Hello Hans,

Very sound points and reminders; thanks, because it's too easy to get caught up on disease names! I find myself doing it sometimes (grrr).

I was trying to look up Uwe Plates Symptom Lexicon but only saw it in German. Do you know if it's available in English? If so, any source where to buy it?
If not - is it easy enough to use in German?
Thanks -
Lisa

Thanks to all for your replies. I see one problem in the repertories that we can only add symptoms but not delete. Therefore the repertories growth and growth and all individual remedies will one day be a polycrest! With the current state of the repertories we should be very careful in using these and hope that some of the people behind the major repertories see this problem and respond in a positive way to this problem. People are treated using the remedies!! and to my opinion they have very low quality and full of inconsistencies.

Dear Mose, der Lisa
Well Mose, very mildly put -- I would say that many times these hyper repertories send the practitioner on the gardenpath [Holzweg].
But even more desasterous is it, if we don't know what forms the case and what not, and what are the points where remedies differ and what not.
Point one to realize: Homeopathy does not cure humans -- it cures diseases.
Yes, it cannot do away with suffering entirely, but to go further would take up a few pages, maybe some other time.

Lisa, yes the symptomenlexikon is only available in german, and till date no-one has shown interest to publish it in english, -- what a shame!! -- it is of greatest importance for the study of homeopathy and for the daily work.
Even David little does not want to include the material which I translated for him regards it.

So -- instead of developing the repertorium ''universale'' into a repertorium ''intergalactical'' where we would have the choice between more than 10 000 different mental expressions, why not return to the basiscs and publish this work of Hahnemanns, which was highly acclaimed by Hering, Boenninghausen and Jahr and favoured by Hahnemann.

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That IS a shame! Any idea to whom English speakers could express interest TO? How difficult is the Symptom Lexicon to use??? I wonder if it's worth getting the German copy anyway?? Any thoughts?

Not sure what what you're referring to here......


Hmmm. I agree a lot of rubbish is thrown into a lot of the modern repertories, and that's why I've personally avoided most of them.

But, have you looked at the Rep Universale? I downloaded it recently (close to 75MB!). I haven't yet had time to browse it comprehensively (or learn how to use it).However, I did have a quick peek and I could see the rubrics were clearly marked with an author number beside it. You can click on the number to see who the author is (and you can easily return to the previous screen, so you don't get lost in the program). This is very useful to be able to source the authors easily, because you can discard the ones you don't feel are reliable and only use the ones you feel are sound -- avoiding dubious rubrics! At least that's my impression thus far.

There was some talk about being able to mix the Kent and Boenninghausen methods using RU. However, I'm not sure what was meant by that because they are very different methods (different grades, for one!!) and I can't imagine how one could mix them to reliable effect!

Anyway, I plan to use the RU as a research tool whenever I need to look up a rubric that I can't locate in another Rep. And that feature of clearly seeing who the author of a rubric is - is really handy. It's well organised and well laid out as far as I can tell. And, I think it's really nice of Roger to share it with everyone.
I do understand some of your concerns, though.

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Dear Lisa, dear members

Regards the comment I made about David Little last night:
David Little had the idea to include a chapter on the symptomenlexikon in his forthcoming book and asked me to forward some information. With permission of uwe Plate I translated some of Plates material and forwarded it to David Little. The last I heard from david Little, {leave aside personal diffamations], was, that he will not include the material in his forthcoming book.

The symtomenlexikon is a pretty big book in 5 volumes, as it contains more than 8 000 pages. There is nothing in it which is not contained in the MMP. It is just the materia medica rearranged in 3 different ways. Normally the MMp is arranged from head to tow. by studying that one gets a fair idea, what areas of the body are mainly affected. But say in the given case the symptom I am looking for is: Stinging from one location to another.
first, this complete combination of signs is not in the repertory and secondly, the repertory does not give me the information which remedies of the group of ''stinging from-to'' remedies has this in characteristic manner.
Without the symptomenlexikon, I would need to work through the complete MMP of 10 volumes to see which remedies have this symptom and which exactly has it in characteristic manner. This can be made much easier with the symptomelexikon. In part 4 whee the extra signs are listed, there is a chapter on ''from-to'' sensations containing all symptom entries form the MMP starting from Aconite to Zinc. Within the remedies the symptoms are arranged from A-Z again, so all what I have to do here is to look in that chapter under Acon subsection: stinging and see what entries there are etc.

the symptomelxikon is easy to use, yet, at the start there is a lot of studying and comparing to be done, but once the notes are taken things become pretty quick, and sofar it has shown great reliability when used according the dirrections given in the organon.

Another thing is the price of Euro 1250, which seems high or for some members prohibitive. Personally i don't know at this stage whether it is rectified or not, -- the development of the results gained by the use of it will ultimately decide, but as the first few cases show, the remedy can be selected with ease and without any doubt and the results are smashing.

I will at another time puvblish some casework.

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Hello Hans,

Can you describe or explain how the materia medica is arranged in three different ways? Sorry - you went on to mention 'part 4 where extra signs are listed'....or is there a link that tells a bit about his book? I did a google, but only came up with a german site.

Do you have some old copy of the lexicon or do you have Uwe's books?

What did you mean about the 'development of the results gained by the use of it'? Are there only a few testing it now -- so it's not fully published yet?

It really sounds like a gem of a tool! Wish I could afford it!
I wonder if he'll ever put it on cd. If so, maybe it will be more affordable than printing costs for 5 volumes! I'm wishing!!!

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Hallo Hans

We are coming a little away from the hard tumor but this is OK. I have no problem in reading German and can you give me a reference where I can buy this book in German.

Concerning the repertories what do we do with them?There are many people on this forum that rely on these and patients too!!. I suggest a big warning and being used to the German way I suggest to go back to the basic. Hahnemann and the old masters did it and I suggest to follow their rules.

OK -- I will open a new tread.

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Sorry Mose!! I have now split the relevant posts to this new thread....again - sorry to go so far off topic in your other thread.
Best wishes,
Lisa

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Dear members
For anyone interrested and with a bit of german here is uwe Plate's site:
www.symptomenlexikon.de

i am very busy at the moment, so that I would not come around for a while to contribute much to the tread.
Cheers, hans

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