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Old 23rd August 2004, 07:46 PM
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Do I misunderstand something or would the remedy for an imperforate hymen be one that caused an imperforate hymen during proving? In that case I doubt if it is recorded, even if such a remedy should exist .

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Hans, Don't worry this is problem with homeopath that after reading too much once develop a slight loosing of brain screw, soon you will hear from him that a constitutional remedy done the same job (rupture the hymen) which a hard organ failed to achieve. Now you should have clear idea that how much homeopathy is strong and what can a homeopathic remedy do where .....?

and about your proving question, a member posted more or less the same post in another forum. are you that person

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STOMACH - HERNIA; HIATUS abies-n. carb-v. rob.sulph.


The rubric means , during the proving of abies-n, or carbo-veg, or robinia or sulph, upper part of the stomach protruded upward through the opening of diaphram, which resulted in appearance of internal hernia. Was that happen during the proving of these remedies or symptoms of hiatus hernia like were produced? robin wrote hepatitis remedies this does not mean that hepatitis was produced during proving. Robin coined the symptoms and wrote in the name of disease.
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Moalij: No that was not me, I always post as MRC_Hans. However, the question is quite valid, so I'll stick my head out and, at the risk of again being labelled a troll, ask: Since homeopaths claim to be able to cure a wide range of diseases (some say all), we have to assume that all of those diseases were recorded as caused by the remedies in healthy persons during provings? I can read the MM myself, but some of the symtoms fill me with puzzlement: Did the remedies REALLY cause that in test subjects?

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Hans, during a proving, it's the experience of the disease rather than the actual disease that is produced. Lets take a remedy that produces a runny nose and fever and a few days later a blotchy rash that starts on the face. When we have a kid with measles, we might think of this remedy as a possible prescription. It doesn't mean that measles were produced during the proving. Often times when repertories have remedies listed under measles, it is a clinical SX, i.e., in clinical practice, the remedy has been found to be effective when someone has measles. In this case, the rubrics which would comprise the symptoms of measles were not necessarily produced during a proving. As for a hernia, the proving may have produced the same sensation that someone with a hernia would experience, but, as far as I know, none of the provings have ever produced actual pathological tissue changes.
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Hans, during a proving, it's the experience of the disease rather than the actual disease that is produced. Lets take a remedy that produces a runny nose and fever and a few days later a blotchy rash that starts on the face. When we have a kid with measles, we might think of this remedy as a possible prescription. It doesn't mean that measles were produced during the proving. Often times when repertories have remedies listed under measles, it is a clinical SX, i.e., in clinical practice, the remedy has been found to be effective when someone has measles. In this case, the rubrics which would comprise the symptoms of measles were not necessarily produced during a proving. As for a hernia, the proving may have produced the same sensation that someone with a hernia would experience, but, as far as I know, none of the provings have ever produced actual pathological tissue changes.
I see. Rather convinient, I have to say .

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Hans, during a proving, it's the experience of the disease rather than the actual disease that is produced. Lets take a remedy that produces a runny nose and fever and a few days later a blotchy rash that starts on the face. When we have a kid with measles, we might think of this remedy as a possible prescription. It doesn't mean that measles were produced during the proving.
What Shirley said for rest of the materia medica symptoms is abstly right but regarding this symptom "STOMACH - HERNIA; HIATUS abies-n. carb-v. rob.sulph." this is all fraud. No hiatus hernia was proved during the proving of above mentioned medicines.


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The rubric means , during the proving of abies-n, or carbo-veg, or robinia or sulph, upper part of the stomach protruded upward through the opening of diaphram, which resulted in appearance of internal hernia. Was that happen during the proving of these remedies or symptoms of hiatus hernia like were produced?
Who ever this person is, he/she very rightly pointed out the wrong interpretation of proving.
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