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Old 23rd August 2004, 02:02 PM
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dear friends

i am looking for the rubric 'imperforate hymen'. (this is the condition where the hymen is so inelastic/tough that it does not rupture during the first sexual intercourse - rather penetration itself is impossible.)

i did not find this rubric in synthesis 7.1 repertory. the rep does have vaginismus as a rubric but vaginismus and imperforate hymen are two different things.

does plat. have it ? i don't know.
the mind picture of the female patient looks like plat and plat has sexual issues. the "vaginismus, coition impossible" rubric also has plat.

i would like to hear from you.

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dr. Manish, As far as I think, an imperforate hymen needs surgery.

Are you planning to give a remedy for that? I don't think it is something to be repertorized. But that's just my opinion.
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Old 23rd August 2004, 03:31 PM
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dear dr leela

- surgery is always an option, dr leela - but that is the final option. our constitutional remedies can work quite deeply. all allopaths would recommend circumcision for phimosis but a homeopath knows that our remedies can cure phimosis.

- as a final solution, i would say yes to surgery for imperforate hymen. but that is when my remedy fails. again, even if surgery is done for this - one should not forget that this defect also reflects a deep underlying constitutional disorder. it involves the entry point of the genitals and so it may be a deep venereal miasm. surely, even after surgery - i would think about constitutional remedy and consider this as an important rubric. surgery or no surgery, constitutional remedy is needed.

- i read you post on allowing vacinations and that the consitutional similimum will take care of the vaccine assault. i agree with you technically, that the consitutional similia is the best protection. however, i would say that saying yes to vaccine assault in any situation is inviting a vaccinosis layer. you may read vithoulkas talks on classical homeo, chap medorrh. GV makes interesting comments there.
we homeopaths should not fall prey to the allopathic programming. the issue of vaccinations and surgery are 2 danger areas where the homeopaths succumb to allopathic programming.

- will reply to your post on the merc / lac can case tonight.


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Dr Manish,
We still have to live in this world and whatever dominates it. One can read anything... - its good to develop a homeopathic mindset anyway.
And haven't most people succumbed to allopathic programming already? HAven't you already had vaccinations as a child?

I'm still sceptical about what a constitutional remedy is going to do for an imperforate hymen that already exists. Are you suggesting that your patient wait till the constitutional remedy begins to work on the imperforate hymen? That's even presuming one does give the correct constitutional remedy....

Remember, Idealism has its place, and then there is reality. Each decision has to be made with a balance of what is suitable to the situation.

Don't worry about my post on Merc, unless there is something more left to discuss. You may give whatever you find suitably indicated, as its your pateint and you have met him personally. I hope it was helpful.
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Dr. Manish, despite your best intentions, please don't [edit] suggest[ing] such things.

If a patient with logical reasoning is under your treatment, he will give you a tough time.
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dear fitness

it depends, how you look at things.

"a patient with logical reasoning" will understand that an isolated local symptom is not the only issue in holistic treatment.

as far as the particular case of imperforate hymen is concerned - the patient is a newly wed and her husband brought her to me. i immediately suggested a minor surgery (which i am myself capable of doing) under local anaesthesia. it is a matter of minutes. i told the couple that the constitutional remedy may take some time to work and they might be impatient to consummate the relationship. the husband replied that he loves his wife and her well being comes first. he also told me that he did not try to force himself on her and would not try to do so, even if that ruptures the hymen naturally.he does not want to hurt her at all. (there is a bit of difference in western thinking vs indian thinking.)

the husband is an old patient of mine and understands the value of constitutional treatment. taking a balance view of the situation - i have put the lady on platinum
LM 0/3 (remedy decided on the basis of rest of her symptoms. imperforate hymen rubric not found in rep.) and advised them to come to me / or see a lady gynae. for the surgery, if things don't get ok within 7-15 days. i have told the couple that the remedy will be continued even after the surgery. the husband understands this. husband and wife left very satisfied.

thanks for your post.

dr manish agarwala

PS: please don't doubt that homeopathy works. it works much more deeply than many think. no idealism - reality debate here, as dr leela suggests.
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I hope you have ruled out the other possibilities e.g. erectile problems & the girl being very tense at the time of intercourse.
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Dr Manish,
We still have to live in this world and whatever dominates it. One can read anything... - its good to develop a homeopathic mindset anyway.
And haven't most people succumbed to allopathic programming already? HAven't you already had vaccinations as a child?

I'm still sceptical about what a constitutional remedy is going to do for an imperforate hymen that already exists. Are you suggesting that your patient wait till the constitutional remedy begins to work on the imperforate hymen? That's even presuming one does give the correct constitutional remedy....

Remember, Idealism has its place, and then there is reality. Each decision has to be made with a balance of what is suitable to the situation.
dr. leela
Under this consideration, is it not indicative that whole homeopathic system comes under big ? mark? Personal choice of the patient matters in these type of cases to go to homeopathic slow treatment or surgery.
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I have always been a proponent of one system "integrative medicine" wherein we use the best of all. (btw its not a new concept, Dr. Weil has initiated it) as it has the best interest of the patient in view and not a system of medicine.

e.g. Surgery, Herbs, Chineese, Hakeems, Acupuncture, Osteopathy etc.
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