dear homeolist

i would like to discuss the remedies that are effective in removing the vaccinial taint (particularly small pox).

kent mentions thuja as an antidote for all types of vaccines but vithoulkas says that it is a specific antidote for small pox only.

i have a case with me with many constitutional troubles. this case has been treated by 3 other homeopaths, with partial cure. a detailed investigation revealed that small pox vaccine is the cause of the trouble.
the grandfather and g'mother are sick, the father is very sick and the grandson (a young man, the patient) is very very sick. they have all had small pox shots. the shots "took" the max with the g'father and the least with the patient - the g'son. the patient is 36 years old.

i checked with the other homeopaths and they told me :- he has received thuja (upto CM) by 2 other homeopaths - twice. severe aggravation and rashes on neck appeared each time. his sleep and paraphimosis improved but full cure did not happen. later one other homeopath tried to give thuja again in LMs - only aggr and no cure. the patient was also given silicea high. medorrh failed ( has produced only aggr and burning in urethra.) sulphur has also failed.

patient has a weak memory and prone to anxiety. he is worried that he may get diabetes.(his father and g'father have it). the chief complaint of the patient is "syrupy urine - like sugar solution. with sweet smell"
reddish eruptions on foreskin. sexual desire high. prone to insomnia and anxiety. cough and cold tendency. high thirst. all the typical mental and physical symptoms of sycosis miasm except warts / condylomata.

the patient's sister has nocturnal enuresis and his brother is a mental patient. patient's uncle has chronic sneezing (25 - 100 times a day) for 10 years. diabetic father and g'father. g'father had cerebral stroke.
years ago - g' mother was admitted to a mental asylum for some time and given " treatment " (electric shock ?).

here the case seems to be the bad effects of vaccination *genetically inherited*. is it same as the rubric "supressed gonorrhoea" or
" vaccination - after " or " vaccination - bad effects". ?

here this seems more the bad effects of small pox vaccination - which is inherited than the bad effects due to / after the vaccine shot.
again, thuja, medorrh, silicea, sulphur have failed.

the case is confused and a clear constitutional similimum was not found. strictly speaking thuja, medorrh or sil. are not his constitutional remedies. however, thuja did give partial relief and eruptions appeared on the neck.

i have looked at all the remedies in the thuja family - sabina, juniperis etc and they don't seem to fit either.

any suggestions ?

is vaccinium / variolinum effective in inherited vaccinosis or are they specific for vaccinosis after the shot ?

what about malandrinum ?

dr manish agarwala

patient ever treated for any veneral dis-eaeses?

concerning 'rash' that appeared on neck after thuja---did patient ever have such rash before in life?

what characteristics/condition of fingernails ?

This patient should be tested for diabetes. Some of the symptoms are indicative of diabetes and there is a family history for the disease. If patient has diabetes, he is in risk of irreversible long-term effects if he does not come under treatment.

I know it is not popular to say this, but: You taky a serious liability on yourself if you let time pass experimenting with remedies while your patient incurs irreversible damage from an untreated diabetes.

Hans

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as one who knows little about diabetes, i have to agree the patient should be tested for it and followed for any necessary conventional intervention, but also for the help this might give in adding to/clarifying current state as you continue repping the case to find better similimum.

but, my own developing atttitude makes me look at this case and suggest that, if thuj has presented itself as an effective remedy - it helps - but the patient aggravates, the next reasonable step to take is to re-dose with thuj, but a smaller dose ... much smaller. depending on how severe you judge the agg to have been, if he's been on a teaspoon, drop to a single pellet ... or olfaction, even brief olfaction: the "smallest" dose can be very very small, and if you go too small, there will be no reaction, no healing, but also no agg and you can go to another small-but-not-quite-so-small dose in fairly short order, as soon as you are clear there is no reaction.

as a very extreme sensitive, i have felt that homeopaths seem typically to forget about the importance of the smallest dose, and i have found the healing and gentleness of remedies to be wonderful --- once this factor has been taken into consideration --- just as their aggravations were nearly intolerable with a more normal, or usual, prescription. also as a sensitive, it has seemed to me that homeopaths view "smallest dose" within the framework of "normal" people ... but if one is a sensitive, "small" is much much smaller than one normally encounters. i can't overemphasize the difference it makes to have finally gotten to a dose that is an appropriate size for me.

edit to add: anyway, i am sure this suggestion covers only a small part of the case, but hope it contributes something of use to you.

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"The need to perform adjustments for covariates...weakens the findings." BMJ Clinical Evidence: Mental Health, (No. 11), p. 95.... It's that simple, guys: bad numbers make bad science.

This is a badly MIXED case - too many remedies. The only one not ccovered that seems applicable is Nat Sul . But my feeling is to give Nat Mur high 10m and wait for things to settle