otherhealth.com  

Go Back   otherhealth.com > Homeopathy > Homeopathy Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 2nd June 2004, 06:25 AM
jkw jkw is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Posts: 12
jkw
Unhappy Carcinosin 10M causes severe aggravation

I recently took one dose of carcinosin 10M. I had taken it 6 months previously, at 1M and 10M a month apart, and benefited. I was given it following an EAV consultation which showed my triple warmer meridian was low and required a miasm.
I have CFS with multiple sensitivities and the first two doses made me more tolerant of foods/chemicals/supplements.
This time, it has caused a severe flare-up of all of my symptoms in the 8 days since I took it. I feel incredibly desperate - this doesn't feel like a healing crisis. My homeopath has just shrugged her shoulders.
Can anyone offer any advice?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 2nd June 2004, 09:13 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 75
Naturalhealth is on a distinguished road
Default

Are you actually seeing a homeopath and was your full case taken by this homeopath?

It just seems to me to be a very spurious kind of reason to prescribe Carcinosin in such a high potency - something to do with your triple warmer. This prescription is definitely not homeopathic at all. I have nothing against TCM mind you and find it very helpful in cases to link things together, it helps make more sense out of things sometimes, but I do not really feel that it is a way to prescribe.

A 10M can last a very long time and it seemed that perhaps your last dose of 10M was still working and perhaps it was inadvisable to take another dose.

Anyway, 10M is a high potency, but the aggravation should pass in its own time in a few days without you having to do anything.

I would suggest that if all your homeopath could do was to shrug, then you need to get a new homeopath who can help you properly and will take a full case, rather than prescribing remedies for you following a TCM diagnosis. Yes, it is helpful, no it is not homeopathy.

You definitely need to find a more professional practitioner who will not shrug at the first problems that are encountered. This is called case management and all homeopaths should know about this. It is a major part of homeopathic practice.

Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 2nd June 2004, 11:36 PM
Ricky's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Northern England
Posts: 2,079
Ricky is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

A lower dose e.g. 12 C (the lowest you get in Carcinosin) may bring your aggravation under control. Do get back to your homeopath and tell her you are not satisfied.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 8th June 2004, 11:59 AM
jkw jkw is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Posts: 12
jkw
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky
A lower dose e.g. 12 C (the lowest you get in Carcinosin) may bring your aggravation under control. Do get back to your homeopath and tell her you are not satisfied.
Thanks for the help I've received. The situation is particularly awkward because the practitioner is a friend.
However, what frequency of dose at the 12c potency would be generally recommended to overcome an aggravation?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 8th June 2004, 01:00 PM
Divina's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: southern ontario, canada
Posts: 1,310
Divina is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I'd say, just take the 12c once. And let things be.

As for being treated by a friend...you need to understand the limitations of practice in this way. If you're not paying for the treatment, you'll likely not get much out of it. That's just an unfortunate truth. Either tell your friend to take money for services, and behave like you're just another one of his patients, or find a good homeopath whose services you feel you can make demands apon.
__________________
...and deliverance has many faces<br />but grace<br />is an aquaintance of mine
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 9th June 2004, 12:26 AM
Ricky's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Northern England
Posts: 2,079
Ricky is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Yes - just the 1 dose
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 9th June 2004, 05:01 PM
jkw jkw is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Posts: 12
jkw
Default

Thanks again for everybody's advice.
The practitioner became a friend following the start of my treatment so I paid for the consultations.
It's been two and a half weeks since I took the 10M remedy and my symptoms have not really improved. Could this still be the aggravation?
I think the problem may be that it's made me more sensitive, so I'm reacting to things that I broadly tolerated before, and it becomes a catch 22.
I have bought the carcinosin 6c and 12c (the lowest potencies available). Should I go with the 6c as the lowest?
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 9th June 2004, 11:18 PM
Ricky's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Northern England
Posts: 2,079
Ricky is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

We can't buy 6C in Carc in UK!! You could take 1 dose of either BUT I really think you should consult the person who prescribed you the 10M!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 10th June 2004, 10:47 AM
jkw jkw is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Posts: 12
jkw
Default

Hello Ricky
Ainsworth's have supplied me with the carcinosin 6c - I've got the bottle in front of me now!
I have spoken with the homeopath but she says the 10M is raising important issues with my health that needed highlighting. However, she has not suggested another classical remedy. She also treats patients with Heel remedies and wants me to continue with them.
Throughout my illness, I have had VERY mixed results with homeopathy. I saw a highly respected homeopath about 8 years ago who put me on a LM remedy which weakened me steadily for about 6 weeks. She said this was the appropriate response but other homeopaths whose opinion I fielded all disagreed. Needless to say, I started to feel better again as soon as I came off the remedy but it has made me wary.
Perhaps I've just been unlucky, but I have encountered this problem on several occasions with homeopathic treatment - longterm aggravation is termed as a healing crisis. I have had healing crises from rememdies and they have been short-lived and I have always felt better afterwards.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 10th June 2004, 08:58 PM
Ricky's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Northern England
Posts: 2,079
Ricky is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

That explains it as I get all my remedies from Helios!! I am so glad you consulted with your homeopath before doing anything as he is the person who knows about your case. I have to say though I am not too impressed to hear about the Heel remedies expecially if they are the combination ones!!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
the confusion surrounding aggravation passkey Homeopathy Discussion 3 8th April 2004 03:41 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:53 AM.



The information contained on OtherHealth.com arises by way of discussion between contributors and should not be treated as a substitute for the advice provided by your own personal physician or other health care professional. None of the contributions on this site are an endorsement by the site owners of any particular product, or a recommendation as to how to treat any particular disease or health-related condition. If you suspect you have a disease or health-related condition of any kind, you should contact your own health care professional immediately. Please read the BB Rules for further details.
Please consult personally with your own health care professional before starting any diet, exercise, supplementation or medication program.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright © 2008 otherhealth.com