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Old 11th August 2004, 09:15 AM
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Hello all,

Homeopathy can be said as: just work physiologically/functionally but not physically/structurally. It means that it can just improve working but can't provide any substance which is really deficient in body (subject to use of very low potenties, MT etc.). It can be differanciated with allopathy & other material healing systems in sense that, its remedies are dyanamic & energy based whereas their medicines are crude & material based. It is just related to remedies & medicines respectively, but not to foods, nutrients, supplements, replacements, surgery/other support systems...etc., I mean everything other than medicines as these are supportive but not the medicines or remedies & so can't be a property of any one system.

Under this consideration/thought, whether it is justified/practical to use all things in homeopathy (i.e.foods, nutrients, supplements, vitamins & minerals, replacements hormones & enzymes etc. in Crude form, surgery & other support systems....,) than medicines/remedies?

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Hahnemann address this in the Organon.
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Hahnemann address this in the Organon.
Means: these are allowed/acceptable. Do the regular homeopathic courses provides knowledge for these things & whether a homeopath is entitled to prescribe the same? I mean: are these things form legal part of homeopathy?
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They aren't homeopathic. They are outside the realm of homeopathy. They can be considered in the area of maintaining causes, i.e., poor nutrition, or possibly structural problems. As for training of homeopaths in these modalities, it depends on the type training they have.
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As I mentioned to be homeopathic or allopathic, those can be just remedies & medicines. These are neither remedies nor medicines, so there should not be any objection in using those logically & practically to complete homeopathic treatments. Regular homeopathic full time 5 1/2 years courses, as B.H.M.S, provide for study of other allopathic subjects like anatomy, physiology etc. with similar course, but not these subjects. I think, homeopaths are not ,therefore, entitled to prescribe these legally. But it may be most important to add.
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If the homeopath gets his training at a Naturopathic Medical College, then he would know how to prescribe the adjunct therapies. It's important that all homeopaths be able to recognize maintaining causes and medical emergencies. All homeopaths (and anyone else in the health field) should have a list of professionals in other modalities he can refer patients to when needed.
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It is ok, but why a homeopath or homeopathy should not be be able to do it directly. A diabetic patient with no insulin production who can easily be treated by replacement hormone insulin, What do you say, if homeopath should send him to a diabetologist or he should be able prescribe directly as a regular allopathic physician can do. I feel that, in the things other than the medicines, a homeopath/homeopathy should be just at par to any allopathic doctor/allopathy.

Btw, is it good or bad that a person study & learn two systems of healings say: homeopathy+Ayurveda/Naturopathy.. Will two system(say, homeopathy+ayurveda) confuse him or will provide better understandings.
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There are homeopaths with medical degrees who can and do prescribe other modalities. But it's too easy to be a 'Jack of all trades and master of none'. As a practioner, I love homeopathy and much prefer just doing homeopathy and referring people for other modalities. As a patient, I would prefer going to a nutritionist for nutritional counseling and a chiropractor or massage therapist for hands on work than going to one person who does it all. They would have to be a very talented genius to become a master of several modalities at the same time. Not that it can't be done, but it's hard enough just to be a true master of one modality.

It's certainly an advantage to understand several modalities, but as I've said above, it's difficult to practice multiple modalities really well.
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'Jack of all trades and master of none'. Yes, It is true unless one is very capable beyond limits. I therefore, prefered & indicated for the least.

Anyhow, I was thinking it for the future of students doing regular courses in homeopathy(my daughter just taken admission). Just thinking on bit negative possibility of existence of homeopathy for the treatment of other patients legally in consideration of world wide movements to discredit it on its 'non-materiastic higher potencies, slow effects & so precious time waste in trying for correct remedy, deeper effects(all suppressions inncluding resistances/immunities etc.), proving effects, non-supplementations or replacements, non-supportive & surgeries etc. Anything can be possible at any time.(pls don't take it otherwise).

Students do long/full 5 1/2++ courses in anticipation of bright future. But if some adversity is possible, you can assess the stiuation. I therefore is of the view that:-

1. All knowledges other then medicines should be a part of homeopathic regular courses at part to a MBBS alopathic doctor & homeopathy should include those in practice.

2. In consideration of possible adversities, student should be allowed to do say appx. 3 year common course(anatomy,physiology etc.) & 2 year specific system's course. I mean that by doing 2 more year(not 5 year) any student should be entitled to practice two systems say: homeopathy & ayurveda(non-materiastic & materialistic). Other appropriate & justified combinations can also be made which can be followed by the students suitably.

Am I right?
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If I had had to spend several years learning some other modality, I would probably have not wanted to train! I only wanted to learn homeopathy and minimum of other things to pactice safely and know my limits. But to each his own. There are certainly other courses available to those who want them.
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