dear homeolist,
clarke mentions under natrum mur, that he gave nat.m 1M to a patient and there was aggr./proving. he gave nat.m CM and this cleared up the aggravated state ! this sounds unusual to me. I have read this kind of idea elsewhere as well and I do not understand it. I do understand if it is said that rhus tox in potentised form can remove the bad effects of a direct exposure to poison ivy, but I do not understand how nat.m CM can help when nat. m. 1M has created trouble. I would expect more aggr. if I did that.
any comments ?
dr manish agarwala

Kent states that higher potencies will correct problems raised by lower potencies. Following his advice I have often used Nat mur 10m/cm to bring a case back to square one after it has been "spoiled" .
It is reasonable if you accept that the higher potencies have a stronger relation to the mental sphere. If your case has physical symptoms and you have used 30c then it may be that the physical are related to mental problems - in which case it is better to use a higher potency.

Boeninghausen listed remedies so similar in their action that they antidote (opposite action) each other. This principle you quote sounds as if it is extended here however because the same remedy is used in a different dilutation I would simply expect a redirection of the vital force into a modified and "gentler" reaction to the too high dilutation if the remedie is the similimum. Magery Blackie is known to have used higher dilutations to achieve this modified response to a remedy also. The fact that the vital force is then redirected by a further stimulus is the antidoting action.
"....it is possible that when the aggravation from this dose takes place, a second dose of the same remedy may produce the contrary, and thus bring about a lasting improvement,......" Hahnemann (sorry cant remember which #). Kent - "the similar remedy is most likely of all others to antidote that drug". This all with respect to the enantiopathic remedie rather than the similimum.

merrilee

Silicea in lower potencies ripen abscess by promoting suppuration wheras it restrain the supprative process in higher potencies.

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well I do hear things like this but I do not understand.

I understand that lyco can antidote merc prot. iod but I cannot understand how can natrum mur CM help when natrum mur 1M has created trouble.
I would never do that. I would expect more aggr.

I have read a few posts on homeolist with the suggestion that natrum mur be prescribed in homeopathically disordered cases. what does it mean ?
does it mean that natrum mur can be prescribed in ALL cases (without any indication) which are labelled as 'homeopathically disordered' ?
or does it mean that nat mur may be given in any / all cases whenever there is ANY trouble ?
I fail to get the idea or the logic behind this idea.
dr manish agarwala

Dr. Manish,

Is it not in accordance with the "Let like cure likes"?

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organon paragraphs 275-282

Hello,

It was discussed that whether higher potencies of any remedy can antidote the lower potencies of same remedy. It looks quite logical under consideration of 'Let like cure likes'. Suppose there is an accumulation of common salt in body presenting symptoms of Nat. Mur & the same can be treated by Nat.Mur. Potencies. Accumulated salt here in due to crude/raw remedy substance & treatment is by potentized Nat.Mur.

Under this consideration, It is quite logical to consider & add to our knowledge that:-

" Lower potencies of any remedy should act & be treated somewhat alike crude or raw remedy substance for the next higher potencies of the same remedy".

"Under the above thought, next higher potencies of any remedy should be able to antidote, treat, correct or cure the effects created by the lower potencies of the same remedy."

Your comments on this concept are welcomed.

Best wishes.

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dear kayveeh,

as per your arguement it seems that we need not look for any antidotes (whether the aggr is similar or dissimilar) and all that needs to be done is to give a higher potency of the same remedy. is that what you mean ?

so if thuja 1M aggravates - I give thuja CM ?

I don't understand this logic. I would be expecting aggravation.

dr manish agarwala

Hello Dr. Manish,

When I mentioned as crude or raw remedy substance--it means similar effects as aggravation or proving symptoms. Pls also look at this:-

When any remedy (true similimum) is selected & prescribed in lower potencies, showing no effects or adverse effects as aggravation, proving symptoms etc.--can be due to lower potency selection instead of wrong remedy. Under this circumstance, it can be a mistake to change the remedy but suggesting higher potencies can produce the required effects on right direction.

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