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Old 30th November 2003, 02:10 PM
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Hi Kkrista,

I was just wondering how things were progressing on your dog's case...

I understand you're probably busy paying attention...but would still like to know how things are going...
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Old 30th November 2003, 02:46 PM
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ChaCha, I think Krista doesn't often post over weekends, trying to catch up with the shelter stuff. I don't know how she does it all. Think she has a stash of energizer bunny batteries?
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I'm beginning to think the energy bunny probably plugs in to Krista power on occasion to recharge.
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Hey Guys, that darn Energizer Bunny was trying to tap into my supply again! Seriously, sorry I had a computer virus that took all weekend to get rid of! Thanks for all your replies, I have very interesting developments to report!

Fatman thanks for your concern, all the dog's vitals were normal, but in the end I was concerned enough to take him in to be seen. He perked up a lot once outside and in a new environment (vet clinic). Here's where it gets really good... I took him to another vet (the original vet's suggestion) and she could find no trace of the polyp! She thought perhaps we had been mistaken (mistook inflamation for the polyp -which might be possible) so I followed up with the original vet and he maintains that what he showed me was a polyp and the vet tech confirms that is also what she saw. Quite frankly, I was just so thrilled to know it is not there. Is it likely that cc 200 would get rid of a polyp so quickly?

She took an earswab but did not find the type of bacteria she was expecting, so we decided to go a head and get a culture and sensitivity analysis (should get results sometime this week). Not sure if the results will be helpful, but considering how long the problem has been going on I thought it prudent, incase something else might be causing the infections.

At any rate, by Saturday, the dog was his goofy self again -perhaps the indigestion was something else entirely?

At 1st it did occur to me that perhaps the dog might be aggrevating, however, for the effects to come on so late after dosing would be unusual no?

To summerize, I guess we are back to treating infection and I'm leaning towards waiting and watching what else the cc might be able to do for the problem now that he appears OK again.
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Hi Kkrista,

I don't think "aggravating" so long after a dose is unusual. I used to know a woman who practiced homeopathy a long, long, time. She loved to tell a story about how she thought her son would have no reaction to a remedy...until, weeks later, in a public place like the supermarket, her child would suddenly have a vomitous explosion! And then would be absolutely fine afterward, showing all the signs of improved health. So, sometimes, the expected reaction is late to come...and the aggravation may be fleeting and mis-timed as well...but there you are.

I still think the connection between a vaccine--even years earlier--and a polyp are too coincidental to ignore. Perhaps this last treatment will have taken care of some very old, lingering damage. I hope so!
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I still think the connection between a vaccine--even years earlier--and a polyp are too coincidental to ignore. Perhaps this last treatment will have taken care of some very old, lingering damage. I hope so!
So if any animal that has been vaccinated ever gets ill it is always the vaccination to blame? Don't you think that bacteria and viruses might have something to do with it?
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Starburn, trust me vaccinosis is a credible factor in chronic disease in our pets today, as is over medication (includes trial drugs not well studied), pesticides (dewoming, heartworm treatments), and substandard diets.

Yes bacteria and viruses, fungi etc can also cause problems, but don't forget a substandard chronic condition is going to lesson the ability of the body to naturally fight infection.

My question about vaccination is rather "so what?", this dog is not a situation of "never been well since vaccination". I'm not saying the one vaccine he received didn't cause his problems, but there are other factors to consider like genetics, early development, foreign plasma transfussion etc that might also play a role; but in the end is not the present symptoms that are of importance here? I can't change the fact that he received that vaccine, 8 years later (the bulk of the years enjoyed in good health, no vaccines, drugs and good food), here are his symptoms. I think the connection is too vague at this point to favour one remedy for its great powers in vaccinosis over one that might suit just as well.

Am I missing the point?
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sorry kkrista

I'm afraid that ChaChaheels and I have a standing disagreement on vacination.

You claim that a lot of chronic disease is caused by vacintion. Do you have any evidence for this?

I agree that substandard diets are going to cause problems.

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"I still think the connection between a vaccine--even years earlier--and a polyp are too coincidental to ignore"

I only read this board to find such funny things being said. Is not like 'being vaccinated' and 'having ear disease' are so rare/odd that happening in same patient is too much to be coincidence.

Your prejudices against vaccination are making such hilarity/humor common. Did no disease happen before vaccines? If diseases happened before vaccines then how do you claim all problem like ear polyp is due to 'vaccinosis'. This is probably least competent debate I yet meet on such subjects.

Dinosaur bones may have cancer in them. Who vaccinated dinosaurs?
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I think the point is being missed a little bit--after all, the dog has a recurrent polyp--any cyst, pox, polyp, wart, tubercule or any internal "walled off" formation made by the body is what we normally see as a sign and symptom of vaccinosis. That means you have to focus your differential diagnosis, in terms of remedies, to those which point out the same type of tendency, and be careful to seek out the characteristic (to the patient) symptoms from among the typical symptoms of the disease. This is really what is meant by keeping the miasms in mind...you want to be certain to look at the remedies which all produce the same type of pathology as a group--and recognize the miasm or disease influence in those remedies so as to avoid prescribing on those symptoms (because they are characteristic of that disease, and therefore not too revealing of the patient, in themselves).

A polyp which recurs is significant in that it tells you you are seeing a sycotic disease...the polyp itself isn't that important. What is significant in the case is that, way back when, the dog had a vaccination which greatly compromised its health. There was a direct cause and effect relationship, and therefore a clear aetiology that is characteristic to the animal: ailments from vaccination.

Therefore, out of the handful of remedies you can select from which all have the rubrics of polyp, ear (right or left); the stomach digestion, the thirst, the lethargy, etc. etc. etc...you differentiate between the remedies until you can find the ones which also include "vaccination, ailments from". And you'll have your remedy.

Starburn and Fatman are trolls who don't want to know anything about vaccines or homeopathy, so they're just here to cast derision. They'll soon tell you your dog was never sick and you've fooled yourself and presumably your animal since you'll never win a Noble (sic) prize and and you're too chicken to outwit James Randi.
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