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I would appreciate any help, to find my daughter's constitution. I post here everything I think may be important. She is 14,5 years old.
She's main problems are:
- underactive pituitary, so she would be officially a pituitary dwarf, would she not get all those growth hormone injections. (She had a bone-age of 3 years at age 6. At age 13,5 I stopped the hormone, cause she has grown so quickly, and we just won't like her to be too tall.She is the same height like me now.)
- underactive thyroid, so she till taking thyroid supplements at present.
- severly nearsighted, her myopia was diagnosed at 3 months. Her optic nerve is "underworking", so it carries less information to the optic-cortex, than comes in through the eye. She can see things only frome very close, maybe 3-10 cm. And she can't see with her left eye (doctor told us, it is because she had the wrong glasses prescribed, as a toddler, and her brain just shut off her left eye. We dicovered this at age 3,5, and tried everything, with no succes, to turn it on again.)
- her personality is rare - I think. She just can not stand up for herself. She behaved this way from the moment of her birth: I thought demand-feeding is the best, but she just layed quietly, not crying, and losing weight for feeding so infrequently. Once I was soo tired, after we was home from the hospital, that I just forgot her in the bedroom for almost 6 hours - when I ran in, she layed in the crib, patiently looking around. Later she would ask for things so quiet, that nobody hear, and would wait for hours, before complaining. But once her patience is over -which could be many hour - she would be getting angry, and crye out loud "Nobody heard what I was asking for hours?!" Now, she still come, and stand for a few minutes, then start to speak, but talk aroung the thing she would want to, and many times we loose our patience and ask her straight "Would you like the scissors?". In school, her teacher complained, that many times, if she would need something to do he work, she say almost to her nose "I don't have a pencil" and do no more to get one! People aroung her should find out what she needs.
- another personality trait is her curiosity. She always ask questions, and once answered, just more questions, and any person would be tired of answering, than she would be of asking questions. She want to know every word its EXACT meaning, and while others are guessing from the text, what it should mean, she ask at once. She isn't bothered with things like "social rules", or like, she would ask anybody any question in any situation.
- she can not take any "falseness". If she thinks someting is one way, she became VERY frustrated, if unable to convince others of this. They fight very much with her siblings, because of this.
- she likes music, and became very pathetic from beautiful music.
- she likes painting, and doing quiet things alone, when not talking with others, what she likes best.
- she want to knows EVERYTHING: watch every documentary and natural life films in TV.
- she is fearful and anxious about maybe doing something wrong. If there is only one apple left on the shelf, and earlier we told the kids, that there is one apple for everyone, she would come, and ask if she could take that, if that is her's, and not other's for sure.
- she has a soft apperance in her muscle. From babyhood till now, it resemble a cake, being kneeded, and waiting to raise, before baking.
- her bones are strong, at least they look strong: big knee bone, and a so big ankle bone, it is hard to buy her shoes. And her big toe is much longer than the others.
- her skin is fair, and burns easily on sun.
- she always forget to drink. If I would not tell her, she would go days, with only 1-2 glass of drink per day.
- she hate water. If I want her to drink, I should make something, maybe tea, but absolutely no water.
- she hate fatty foods.
- she is awake in the evening, and sleeps like dead in the morning.
- she is SLOW. It takes sometimes 5 minutes to take on 1 sock! She walks slowly, eat slowly, and - seems to me - thinks slowly, although she is smart, but it takes more time to figure out, what is she thinking.
- her body's reactions are slow too: she is the last one to come down with any illnesses going around the kids. And if she is coming down at last, it is SUDDEN. It happened more times, that she got earache, very sever at once, and before we reached the doctor's office, her ear perforated, and the pain stopped. She have fever suddenly too.
- the dwarfness and the myopia is run in the family. I'm nearsighted too (but not so severe as she) and although my father isn't, but her mother, and all her sisters was nearsighted, and very short, with child-size feet.
- I had the impression, that she had no sight-problem, before her first vaccination. After that one, she cried for hours, than fell asleep, and we can't wake her up for about 12 hours. Weeks later I discovered, that she wouldn't smile, if I came in silently, and lean over her, with breath held. That was the time, we took her to a specialist, who diagnosed her sight-problem.
- her main health problem - above those alredy listed - was ear-infections.
- Oh, and an important thing, - at least to us, living with her- she scratching her throat maybe 10 or more times a minute! She used to do this silently, and ineffectly, but everyone told her to "do it right: one big and load, and that would be", that she now doing it normally loud - but still nothing, just repeating and repeating. It is worse in the evening.
- an interesting thing: when she was younger, I tried out: if she would not get any dairy for at least 3-4 days, the scratching would lessen, and her body temperature would rise. If milk is added back, the scratching would worsen, and her body temperature would fall.
- she didn't menstruate yet, I hope she will on her own, and not want to take her more hormones.
That's all I can recall right now.
Any opinion would be welcomed!
Monika
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monika,

I think I wrote to you for another post where you were seeking advice on dementia and depression. I have noticed your further messages and the follow up you have done.

you may not like my advice and may find it rude - but the truth is that you are not a homeopath and you are playing with deep acting remedies. leave things in the hands of a trained practitioner. the kinds of problems that you are trying to treat yourself may be diffucult to handle even by novice homeopaths.
please do not further jeopardise the health of your daughter / friend by this sort of action.

I did have some idea about your friend's problem (depression case) and now based on whatever you have written - I may have some remedy to suggest.
but tell me - when you receive 10 suggestions from 10 people on the list - how do you decide ? how do you know who is right ?
I have seen your replies and follow up for the depression case as such.

I would also request other members of this list - NOT to suggest remedies to such people, like you.
believe me, it is an act of compassion and not being cruel.

I have nothing but concern and sympathy for your daughter.
and with a lot of love, I am forcing myself to NOT write the remedy I have in mind for her. just giving a remedy is not important. there is a need of proper follow up and assessment.

I request all members of this list to be really compassionate and not unknowingly become a medium for others suffering. hope all of us keep this in mind, when suggesting remedies.

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Hi, dr agarwala!

I have read your post. And I'm freezed. I didn't thought, that my post would make you feel so disturbed, as you seems to me from your answer.
You asks me:
"tell me - when you receive 10 suggestions from 10 people on the list - how do you decide ? how do you know who is right ?"
And here is my answer: I'm studying homeopathy, and treating minor illnesses in my family from years now, successfully. The reason to turning to the forum is, that I feel, that being se close to her, it is hard to see clear. And also I honestly feel, that her wide manifesting problems are too complicated to me, to feel confident in one remedy. But, if I have 10 different suggestions - which is unlikely, if all the replying homeopaths are basing there advice on the same post I wrote - I would go through them, look up in the MM, and ask questions, if I'm not sure, why he/she adviced this or that way. Than they would answer, and I will learn from this dicussion - this is why I'm here after all.
And at the end, I know, that once I come across the right remedy, I will just think "Aha! Why I didn't thought of this earlier, this is so obvious!" - because I felt it many times before, and this is, how I would decide, after enough researching, discussion, reading and so on, which advice should I take.
I read through the posts of my friends case (Request Advice: dementia with depression) and still do not find a base to your assumption. You wrote there
"I have not repertorized your friend's case and moreover I would need to do a full case taking for the correct prescription. however, I did read through your posts and SILICEA came to my mind."
I was not sure, how did you mean this, and really sorry, if I hurt your feelings, by not taking your advice, or not asking you to fully repertorize her case (It was just unclear to me, if this is an offer on your part, that you would do that to me - sorry, but english is not my native language). I really didn't wanted you to feel outleft or something, and I would still welcome any suggestions on your part. It just seemed to me, that at that point, Calc. Carb. was the best suited remedy for her, and after using it and having great succes, I feel it more strongly now.
But I was not playing with her health - I'm avare of the possible problems of bad remedy selection or bad potency selection, and of the possible overmedication, but I was acting on my best knowledge. And my friend, being a mess two months ago, stuttering, deep depression and severe memory problems - she is now well, attending school, no stuttering, no depression. And all of this just by following the advices I'v got here, and taking Calc. Carb. C200 TWO TIMES in split dose! She is doing so great, I just can not believe!

And I'm in a similar situation like my friend: just like she, I can not afford to pay for a homeopathic treatment. So my only chance is to turn here - or just read and think and read and think and come up with a remedy myself. But I think the knowledgeable peoples on this forum are more capable to suggest me the right remedy, and this is why I turned here in the first place.
I hope there are others who won't think that by suggesting anything they, or me are endangering my daughter's health. You could believe me, that I'm really serious, and won't just walk through all the suggested remedies, but research them myself, and decide to my best knowledge - and not take one, till not sure.
Please once more: I'm really sorry could I had been writing things offending you, and I didn't intended to do so.

And to others who would be so generous to help with suggestions:
-I forgot to add, she had skin problems from babyhood: very hard-to-treat diaper rash, and later allergies to metal in the frame of the eyeglasses, and now athlete's foot.
- Also forgot to add, she wont blow her nose, in fear "those things would get onto her face"
This might be important.

Thanks in anvance to any help: Monika
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monika,

I just have 2 things to mention. may be that will help you and others.

1) treating minor illnesses for many years is no qualification. and please note that when I state "qualification" I do not mean any degree.

even a single dose of 200 C may aggravate badly.

you need expert care.

2) since you state that you are reading homoeopathy - let me clarify that
the mere disappearance of any symptom DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS CURED.
that could be outright suppression and HOMOEOPATHIC SUPPRESSION IS MUCH MORE DEEPER AND DANGEROUS. dr prafull vijayakar of bombay has made a great name internationally by teaching the importance of hering's laws in CURE and he clearly proves / teaches how even homoeo remedies can suppress.

I know it by first hand experience and I am sharing it with all those who read this posts. hard real facts and no vague theory or emotion here.

my initial education was in the allopathic field and I converted to homoeopathy because it helped me in my chronic headaches. my story is a that of a real hard journey. I was "treated" by many so called famous homoepaths and they left me and my health in a deeper mess - ALTHOUGH THE SYMPTOMS FOR WHICH I WOULD GO TO THEM - AGAIN AND AGAIN - WOULD VANISH FOR SOMETIME....I finally treated myself ! (and I am still sorting out the mess - they did with my vitality)

my sister suffered from nocturnal enuresis (bed wetting) when she was a child. one homoeopath gave 1 or 2 doses of sulphur and later many drops of equisetum. she stopped the bed wetting. my mother was happy. homoeopathy works great - she said !
it was after many years, when my sister became dull and depressed and a lot else ...that the truth became clear..........that was not cure but suppression.
I am still treating my sister.

this suppression can happen with mother tinctures / biochemics / potentized remedies.

moni - your intentions may be good, but you are not in a position to know what you are doing and where and why and how - it is all wrong.

I am doing homoepathy for many years and have qualifications (degrees) - but I STILL feel like a student and still correct my mistakes. the other day - I managed to cure an acute case of fever but could not cure another similar case. finally that needed antibiotics. I keep learning moni ji, and if you say that you can handle ALL acutes in your family, with only homeo, for years - you must be a great homeopath and much better than me, I must say.

did kent say this or clarke ? - it is better to go to a novice allopath than to go to a less than perfect homoeopath.

based on my experience, my sister's story and the experience that I have with many others - all I say is - please don't play with homoeopathy.

you say you cannot afford a homoepath -
where do you stay ? - send me a private email through this forum and if you are in my city - I will treat your daughter and friend - free of cost.

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PS: I looked up and you are in hungary. I am in india. so the treatment is not possible.

monica, if you want I can post a message on your behalf, on the homeolist.
may be some hungarian homeopath would like to treat your daughter and friend for free. let me know.
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Hello ppmoni,

I am not a homeopath and I have to say that I agree with Dr Agarwala. You can easily harm your child by misdiagnosing her case and enter her into a state from which you can not restore her yourself. Casual descriptions of Constitutionals often seem to match what your looking for even when they don't. Some people aggravate more easily than others - you can not predict. I have noticed this myself even as a layperson.

However, homeopaths vary wildly in skill, and being uninformed isn't a state I like to be in. So, my own approach is to use homeopaths for my children but to analyze their cases myself also. That way if the remedy isn't working or you feel that the homeopathic has missed something you can discuss it with them on a specific level.

I dont have any expensive software but use the available online reperatories and material medicas. The process I use is to first search for rubrics that I consider essential to the case (Mind rubrics that describe the essence of the child, plus physical symptoms of great intensity and frequency, or that are very unusual or specific, plus symptoms seen less often that are very bothersome to the patient). I enter these rubrics in a spread sheet and build a table of remedies that show up repetatively in them. This table grows as the analysis grows. The essential rubrics are highlited differently than the regular rubrics.

I then walk the reperatories searching for rubrics that match the case (any old rubric) and add them in. If they are essential and I just missed them before I hilite them appropriately, otherwise they just sit there and I know that I have assessed them. When done I update the spreadsheet so that all of the rubrics sum into totals at the top. The summing is done use 3 sets of filters. This lets me know what remedy is most strongly indicated. I build three different rows of totals:

o All rubrics
o leveled rubrics
o essential rubrics
Only the third row (the most highly filtered) is of importance. Your remedy should have almost all "YES"s in this column. If it doesn't you have missed something. The other rubrics are just there to give additional perspective on the case. Perhaps as symptoms change in intensity they may be added into the essential filter.

As a double check I also search the web for constitutional descriptions of remedies that have ranked highly. I rate these remedies from 1 to 5, 5 being highest, as to how closely the descriptions match the patient. I gather remedies descriptions from numerous sites to do this. Your chosen solution must both rank highest in the Totals and have a 5 in the evaluation. If it doesn't, your evaluation failed, and you need to work on the rubrics. If you use google and pattern search for a particular remedy with "homeopathic" you can often get info from sites that you don't have top down access to. This is handy. If its a protected site you can if you get one remedy from it you can guess on the particular extension and often get in. Some examples of sites I've collected are:

http://www.drlockie.com/rem_pics/rhu_tox.htm
http://www.homeoint.org/books/allkeyn/index.htm
http://www.homeoint.org/books/boericmm/c.htm
http://www.homeoint.org/cazalet/borlandchild.htm
http://www.homeoint.org/books2/nashtherap/grouping.htm
http://www.homeoint.org/books2/nashtherap/mmh22.htm
http://www.maljonicsdreams.com/constitutiontypes.htm
http://www.healing-arts.org/children...homeopathy.htm

I don't see a way of attaching objects here, I will send you the actual spreadsheet separately using email.

Best wishes to you,
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dr agarwala!

What I hear from your post is a bit of irony. But: maybe I'm just lucky, but I'm rising 4 children, and at least 5 years went by without them missing more than 3-5 days per year from school, beacause of illnesses.
To the paragraph you wrote, concerning the novice allopath: you may not like what I'm saying, but I just don't believe in allopathy. I'm not using it from some 10 years at all.

And now just one question for you: From what information, what I gave, do you know, or better do you think you know about what level my knowledge in homeopathy could be? How did you guessed it?
And why do you gave yourself the permission to selflearn homeopathy on the first place, and think it would be soo dangerous for me or anybody - just you?

And my last "question" would be: if you proves to me, that even going to famous homeopath gives no warranty to get good and safe homeoppathic care - why you advise me that the one and only way to act in this situation is to help a qualified homeopath? Even then it is up to my knowledge, to judge if his/her advice is based on good practisse or not...I won't take anything blindly, even from a qualified homeopath...
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It seems that there are two posts with almost identical details but differing names. The later one seems Polish?.
I gave the following reply to the later one - hope it may help you !!.
Your description is very complete and covers most of needed inf.
You have described a Pulsatilla character. Easy going up to a point - then brick wall time. The need to know everthing is a part of Sulphur [ the ragged trouser philosopher] but she is not that ,but Pulsatilla the plant has a high Sulphur content. The fair hair ,ear problems,reaction to wool garments, pale compexion I expect , and dislike of rich fatty foods are all parts of the Pulsatilla character ,as is thirstlessness , and it is very much a womans remedy . Forget the glands - it is possible to do more harm than good down that road.
Her periods may not start for years , so do not worry on that score . THe intelligence is there and sensitivity . Give her room and time to develop at her own pace . I'd suggest the use of Pulsatilla 3x or 6x . 1 tab am & pm for a week leave for a week and repeat [ ie every other week ] plus once a month 1 tab of 10m .
What history is there of any of the miasmic problems in the family history of you or your husband. It may be necessary to use a nosode , to get the case moving .
Big mistake to have any child under age 2 yrs vaccinated - at that age they havent go an immune system. Cows milk may be best eliminated - too many pharmacetical prducts fed to cattle . Personally I only use Soya Milk .
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I fully agree with the statement of Dr Manish Agarwale. Homeopathy is not only to find a remedy but much more. I compare it with playing golf, where also the “goal” is very simple but in practise it is very difficult and it takes a long time to learn to master this game (basically you never will). When playing golf you must be able to read the course (in homeopathy to take the case) then decide in which glob direction to play to ball (in homeopathy to select the remedy) and then how far to hit the ball (in homeopathy to select the potency). If everything is optimal you have a hole in one (correct remedy and potency) and “game over”. However in golf it is seldom one has a hole in one and therefore one must be able to master the second strike and also in Homeopathy one must master the second prescription and what to do if things are really wrong? (Many things can go wrong in golf, hitting the bunger, loosing the ball etc.). It is the same in homeopathy one must be able to handle such cases and master the case management and even the masters seldom has a hole in one because this is in practice impossible one have to follow the case as understand the development of the case.

With the reply from Passkey we have exactly the problem that Dr Manish Agarwale pointed out you get 10 different remedies and I would NOT consider Pulsatilla in this case.
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Thank you for the advice Passkey!
I looked up her case focusing on Pulsatilla and also on Silicea (ans a little wink on Phos.) and many things are on each sides.
I'm a little bit more on Silicea at the moment, but her thirstlessness I think is a main issue in her. Thirstlessness, scratching her throat and not being able to stand up for herself: these would be the 3 main things if I would have to choose just 3.

Silicea:
- she can not stand up for herself
- she had an issue with milk: one is the temperature lowering, and the other is, that for years she hated it, now she like it, not overly, but drink 2-3 glasses a day.
- the first sign of the visual problem appeared after the first vaccination. (she got three, before I let myself realise it, and said NO to any more vaccines.)
- she many times gives way to others's wishes. But is seems, that it is not from being so shy, rather she just won't spend energy to stand up her wishes. She say: ?OK? but you could see on her face it is not OK for her, and she is dissappointed, but don't have enough energy to argue.
- her feet are bad smelling, no matter what she wash them with.
- her stools have very offensive smell.

not Silicea:
- she shows emotions, and really that's all: if you look at her, it is obvious if she had some problem, feeling hurt, sad or something ? she just won't tell it unless you insist and insist.
- Silicea make up her mind, and may listen to other's opinion, but if it differ from her's, she won't tell, just do it her way. But she, if she has a strong opinion on a FACT, she would tell, and argue, and became irritated, angry, and frustrated, if she is unable to make others accept it as a true fact. She could became so angry and frustrated on small things (like tomato is a fruit or vegetable) that it looks to me, her head will soon burst, and she won't stop it for anything.
- she is not chilly. Or better to say, she's chilly many times in the early morning, no matter how warm the room is, BUT she feels warm in the evening, takes off her pijama, and complain of being hot.
- she isn't thirsty at all. She would go a full day without drinking, and in the evening, she ask, what drink is available, but if only water, then she would go to sleep without drinking, if I would let her.
- she has no problem with her apetite. The opposit is true: she always ate much, but her body seemed to use it poorly.
- she LIKES salt

Pulsatilla:
- she (would be) short
- had a disposition to earache
- she makes decision very hardly. It really consumes much energy on her part.
- she don't like too hot weather, and complain much in the summer, asking to spray her with ice-water to cool down.
- she isn't thirsty.
- she is sensitiv to noise. If we would travel by train, she holds her ears when the train arrives, cause she can not bear the loud noise of the nearing train.
- she is very reluctant to any physical work, should it be walking, or just cleaning up in her room.
- she is sensual, with strong sexual drive. I know this from overhearing some things she told her siblings. Maybe this is just puberty, but maybe not.
- she hears human voce a little less than optimal: many times questions back what was said right before.

not Pulsatilla:
- she won't wake early. To the contrary: she would sleep to noon, if I would let her to. (But in another MM I read Puls. can not sleep early in the night and sleeps late in the morning ? in this case it describes just her.)

Phosphorus:
- I read that the Phos. many time has a red tinge in her hair. This is what I'm jelaous of her , that beautiful red tinge over her dark brown hair.
- she is sensitive to the meteorological changes: her bones are aching, when there will be a storm coming.
- she likes salt and salty foods
- she is VERY worried of her health. For years I could not let her watch any films on TV about sicknesses, because after seeing one about leukemia, she had bad dreams of being leukemic, and worried for weeks, if she might be. Any mentioning concerning her health makes her worrying overly.

not Phosphorus:
- she is not thirsty at all.

And some other things what came to my mind, which would be important:
- She is afraid of bees, and panic if an insect is nearing her. She won't go outside the house much from spring to autumn, because of this fear.
- She won't eat any fruit, unless she can inspect it in the inside, that it didn't contain worms.
- She just LOVE swimming in water. In summer, if we are on the beach, she wouldn't come out of it for hours on. She also said that it is the best thing in the world to swim, and be in the water.

Any suggestions after reading all these?

Thanks: Monika
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