The 3 yr daughter of a friend got chicken pox despite being vaccinated , when I mentioned this to the doctor he said that this can happen

If this can happen & the disease in question is benign, why go through the suffering twice

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Hi Fitness,
The possiblity of the Hepatitis B vaccination being helpful would be for risk groups - people who are exposed to the possibility of being infected with the virus - lab technicians, surgeons, etc.
There is still the question of whether the vaccination actually provides immunity against disease for that individual person - as you mentioned what happened in the case of the chicken pox vaccine.
This does not just happen "sometimes"!

My husband chose to take the vaccine though, - he's not in a risk group...

Hans,
I was being a bit sarcastic about our illiteracy and diseased conditions.

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Seems you are right about both (chicken pox = varicella):
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/recs/child-schedule.pdf

Now, infants getting Hep. b have a 90% risk of progressing to the cronic state which amolst invariablyy causes liver cancer in 20-30 years, so it IS a VERY serious disease, but I would have thought the risk profile was very low in most places in the US.

One site with explanation for the Chicken Pox shot is here:

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/1725.html


Hans

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Kara, I'm so glad you raised the question of vaccination in the NHS. I am looking to apply to train as a midwife, but as a trained homoeopath I am worried about having to have the Hep B vaccination. I have tried to find a way round it, but the NHS will only accept vaccination and no alternative. The really bad thing is that I wont know if I have been accepted until February and the course starts in September, by which time I should have already started the course of vaccination. If I dont get in, then I will have put my body through needless vaccination.

Regards
Ina

But surely you would be able to treat any side effects that you might incur, with homeopathy?

Hans

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Hans, thanks for the link.

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Yes, Hans it's true I can treat side effects with homoeopathy, but I really feel it would be better to not have the vaccine at all, but as discussed earlier it appears to be mandatory and so I have to bite the bullet!

VACCINES ARE DANGEROUS.

CHA R LES TAYLOR ------IN ATLANTA GEORGIA ---- MAJORCA DAILY BULLETIN 7/11/1986
IN A NORTHEAST Atlanta warehouse, more that, 40 million doses of swine influenza vaccine, in cold storage since 1976, await a government decision for disposal.
The vials of vaccine, re*minders of America’s big’ swine flu scare a decade ago, have not been checked for potency in the last two years and their eventual fate is unknown, said officials of the National Centre for Disease Control.
`Ten years ago, Federal Health Authorities Iaunched an unprecedented national Campaign to vaccinate millions of Americans against an expected onslaught of a potent influenza strain they believed would strike 50 to 60 million US citizens.
Virologists said the virus. was the same, or closely related to, the flu agent that in 1918 killed 548,452 Americans and 21 million world wide in the greatest plague of modern times.
On October 1, 1976 after many delays, the $135 million federally funded inoculation program got under way at public clinics across the country. The funds were sufficient to pay for 200 miIIion doses of Vaccine in history’s first national effort to immunise an entire population against a major disease.
Ten weeks later on December 16, 1976 the CDC suspended the program after it received reports that some vaccine recipients contracted a type of paralysis known as Guillian-Barre syndrome . It was indefinitely called off as evidence mounted that the paralysis and the vaccine might be linked.
A total of 43 million Americans received inoculations but the expected swine flu’ epidemic never occurred. After initial cases among army recruits at Fort Dix, New Jersey, in February 1976, one of them fatal, only a handful of similar. infections were reported to the CDCs nationwide surveillance .system, proving once again the unpredictable nature of the flu virus.
The government, which had insured the vaccine manufacturers against damage suits, was faced :with millions of dollars in claims by individuals who said they became paralysed after being immunised with the vaccine. . So popular we were such lawsuits that a legal specialty developed around filing Guillian Barre claims aims against theGovt; a Federal Judge awarded a Scranton Pennsylvanian , woman $3.9 million .
The CDC’s heretofore spotless reputation as the worlds premier health organisation and the agency playing a leading role at that time in eradicating smallpox from the world was blemished. Federal immunisation programs, especially its flu vaccination efforts, were called into question. There were other repercussions. Dr David J. Spencer, Assistant Surgeon General and CDC director, who came under heavy fire for recommending the national immunisation program to then President Gerald Ford, resigned his post.
Spencer’s colleagues, 10 years later, said the CDC director made the correct decision based on information available to him at the time. The fact that he got canned for it is political history, not scientific history,,, said Dr Donald Millar, who was coordinator of CDC’s swine flu task force and is currently director of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health.
Spencer after leaving CDC for worked for a drug firm until he became Commissioner of Public Health for New York city He now is with a private company,. Management Science for Health, in Boston.
Dr Alan Hinman director of the a CDC’s Immumisation Division, also said Spencer’s decision for a national ,immuriisation program was correct .
Millar said there are several scientific mysteries posed by the nation’s swine flu. Experience. What happened to the virus after its first appearance at Fort Dix, New Jersey? How did the army recruit who died, Private David Lewis, contract the virus?. And we never figured out what it was in that vaccine jug that made people get Guillain Barre., he said.* UPI

For more info read up Dr Moskowitz- vaccine lodges in cells when they`penetrate the cell wall and are the reason the body´s immune system attacks its own tissues!!!

Hiya everyone, thanks for your replies. Do not know if I have got job yet, but I have decided that if I do get the job (and if the vaccine is mandatory) then I will not take the job because it is very poor pay - I could get something that was better paid and without the risks of vaccines (also as well as Hep B, I may need to have more Tetanus, Polio shots - no thanks! (I asked about mandatory vaccines at the interview and they said they didn't know if they were mandatory they would have to ask another dept)).

However, if I can avoid the vaccines I would probably take the job if I was offered it because it would be good experience and good hours!

Thanks again for your help
Kara