giving me have certainly helped but its taking its time leaving. I have intermittent fever of 99.5F and some coughing with phlegm.

My homeopath says my body is in a reactive stage and that is why I am falling sick more often. he says he doesn't know if or how often I will continue to fall sick in the future.

Can anyone shed some light on what is going on? I am tempted to abandon
constitutional treatment - earlier I felt some relief from emotional and mental
symptoms but I really haven't seen a resolution of the original problems I went
to see him for - hives due to food allergies from dairy and tomatoes, and also
PMS. To fall sick this often and for so long is very disrupting to my life.

Another complicating factor right now is that I am about 6 weeks pregnant.

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Old 8th February 2005, 09:27 AM
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Hi Arti,
MAnaging a case is never very easy.
A lost depends on the complications and past history of diseases and treatment.

But 3 years is a long time to be on constitutional treatment and not feel in better health. I'd think either there is a block to healing (adn these can be difficult to deal with), or the remedy you're having is a partial (but helpful) similimum and not constitutional, or else you need intercurrent remedies to help you along.

I think you need to seriously discuss all this with your homeopath.
All the best.
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Old 9th February 2005, 01:09 AM
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Hi Leela,

Thanks for your reply. Just curious - what is considered a block to healing?
I have had an abortion at 17 weeks (due to a birth defect) and a miscarriage at 6 weeks in the last 2 years. Would these events be considered a block to healing? Now I am pregnant again (at 39 years old!) and am hopeful that this
time it will be a healthy baby.

The homeopath started out using arsenicum album and anacardium. I had
an aggravation (huge hives all night) and he was excited and kept me on the
anacardium for a while. He has used other remedies for acute situations. After
my abortion, he gave me ignatia which really helped with the grief. Later he
changed my constitutional remedy to staphysagria - he has been giving me this for the last 6 months. It made me very emotional for a while. Right now I have the flu and cough for the last 2 weeks - he used staphysagria and stannum mostly.

I guess I'm wondering how to tell if he is on the right track. I have had some good experiences in acute situations with him, and I seem to respond
on the mental/emotional level to the remedies he gives me - but how do I
know treatment is proceeding in the right direction? Not being able to take
milk is a problem right now with my pregnancy. I will talk to him, but any further light you can shed will be helpful.

Another question - I also use herbs. Is this contraindicated with homeopathy?
He has not said that it is. What is your opinion?
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Hi Arti,
Some herbs can interfere with the action of homeopathic remedies or it makes analysis of symptoms more difficult. It can also slow down the action of the indicated remedy. It definitely forms one type of block.

I don't think I'm in any way able to tell you more about possible blocks you may have as I've not been handling your case - one sort of learns what they are in time. An abortion may be a block of sorts, but what may need to be investigated is why there was a birth defect. It points to a particluar miasmatic background, as does family history and other past history.

the remedy indicated should be able to cover this miasmatic tendency otherwise it may only be palliative. Emotional improvement is only one indicator. IF you have a normal uneventful pregnancy this time, it would be another indicator.
Hope this helps.
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Hi Leela,

Thanks so much for your reply. It does help me to talk to him about my
treatment plan.

Do you know of any resources I could research for which herbs can be blocks to homeopathic healing? I use some ayurvedic and also chinese and western
herbs.

Also, do you know what would happen if I were to discontinue homeopathic
treatment at any point? Would I return to my previous state of health or would I be worse off in any way? Would the work I have done with my doctor over the last 3 years go to waste?

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From the details given one would say that your immune system is under par. This can be due to many causes . One of which [often overlooked ] is long term low level stress and you may be in this class.
I am not an expert but would say certainly that strong smelling herbs like eucalyptus, garlic, mint, [ and substances like camphor ,menthol , etc] will neutralise the effect of homeopathic remedies.As will strong spices.
Stannum is an excellent vermifuge and a stimulant in some cases ; Staphy has some relations to the sycotic class . But I would be dubious about naming either of them as "constitutional" .
All experience is 'learning ' and I would not worry about moving to another homeopath . We all have differing points of view and a fresh look is often valuable.
As Kent said 'homeopathy never fails - only the person administering it' . Which of course puts a heavy burden on us!.
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Hi Arti,
each case is individual. BUt over time, with a few patients, I've found out by accident that when the progress was good, but painfully slow, it was because they were on herbs and other unnecessary supplements.
As soon as they stopped them, the progress to cure was much more rapid.

The path to healing is not often a staright path, becasue teh development of disease is not a stright path either! We often need to use what is necessary at a particlular point of time. there may be periods when homeoapthic remedies cannot help, or do not help adequtaly for various reasons. The important thing is to be aware of where you are headed in the long term in your health, whatever the treatment choices you make.

Are new disease symptoms coming up? Is a simple complaint now becoming more complex? Is a symptom that was initially localized now becoming more wide spread? Is your state of health continuing to detriorate, as in, more serious diseases happenning? All this would point to suppressive treatment and away from cure and health.

BUt if you find that you fall sick less often. Serious complaints are becoming less symptomatic, you seem to funtion better, like you did when you were in optimum health, no new diseases or serious problems are present, only old complaints seem to be coming up which are of much less intensity ... then you know that whatever treatment you are taking is not suppressive and you are on your way to cure/health.

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Are new disease symptoms coming up? Is a simple complaint now becoming more complex? Is a symptom that was initially localized now becoming more wide spread? Is your state of health continuing to detriorate, as in, more serious diseases happenning? All this would point to suppressive treatment and away from cure and health.

BUt if you find that you fall sick less often. Serious complaints are becoming less symptomatic, you seem to funtion better, like you did when you were in optimum health, no new diseases or serious problems are present, only old complaints seem to be coming up which are of much less intensity ... then you know that whatever treatment you are taking is not suppressive and you are on your way to cure/health."
Well said Dr.Leela.

This is the way the effectiveness of any therapy has to be judged,not only homeopathy.

And it is no wonder that families on homeopathic therapy ,since a few years,vouch for this.

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Hi Leela,

I agree with your last post. However, I am unable to judge whether the
treatment is helping or not. As I mentioned in my first post, I am falling sick
more often since last year. My homeopath was actually excited (!) when I
got the dysentery - he said that is a classic symptom and that "I am well
on my way" (I neglected to ask him "well on my way to what?").

I guess the reason for my questions is I want to find out if this doctor is really
good or if I am falling sick more often due to incompetence. I certainly did
not used to fall sick this often before. I have made a lot of changes in my life
the last couple of years - quit my well-paying corporate job to stay at home,
been through an abortion and a miscarriage and am finally pregnant again. I would think that having a lower stress level due to quitting the work scene would actually improve my immunity, but the reverse seems to have happened.

I never caught bugs like I have been doing. It is disruptive to my life. I don't
want to fall sick this often. That he says "your body is reactive" and "I don't
know how often or how long you will fall sick in the future" is infuriating me.
Plus I don't think he practices good communication skills - he comes across
rather superior and condescending. I will talk to him about my concerns but am doubtful if I will get any straight answers. In any case, I wonder if you do
long-distance cases? I do visit Delhi every year or every other year - but if
you do long-distance cases, I can get my file from him and try it with you if
you think you can be of help.

I have received enough help from him in acute situations to know that homeopathy does work. I just don't know about constitutional treatment. It
seems like I am a guinea pig - and that it is more of a ****shoot than a science. Certainly, falling sick more often is so counter-intuitive - and being a
student of natural healing I do understand having a healing crisis - but this is
continuing over a year!

thanks,
arti
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dear arti
regards your immune system ,it seems like a case of candida/yeast in your system. As you have mentioned the drinking of milk causes aggravation among other.
I have seen severe cases of this lasting years due to the onset of candida,its difficult to get rid of. DId you at one time have this?...did you at one time take antibiotics,hormone drugs...?
Dairy products will only aggravate your condition.Candida can cause many of the symptoms you have mentioned so far.....more info please

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