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Old 11th October 2004, 04:51 PM
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Hi,
We live in a section of the country that has quite a bit of lyme. My husbands family also, seems to have an extra susceptability to it. Two of my childrens second cousins and one aunt have gotten it. Rheumatic ailments are also prevalent in the family which makes me wonder if succeptability to lyme could be related to the same condition that gives a tendency towards rhematic ailments later in life.

My question is what do you think of the homeopathic immunization for lyme using lyme nosode?

My instinct is to avoid it as an overstimulation of the system with possible negative impact but then I see all the posts on the homeopathic flu vacinne and I'm not sure....

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Old 11th October 2004, 05:53 PM
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We live in a section of the country that has quite a bit of lyme. My husbands family also, seems to have an extra susceptability to it. Two of my childrens second cousins and one aunt have gotten it. Rheumatic ailments are also prevalent in the family which makes me wonder if succeptability to lyme could be related to the same condition that gives a tendency towards rhematic ailments later in life.
If someone fell ill with lyme-disease-like-symptoms, homeopathy is definitely a sound method of treatment.

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what do you think of the homeopathic immunization for lyme using lyme nosode?
Well, it would NOT be homeopathy.
It wouldn't even be isopathy because no 'infection' would have occurred, for which to treat.

With homeopathy you can only prescribe on what is present.
No symptoms ='s no case (for which to prescribe).
In other words, we can't prescribe for something that has not happened yet!
~(same goes for kooky advice I've seen given to people who ask about dental treatment. Someone always replies -- oh, take Arnica BEFORE the procedure... on what symptoms?! anyway......)

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My instinct is to avoid it as an overstimulation of the system with possible negative impact but then I see all the posts on the homeopathic flu vacinne and I'm not sure....
Your instinct is spot on .

Just coz one sees a lot of posts on some 'homeopathic' 'flu vaccine'...well, frankly, there's no just such thing. Not in homeopathy.
It's allopathic prescribing and that just ain't homeopathy any way anyone slices it.
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Old 11th October 2004, 06:38 PM
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Hi LisaAnna,

Thankyou so much for replying.

The safest, best solution would be to have a trained homeopath at hand to act on symptoms as they arise (lyme, flu, cold, etc) and heal the child appropriately, but that isn't really our environment. Perhaps in some situations giving the nosode would be the better of a few non-optimal choices?

If I innoculate - this is non-homeopathic and places a stress on the childs system but maybe it will prevent lyme. The negative consequences of the nosode is hopefully less than the consequences of lyme not adequately diagnosed.

If I don't innoculate I risk the children getting lyme. We already suspect that they may have an increased vulnerability to contracting it and we are also living in a high risk area. This is very real to us as we have seen first hand the devastating results of undiagnosed cases of lyme within our immediate family.

If they get lyme the first person to treat them will be me. I usually handle the flu's, bites, rashes etc that they get. I won't necessarily analyze the case right, recognize the lyme, or make the right choices to resolve it.

The next thing that would happen, if I couldn't resolve their sickness, is that we would bring them to an allopathic physician. The allopathic physician may well miss the diagnosis or it may take several months before the diagnosis is made correctly.

So maybe, even though the lyme nosode isn't the best choice in our particular situation it may be the best of several not perfect choices?

Just some thoughts,
I'm very interested in what you think,

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Hello Beachrose,
Well, it's kinda sounding like you're trying to convince yourself...bless your heart.
I can totally understand the predicament you find yourself in. Having said that, I've been in similar circumstances with a very sick child (on more than one occasion) where I was absolutely beside myself with worry - not having a homeopath at hand, and not knowing how to help my child. And, we got help here (long ago); there was a lot of support -- and we got through it. And, I'm not talking about a simple cold either. Now, we have a homeopath who we consult by phone and that works great for us (she's sees us whenever we're in her area occasionally).

Basically, I cannot, in good conscience say "yeh, okay, immunization ('homeopathic' or otherwise) is the least of the evil options - so go for it" because I know all too well how damaging it can be. If you compromise their little systems by treating them before they come down with lyme-like symptomalogy - then you are actually inhibiting their own (already weakened?) defenses. Can you see what I mean?

I'd say you're better off leaving them alone -- making sure their diets are healthy; making darn sure you check them for ticks during the tick season. Watch carefully for any symptoms and at the very first hint of anything - consult a homeopath -- be it in person or online.

Online is never my first option, but it's a heckuva lot better than going some 'immunization' route that compromises their cases at best, and doesn't work, for the sake of 'ease'. Believe me -- it won't put your mind at ease, because you ALREADY have nagging doubts about this route (rightly so)!! Hans Weitbrecht is a very effective homeopath; and he takes online cases (first he assess them before accepting the case) -- so maybe an alternative like this would be the best route to take. And, there are a few others who are good too....you could ask for recommendations here of who's really had good results with whom...just be very selective, would be my advice.

I'm sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear. I do understand your situation, though! Best wishes,
Lisa
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Old 11th October 2004, 07:06 PM
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Hi Lisa,

Actually it is want I want to hear
It makes me feel secure to have an empatic statement against the nosode.
Then I don't have to feel like I should be investigating something!

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Actually, I'm wondering (because I don't know!) if the nosode has even been proven or not!!??? Does anyone know? Divina (where is she?!), Louise, Hans, Chris -- anyone?
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what if lyme is contracted despite the apparent prophylactic use of lyme nosode? then back to same predicament..

.rheumatic tendencies in family history does not in fact make one more susceptable to lyme..in fact may have quite opposite effect if rheumatic condition is active.. as well as stronger (more potent). and similar enough to lyme disease...

and need consider how often need to repeat dose to ensure protection ? and what if proving symptoms occur (due to susceptability)?

as you see immunization theory is fear based---thus a carry over to any system of treatment---fear is dangerous---

so back to square one--what does one do? not just with lyme but any disease that may come along? if fear had its way we all be immunized for every imaginable 'evil'--yet has evil ceased to exist?

what does one do? ANSWER = make a choice one can live with--and stick to it til it doesnt work--"--commitment to ones immediate principles...much better than saying "i should have"

when lyme rheumatic symptomology is occuring---2 drops /2 times a day---lessen if aggravtion occur (adjust as need) tincture of dipsacus sylvestris (teasel root)
but homoeopathically can be dealt with-when ocurr...
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