dear members,

i would like to draw your attention to an article on carcinosin by dr tinus smits. it mentions how carc. prepared from different sources / tumours may act differently and how the remedy "carcinosin" may be different from one pharmacy to the other.

http://www.tinussmits.nl/english/dynamic.htm?main=http://www.tinussmits.com/english/inspiring/carcinosinum/intro.htm


a) does the source / origin of carcinosin make that big a difference in results as dr smits says ?

b)what is, in your opinion, the best prepration / pharmacy for carc in centesimals ? in LM ?

what is the highest potency of carc that you have used ?

c) have you tried and used 'carc cum cuprum' ?
do you have more info on ' carc cum cuprum' ?
how to differentiate this 'carc cum cuprum' with carc - clinically ?

d) does any pharmacy make 'carc cum cuprum' ( may be listed as 'cuprum cum carc' ) in LM s ?

e) is carc in LMs strong enough to wipe out the cancer miasm or do we need the high centesimals ?

kind regards

dr manish agarwala

Have used carsinosin for many things . The highest potency I have used is cmm which helped a woman with thyroid problems - one dose would hold good for about 12 weeks. Have used 10m on twins who would not sleep at night - worked fine . The best source of info on this is Dr Foubister who wrote fully on it .

What thyroid problems did the woman have?

I use it in 30 200 and 1M potencies.

strange, but i found that using carcinosinum is so restricted by collegues. Good information about the indications are like written : Tinus Smits, also Sankaran in the soul of the remedies and also from Grandgeorges Didier.

In our practice we came to use Carcinosinum from Dolisos. I used several times Carcinosinum from Homeoden and experienced by myself that from Dolisos is really deep acting.
In the use i start always with 200K and go sometimes to MK. Not higher... in my practice. Because of (instead of mentionned in forum) not so big aggravations, i do not use LM potention. The other remedies of Saccharum off and lac maternum and Vernix give more aggravations and have good results with 6 LM or 12LM and can be repeated just to ammelioration.
I use sometimes Carcinosinum-cum cuprum (all remedies can be found by dolisos)

The difference between Carcinosinum and carcinosinum-cum-cuprum is the more controlling state of this last remedy. It is only mentionned in Tinus Smits.

My feeling is that in carcinosinum you feel a strong sensitiveness and also story of familial or parental control and fastidiousness. In cuprum you may feel more about mineral or structure. The controling is more material. This is only feeling but i had two cases of Carcinosinum cum cuprum where i started with carcinosinum but after a time i had to go to cuprum (according repertory symptoms)... but cuprum helped for some time but did not stay longer time. Several times i had to switch and there was no other remedy coming in. So this two people need sometimes their carcinosinum cum cuprum. This was also the feeling of Tinus Smits when mixing this remedies.

(Tinus Smits limits his remedies to 9 in his inspiring homeopathy; personally i use sometimes his remedies and his way of thinking is very interesting but it is not totally my system of working)

In some cases carcinosinum helps as a turning-point remedy and helps people react or come up for their rights. There is a lot of suppression, coping with situations and not have the chance to react (chaotic, controlling, guilty feelings, some feeling of beïng incarcerated in situation). From Grandgeorges didier is coming the idea of keeping secret (you have not to tell this things...) and suppression of feelings. I can really confirm that this remedy , like he says, is a turning-point. It helps you to say 'NO' and react.

The fear of the use of carcinosinum is not substanciated.
Otherwise it can help us to find the connection to other so known Cancer-remedies (not in the way of producing cancer, but in the way of overcontrolling, guilty feelings, history of suppression).
In this view we must look for Cancer-miasm of Sankaran. (Ignatia, Staphysagria, Conium, Anacardium, Asarum...)


The question about the differential of Lac caninum and Carcinosinum is interesting because i have also the feeling that there is a strong connection but not in the direction of the source of the remedy (breastcancer and lactation). Both have strong suppression but the way of reacting is differential. Lac caninum will curs after reprimands and react strongly; Carcinosinum will suppress and hide themself .
Problem is that you need a feeling of the person in Carcinosinum and that repertorising will not give the result.

thank you fons for a great reply.
dr manish