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Old 23rd May 2004, 03:15 AM
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Thre is hardly an individual who lives in this world without being exposed to stresses and strains of modern civilizatin. Sometime a patient with remote symptoms e.g headache, indigestion and eye strain etc consult us presuming that his/her symptom are related to body pathological symptoms. I know, it cannot be over emphasise that each symptom is psychological symptom unless you see a clear mal function of organic lesion.

In my experience, each woman who consult you with pelvic disorder should be check first about psychosomatic disease. What is your opinion?

What is the clear differecene to findout between a psych and patho case.
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When A Patient Approach Menopausal Age, She Get Fear Regarding Her Detoriorating Physical Health, Lessening Sexual Activity, Infertility And Cancer. I Have Seen, These Pts Came With Insomnia, Headache And Vaginal Disorders. I Treat Them Without Medication Unless I See It Is Badly Needed For Them To Put Them On Homeo. I Think These Pts Need Our Psych Help. What Do Think
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to me, all psychological activity is necessarily physical, or physiological, in its basis. it cannot be otherwise, as the seat of psychological activity is, of course, the body and its organs (and i would consider the body's energy system a part of this physiological basis). the only time it is, imho, reasonably clear that psychological treatment alone is indicated, is when there is a reaction to an acute event, especially if there are no clear predisposing characteristics, by history or by observation. and even then, if the reactive disorder does not clear up pretty quickly, i'd soon begin to consider more deeply entrenched pathology, requiring deeper intervention: homeopathic treatment is certainly a prime option, or deeper therapeutic work.
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hi,

I was reading somewhere, the opinion of a psychiatrist that the origin of 100 % diseases are psychosomatic in nature. Although you observed pathological changes but again, the first cause would be psychosomatic.
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i would suggest that all diseases, viewed from this angle, are of tripartite design: psychological, physiological, and environmental/transactional. indeed, simple reflection reveals that all three components must be present in all human "behavior," whether normal or pathological.

indeed, the three dimensions are really only one, if we want to push the point: all pyschology is clearly physiological - there is no such thing as an incorporeal mental state! and all physiology is psychological as well - there is nothing that does not reflect the balanced or imbalanced state of the organism in terms of internal functioning or adaptive fit. and although organisms are obviously separated from the surround, they are from the surround, and cannot live without it, circularly recreating themselves in transaction with the envrions. and ... without the organism, the environment itself would not be the same, the ecosystem would necessarily strike a new balance, organism/environment being elements of a single system, an "organic" whole.

that's taking things to extreme, but only because we are not used to conceptualizing across such a sweep. indeed, this pov reflects the fact that analysis is able to identify parts of objects - anatomy - but a holistic understanding of the interdepent structure and function of the whole object presents an insurmountable challenge to those who would operate on the part as though it were separable in any absolute sense from the whole. such doomed efforts at analysis are at the heart of the allopathic error, and at the center of its strength (the repair of traumatic injury). otoh, the totality, defined through detailed observation (not analysis) of the "case," reflects the holistic strength of homeopathy: the innumerable "parts" observed in the case taking are not analytical, but photographic, the whole taken together forming a kind of animation, seen in motion through the action of the potency.
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For what it's worth, all medical schools are now teaching that disease is all psychosomatic.

This doesn't mean that diseases, suffering, and symptoms do not exist: it means that an acknowledgement is being made that what we think, how we act in the world, how things affect us on a mental and emotional level will all have some bearing on us on the physical level, too.

The grave misunderstanding comes from the idea the "psychosomatic" means "It's all in your head", or "You're imagining it". Patient's are easily dismissed with this conclusion, when in fact the reality is that the suffering is detectable, measurable, and real.
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good points. in fact, a look at the word itself, "psychosomatic," reflects that there are two influences at work, not, as people usually seem to feel, that it is 'all in your head.' for that, they'd be looking at hypochondriasis.
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