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Old 25th November 2003, 08:08 AM
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Hello all,

Homeopathy remedies are prescribed to the Law of Similars which states" That which makes sick shall heal" or "Like treating Like". Thus was born Homeopathy- Similar Suffering, and the law of cure- Similia Similibus Curentur, that is, ‘let likes be cured by likes’. In simple terms, it means, " any substance that can produce a set of signs and symptoms in a healthy person can be used to cure a similar set of signs and symptoms in a diseased person". It was also discussed that higher potencies say 30C were recomended for proving purpose in healthy person which will produce proving symptoms.

Now, one question arises here that:

If a wrongly prescribed potentised remedy can cause a disease relating to the proving's symptoms in a person who is not sick from those symptoms?
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If a wrongly prescribed potentised remedy can cause a disease relating to the proving's symptoms in a person who is not sick from those symptoms?
Yes, that's precisely what a proving is. However, in the case of potentized remedies, as long as the remedy is not too strong for the particular person's vital force and as long as it is not repeated, the symptoms will go away once the remedy has ceased acting. If the remedy is repeated or if it is too high, the symptoms can graft on to the person and then the remedy disease also has to be cured. However, these symptoms are often harder to cure than the original disease.

A case in point is that of Hering, who was never able to wear a tight collar after proving Lacheses.
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Yes, that's precisely what a proving is.
Hello Shirley,

If this is true then this aspect can be taken as a possible adverse effect of homeopathic remedies & should be seriously considered. The prescribing of wrong remedy is very much possible considering so many remedies & principals. Is it true in case of some toxic type remedies or for all remedies. Some remedies which are non toxic & similar to body biochemical like tissue remedies will also produce this type effect or not?

Btw, you are not visiting frequently, I hope everything is fine.


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Even though tissue salts are in low potencies and sometimes are used on a supplemental basis for a while they need to be used with the same care as any other homeopathic remedy. They can be over used too and this can lead to unnecessary complications. If they are not working in a while then another solution needs to be found. They need to be watched so that they aren't giving proving symptoms like all remedies need to be moderated this way. The case may need to be retaken and analyzed. Perhaps a diet change is required as each person is individual and they may have their own unique diet requirements. I find sometimes a special diet giving certain nutrients is required and tissue salts can be used to encourage absorption of these nutrients or elements and a homeopathic remedy chosen to be the simillium is required.
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They can be over used too and this can lead to unnecessary complications. If they are not working in a while then another solution needs to be found. They need to be watched so that they aren't giving proving symptoms like all remedies need to be moderated this way. The case may need to be retaken and analyzed.
Hello Carole Franske,

Thanks for information. Can you give any referance/case history which lead to the complications on continious & long use of several tissue salts.
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Dear Kayvee, everything is very fine with me. Ever since I returned from vacation last August, I have been quite busy. Everyone at our clinic has been extremely busy. So I don't have a lot of time to visit the BB. Often, work slows down between Thanksgiving and New Years, but I've already got more patients booked through the holidays than I had last year.

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If this is true then this aspect can be taken as a possible adverse effect of homeopathic remedies & should be seriously considered. The prescribing of wrong remedy is very much possible considering so many remedies & principals. Is it true in case of some toxic type remedies or for all remedies. Some remedies which are non toxic & similar to body biochemical like tissue remedies will also produce this type effect or not?
Yes, we want to avoid proving symptoms. We do not repeat the remedy without evaluating the result of the previous dose. This will safeguard against developing proving symptoms. This is true of all remedies.

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Hi kV,

If somebody has got impression, I were been rash in few of my posts, then it was due to confused homeopathic philosophy, which I always try to gather and understand. Few members have created so much confusion with homeopathic principles and philosophy that it has become very difficult to understand homeopathy with scientific point of view. This is the only reason, I find that, members have left this forum or they have changed their names and started discussing with some other name.
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In the meantime, most of the regular contributers on this site have moved elsewhere, where the homoeopathic community continues to replenish, advise, discuss and inform one another in the way it always has. The rest wait patiently in the background, ready to be roused from the comatose state induced by “scientific threads”… Chris Gillan Australia
Kv, dr.mas, MRC and fittness you are responsible. You asked such questions at bb which created confusion among students like us. we started following good contributing members like shirley, chris, snoopy , Hans Weit and other. We asked them relevent and irrelevent question. They thought we are TROLLS. we said o.k we are but do satisfy us. [img]redface.gif[/img]

Today, we are still standing at a point where we were at the time of registeration.

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Old 26th November 2003, 01:32 AM
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Today, again Kv you are trying to confuse us by asking that question (ref. your first post). If at this stage, somebody says "homeopathy is a fraud, it has no rules. every body has its own philosophy. everybody is running under his her own experience" then I will not mind.
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I ask this question to many homeopathic doctors.

Will you add both symptoms or second symptom of a patient in computer software.

Urination - Frequent
Urination - Day and Night

Fifty % said we will add both rubrics (there is not much difference) and 50 said no only second rubric, if you will add both the result would be different when you will add few more rubric?

Now tell me what is homeopathy, if we can not stand on one simple addition of rubric then how can we repertorize correctly. On this issue if people have left the forum then they should. :razz: Becuase they want to remain in their own dream fantacies of homeopathy and they call us non-sense students. For which we agreed at very first stage of our appearance at BB.
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Hello SR,

Thanks for the information. Off the topic, It looks that some big problem is hidden in diabetic meditations for induced/injected excess insulin exposure which may be the real cause for all its mentioned complications.

Prof.Raza H.,

Discussing about the pinholes, confusions & some delicate points in any system do not mean the wrong intention but means to repair, clear & understand the same. Urination frequently & Urination day & night are two differant symptoms & can't be considered as similar. Frequent urination during the night is related to many diseases which may not be in the case of frequent urination during the day. Pls contribute something about the topic.
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