This is my Christmas Gift which I would like to share with all who are overweight.

A few months ago I discovered that Natrum Phosphoricum (Nat Phos) 6x which I had given a few friends who came to me complaining of acidity after meals, also had a most unusual reaction on their weight. They discovered that they shed their weight by between 2 to 3 kg per month (not week as previously stated due to a typo), on their normal daily regimen of eating and exercise. They informed me that they passed more water than usual and that they felt much lighter in their bodies and were happy to be able to use their old garments which they had been compelled to discard over the years.

My discovery may be considered as unbelievable but it is indeed true as anyone who is overweight can discover for him or her self. The use of Nat Phos 6x on a daily basis is quite safe as it constitutes a concentration of only 1/1Millionth of the salt. It promotes Peristalysis in the stomach and gut thereby reducing the build up of acidity in the stomach which leads to heart burn. It has been in use for many years as the ultimate remedy for acidity especially after a heavy meal but it has never been used, as far as I know, to reduce weight. The dose is 3 tablets Nat Phos 6x taken twice daily, or 2 tablets taken thrice daily, preferably after meals.

It is possible that my discovery can be considered as an important milestone in the Materia Medica of Homeopathic Remedies for the treatment of Obesity and I would recommend that those who use this simple remedy will please post their observations on their weight loss on this Forum.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all.

Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

Dear De

Are you sure that was nat phos that could be Nat Carb because one cause of obesity is indigestion, disorder in assimilation of many food items, heartburn, milk side effects, dairy products and their side effects like flatulance or sputttery diarrhoea, craving for few weight gain items like potatoes and sweets. See in all these condtions Natrum carbonicum is well indicated remedy for these complains and I found good results in obese people. This remedy can be helpful to mild people who have trouble digesting and assimilating many foods and have to stay on restricted diets. If you could be able to remove the cause of obesity you can easily recover the patient from gaining weight.

Anyway thanks for sharing that wonderful info. Homeopathy is full of such miracles and unforeseens. We have to believe on, because observation and experience is the real teacher. The person that face problems after consuming dairy products or too much sugar and have craving for fried eggs demands NAT PHOS 6X.

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Joe, i believe that you have good reactions on this remedy. The connection with na phos is for me that this remedy helps in many situations where a certain secret of life is present. If i connect this with your findings it may be that food (oral fixation) and retention of water (kidney as symbolism for water and emotions) is connected with unknown and suppressed things in life.

When i have complicated cases where i think there is a mental block without knowing what ... na-phos helped to bring some psychologic traumatism to the present ... history of rape, abuse or suppressed emotions.

A personal experience is that oleum animale helps changing the craving for fats, pastry and gives very strong effects on obesity. I give it in addition to simillimum...
Capsicum and mezereum gived also good results (home-sickness and loss of territorium, which induce the cravings for fat, eating ...)

Joe, You have listed your location as Columbo, Sri Lanka.
I hope you and your family have survived the tragic tsnumani that hit Sri Lanka so hard yesterday. I hope you will be back online soon. Best wishes and blessings, Lisa

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Nat.Phos. creates water in system. Means it seprates trapped water in body. It acts on lactic acid & aid in converting it into CO2+Water. The water so seprated can be excreted as urine. It may help to loose 4/6 Kg of water (not fats) quickly depending on quantity of water trapped in the body, but it can also compress nerves & vessels due to loss of cushioning effects. Quick weight loss as claimed by severals may be due to this reason. It can also lead to lower stomach acid which can lower the digestion so absorption of several minerals as calcium, iron, B12 , carbs & protiens i.e. other than fats & fat's soluble minerals. However, I think it also results in better absorption of fats & fats soluble vitamins due to more utilization of bile.

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I disagree with KVee. The reaction which he is explaining is in crude form (Although I am not convinced with his anonymous chain reaction in the body. I don't know in which lab this reaction is studied. yes in few book (homeopathic) this or other type of chain reaction is avialable which is no authority) and not in potentised form. We know we also use Nat Phos in 12x and 30c (atleast I have use them on different occasions). In these potencies the above reaction is not possible neither available anywhere. There is huge difference between physiological action of crude form nat phos and potentised form nat phos 12x or 30c. If a homeopath could be able to explain physiological reaction as explained by mr. kvee (with authentic prove), then he can win Randi million dollar question.

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Few reaction related to lactic acidosis can be read at:-

http://homeoint.org/books/boericmm/n/nat-p.htm

Rest effects can be studied in book 'The Twelve Tissue Remedies' by Boericke (B.jain) under this remedy. Pls also study role Nat Phos on stomach acidity & of stomach acidity in digestion.

Some indications are given at:

Moreover, it may be a relevant remedy for some problems enhanced by modern lifestyle & environment which may lead to excess gastric acid & lack of oxygen in body. Lack of Oxygen may lead to anaerobic activities & lactic acid production is one of the anaerobic activity in body.

Since, this remedy can effect alike constitutional/miasmatic/ayurvedic constitutional remedy, it may not be proper to take without complete history & for long time, just as a remedy for obesitydirectly as It may lower iron,calcium,B12 & other mineral in body & can also cause depression, if adversily prescribed. Wrong prescripion in case of dealing with acid/base balance of body can mean 'just opposite', probably.

Btw, Reg; crude form, I think homeopathic remedies behave in 'like cure likes' manner.

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Mr. KVee

I think, you havn't followed what I was trying to say I said, you are using the word "Nat Phos salt" for explaining the reaction and I said, there is lot of difference between a salt and potentized 12x or 30c potency.

I quote "Deficiency of this salt in the gastric juice will bring about acid and sour fermentations, and so it cures sour belching and sour rising of fluids. (Kayvee)"

You also said, "Nat.Phos. creates water in system. Means it seprates trapped water in body."

My only question is, Can you confirm your acid base or aerobic and anaerobic reaction with Nat Phos 30x or 200 x (in bio chemic form)? or what will happen in the body when you will give nat phos 30c to your patient? What would be the chemical reaction take place in the body?

The reaction which you are explaining is in the crude form of Nat Phos and not in the potentised form of nat phos. In potencies like 30x or 30c , the above reaction is not possible neither available anywhere. There is huge difference between physiological action of crude form nat phos and potentised form nat phos 12x or 30c.

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When effect is there, phsiological & pathological changes should also exist & these should be regularily measured. But since, homeopathy just suggest on 'symptoms & effect' basis, these measurements may not be usually done to check the effects (a big thought?).

In case of homogenous body bio-chemicals, there may not be much differance in crude substances symptoms & proving symptoms. Just consider Nat. Mur & NaCl symptoms. These may behave isopathically. Furthur, I consider homeopathic esp. biochemic defficiency as defficiancy due to non-working of any biochemical due to its accumulation. Homeopathically or biochemically, you can't add any really defficiant biochemical by higher potencies, but you can correct its apparent defficiency as caused due to any physiological disorder or due to its accumulation.

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