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Old 19th January 2005, 03:44 PM
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A (first) member posted this article at a forum

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Disease: SEPTICAEMIA

Sign and Symptoms

Shaking Chills

Rapid temperature rise

rapid, pounding heartbeat

warm, flushed skin

confusion and other symptoms of mental impairment

Drop in blood pressure

General ill feeling

Possible Diagnosis:

Your own observation of symptoms

Medical history and phsyical examination by your family Physician.

How to Evaluate:

Reduce fever if it goes over 104F (40c)

How to reduce fever. dont reduce lower

temperature; a slight fever helps mobilize

the sbody's defense against infections.

Lab studies such as culture of the blood to

identify germs responsible for the illness;

urinalysis; blood count

Homeopathic Treatment:

Baptisia 3x

carbolic acid 30

china sulph 3x

echinacea 3x

pyrogenum 200

rhus tox 30, 200


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…….. there are signs and symptoms not excluding every other possibility - the differential diagnosis is not completed. There is a rudimentary 'evaluation' giving no real meaningfulness and then there is a "homeopathic treatment" consisting of a list of a number of homeopathic remedies.
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No reference given, the informations given not applicable if You are facing a patient in this serious condition.

…….. having in mind that they might try to treat a patient in danger on the basis of these informations?

Where's the responsibility for the patient?




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# The post is meaningless



# According to him, the books like “practice of medicines” which provide most probable medicines against patient disease state are without reference and not recommended for homeopathic students.



# The information which mostly available in these type of books are against elementary course of homeopathy.



# Providing such information is a peccadillo, a crime against homeopathy because doctor does not accept responsibility.



My intention in this thread is not to concentrate on member’s opinions, whether the second member was right or wrong? Because on the same site Glen Irving Bidwell, M.D. article is also highlighted in which he wroteIn septic diseases of every sort we find our patients running into Arnica conditions.” He also writes “Arnica represents the surgical septic condition more closely than that of the puerperal type…. A dose of Arnica in the beginning will prevent all this and quickly restore the part to normal.”



And in the disease section on the same site the writer says “Rhus tox is a very useful remedy in acute suppuration…. It has proved curative in abscesses….Rhus corresponds very closely to septicaemia.”

About Lachesis the writer says “septicaemia of the disease is met by this remedy.” And about Baptisia the writer says “is a powerful agent to counteract septic poisoning”, if you all remember then, at homeopathyhome a case was floated in which newly born baby was suffering from septicemia and that was got cured with baptisia.



My question is, have you ever used practice of medicine books like “Select Your Remedy By Das Bshimber”?



Is there any need of such books in Homeopathy?

Is there any need of such articles written by first member. Are these articles are wastage of time?

Do you recommend any such books (disease, sign, symptoms, evaluation and possible remedies with slight discription)? If yes, what is the name of that book?


Do you recommend such books to be taught/read in homeopathic courses?


Does this type of article / books have high value to you? If not then why publishers are printing in huge quantity and why people are purchasing?

I hope you will enlighten us with your opinions.
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Old 22nd January 2005, 02:03 AM
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firstly, the member who said "…….. there are signs and symptoms not excluding every other possibility - the differential diagnosis is not completed. There is a rudimentary 'evaluation' giving no real meaningfulness and then there is a "homeopathic treatment" consisting of a list of a number of homeopathic remedies.

No reference given, the informations given not applicable if You are facing a patient in this serious condition.

…….. having in mind that they might try to treat a patient in danger on the basis of these informations?

Where's the responsibility for the patient?"


This shows that member has no background of study of medicine. or at least he has not study, physiology, bio-chemistry, pathology, anatomy and histology type subjects in his/her study which are the compulsory subject of homeopathic bhms and dhms courses. May be he (she) is very perfect in homeopathy but he does not know the basic of medical science. He might treat many patient with homeopathic medicine and can claim "cures" like a child who had gun in his arm and shooted many birds by firing so many bullets.



If you study organon, you will find that Hahnemann entire organon is based on disease. Without having the knowledge of disease, its causes, etiology, medicine and prevention etc you can not even call yourself a homeopath "doctor".

Yes, homeopathy treats individual with single remedy. No body is against this principle. But how a person can find the difference "pain in pyloric or cardiac end?"


In my opinion, a person who have no diagnostic right have no right to treat patients. This is a crime in the world of medical health.
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Old 22nd January 2005, 02:22 AM
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A baby was crying at night and was not sleeping. Her mother said on telephone line she need to be carried all the time. Her cry was hooon hoooon hooon. She consulted a homeopath (he was my friend who told me this story). Homeopaths said, on the info of her mother, I thought about cham. The picture was very clear. But again, I advice her to carry to your baby to someone closer to you or bring her to me. The doctor said, when I put my steth on her chest. It was clearly a pneumonia case. I prescribed antim iod 30. He said, although I never used that remedy before in my four years of practice but surprisingly the result was great because her baby symptoms were calling to ant iod. If you just go on to symptoms you will expoil the case unless you diagnose the case as well.

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My question is, have you ever used practice of medicine books like “Select Your Remedy By Das Bshimber”?


Ask someone who is homeopathic doctor....


Is there any need of such books in Homeopathy?

Yes, these books provide lot of guidance.


Is there any need of such articles written by first member. Are these articles are wastage of time?


I don't know about the need but I havn't seen a single homeopathic magazine where such type of articles were not published.


Do you recommend any such books (disease, sign, symptoms, evaluation and possible remedies with slight discription)? If yes, what is the name of that book?


Yes, for study purpose.... without studying such articles and books you can't practice homeopathy.


Do you recommend such books to be taught/read in homeopathic courses?


Ask any doctor?


Does this type of article / books have high value to you? If not then why publishers are printing in huge quantity and why people are purchasing?

I hope you will enlighten us with your opinions.
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Thank you Imran!

The insight is admirable.

Actually the question was asked during yahoo chat and i took the risk of asking that question in mailing list.

Thanks again
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Practice of Homoeopathy
By Paul F. Curie, M. D.


This was sent to me

http://homeoint.org/books2/curiepra/index.htm
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The word "disease" has hitted approx 788 times in organon. We cannot ignore the importance of disease based info. I recommend my own notes to my students. Students get free photostat at any time. I have been teaching homeopathy in a college for the last 15 years.
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We must study pathology so that we get ourselives armoured with the knowledge of what is common in a disease and what is peculiar in a given case.
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It is important to have a knowledge of physiology but also to remember the great importance of the facts laid out by Hahmemann , and many others . That all dis-ease starts in the non material vitality/spirit area and only produces symptoms as a vent for the internal pressure. To block the vent and cure the symptom is to work against the interests of the patient.
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