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Old 18th November 2003, 04:43 PM
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I was wondering if anyone would be willing to help concerning my morning sickness?

I am about 20 weeks along. I had morning sickness with both of my other pregnancy's, seems to be increasing in severity with each one. Last time lasted for 6 months (before taking remedy).

Largest complaint is SEVERE increase in sensitivity in ALL smells. I have had to rid the house of all shampoos/soaps etc too to avoid the smell of those. I can even smell the laundry detergent that other people use on their clothes and it makes me sick. Obviously food is included in this. I have all day nausea increases in severity as day progresses. Nausea is increased by smells. Was vomiting more in earlier pregnancy, not so much now. Now I have more gagging, but no actuall vomiting (usually occurs before eating). Do not vomit after eating now. Increased saliva (and thickened). I am turned off by most foods, but I do want steak. It is one of the few things that I consistently want and tastes good to me. Also potatos. Also want pickles, green olives, and sour/tart fruits like grapefruit, lemons, pineapple and blueberries. Other than those fruits, all other fruits are definitley aversions. I can toerate no sweets (including the fruit). No chicken. I can eat canned corn, peas, and green beans. Cannont (and don't) cook any meat (crock pot ok) but I can eat the beef, and I do not want to cook anything at all but have to.Cannot stand to watch commercial on TV with food in them, grocery shopping is also hard. I feel the best while I am actually eating but feel worse before and after. Have had constipation pretty consistently although not this week. Want attention and sympathy. emotionally I feel very "down" mainly from being so sick for so long, it just gets to you after a while. Dry mouth and thirst through the night. I do drink quite a bit of water through the day although more from habit than thirst. Prefer cold water to drink now (as opposed to room temperature). Feel sicker on becoming heated (usually in the shower, or when the weather was hot). Having some stretching ligament pain in lower abdomen, also some low back pain, but not too bad. Have had insomnia most of the time, although it seems to be getting a little better.

That is mostly what I can think of, anything you can offer would be greatly appreceated.
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Old 18th November 2003, 11:21 PM
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Homeopathic Sepia covers most of your symptoms. Do try Sepia 30 and see how you get on.
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Thank you so much I will try it.
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What a terrible hit and miss suggestion for a bit of self- aggrandizement---

<< by smells: Sepia is fourth grade and shares this with remedies like:
Acon, Aurum, Bell, cham, Coff, colch, con, ign, Lyc, Nat-c, Nux-v, Phos-ac, Plat, Spig,

Lets be serious—there can be many reasons for this ,,morning sickness’’—and without excluding a few more serious ones and without even having seen the patient in person, it is ludicrous to advice taking any remedy.

So—my suggestion is:
PLAY SAVE—consult a professional homeopath.
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I agree a case is better fully taken by an experienced classical and local homoeopath. The next best thing would be a classical homoeopath anywhere else.
I always recommend to pay attention to the totality of symptoms and to adhere to Hahnemann's suggestions of symptom hierachy. It is well possible that the pregnancy is triggering and in that respect causative. This is certainly one lead in this case. You should never prescribe upon physical symptoms alone and if the patient's mental/emotional symptoms do not fit the remedy picture how could one possibly ignore this. Now if Sepia is the closest quality in this case and 30C the closest quantity than it is the best fit and should be administered. If it is a different remedy, e.g. Phosphorus, Pulsatilla, etc., than another remedy should be considered. If it is another intensity another potency should be considered.
Taking Sepia once only in this way will most likely not spoil the case, unless there are some informations we do not know, e.g. previously taken remedies still acting in the economy and inimical to Sepia or a high susceptibility to this substance. In these circumstances damage to the v.f. of this person may be induced and may be passed on to the unborn child. A standard situation like this one may be well treated with a standard suggestion in hundreds of cases until you come accross the one utterly susceptible and vulnerable case and damage may be introduced and stay there possibly for generations.
It is always best to take the whole case and minimize the risk of endangering the v.f. The responsibility we have as conscious prescribers is enormous and I think only few of us really realize what a wonderful tool to eradicate disease per se we have at our hands and how this amazing tool can turn into a dangerous and harmful weapon in the wrong hands.

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C.M Boger writes in the introduction to the Synoptic Key after 40! Years of extensive practise:

THE POSSIBILITIES THAT INHERE IN THE CONDUCT OF THE SIMILIMUM WITH THE DISORDERED VITAL FORCE CAN NOT BE FORE-KNOWN. IT THEREFORE BEHOVES EVERY PRESCRIBER TO USE UTMOST CARE IN SELECTING THE CURATIVE REMEDY.

Can we foretell the effect of a partially correctly selected remedy?

I think, NO,

As it happened lately, that despite the utmost care and consideration a patient after receiving one single dose of Sepia Q2 has fallen into deep depression, and it took me a lot of effort to alleviate the situation—a thing I might report in detail some other time.

As much as good can be done with a single dose of a remedy in a 30C potency, as much harm can be caused in adverse circumstances.
I take it as the opinion of inexperienced, or may I say careless aspirant, who pushes aside all necessary doubt, and comforts himself with the words:

IT WOULD DO NO HARM !!
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Come off it Hans. I'm the one who usually plays safe and trying a Sepia 30 in these circumstances is not going to do any harm and could well be the correct Rx. Yes I am aware of taking a full case but with pregnancy this remedy for these symptoms is a pretty good fit. If I had the patient in front of me and was certain I would go for the 200C in pregnancy. Re reading I notice that Bellafinn states that she took a remedy last pregnancy. Does that mean she has a local homeopath? If so she should definitely see her/him.

I had a new patient in last week who was pregnant. I took just the symptoms and what I was seeing in front of me now rather than look for a constitutional as things change so much during preganancy. I gave her the remedy while she was sat there. 5 mins later she said <<Everything is sharper, clearer, brighter and my vision has gone up. She then burst out crying with relief.>> She hadn't even mentioned her vision. I spoke to her today and she is so much better.

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Kent's Repertory on smell sensitivities


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Nausea + Vomiting entire day alum[2], ars[2], Carb-v[4], dig[2], graph[3], hep[2], lyc[3], merc[2], petr[3], phos[2], sep[2], SIL[5]
SMELL, acute : Acon., agar., alum., anac., ant-c., arn., ars., asar., Aur., bar-c., Bell., bry., calc., canth., caps., carb-ac., carb-s., cham., Chin., cina., cocc., Coff., colch., con., cupr., cycl., Graph., ham., hep., hyos., hyper., Ign., kali-ar., kali-c., kali-p., kali-s., kalm., lach., lact-ac., Lyc., lyss., mag-c., mez., nat-a., nat-c., nat-p., nux-m., Nux-v., Op., petr., ph-ac., Phos., plat., plb., puls., sabad., sel., Sep., sil., stann., sulph., tab., thuj., valer., viol-o., zinc.

...[bla bla bla]

----- pregnancy, during : Stann.

[bla bla bla]

----- [to] strong odors : Acon., agar., anac., asar., Aur., bar-c., Bell., bry., calc., canth., carb-s., cham., chin., cocc., Coff., Colch., con., cupr., Graph., hep., Ign., kali-c., Lyc., lyss., mag-c., nat-c., nat-m., Nux-v., petr., Phos., plb., puls., sabin., sel., sep., spig., sulph., valer.

[bla bla bla]


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She says:

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"I have all[-]day nausea [that] increases in severity as [the] day progresses."
This seems important as peculiar, because I cannot think of any reason for the nausea increasing during waking periods.

Others please react to this if you agree that it seems an uncommon symptoms but most especially if you disagree and hold it is an understandable common symptom so that we do not misunderstand the case.

Kent's Repertory on nausea during pregnancy
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STOMACH, Nausea during pregnancy (509K) pregnancy, during : Acon., ail., alet., anac., ant-c., ant-t., ars., Asar., bry., carb-ac., carb-an., cast., cimic., cod., colch., con., cupr-ar., ferr-ar., ferr-p., ferr., hell., ip., iris., jatr., kali-ar., kali-bi., kali-c., kali-p., Kreos., lac-c., lac-d., lach., Lact-ac., laur., lil-t., lob., lyc., mag-c., mag-m., merc-i-f., nat-m., nux-m., Nux-v., ox-ac., petr., phos., plat., plb., podo., psor., puls., Sep., sil., staph., sul-ac., sulph., sym-r., Tab., tarent., verat.
I do not find the subrubric "increasing during the day" or anything similar. If anyone knows of such a rubric, they should post it here.

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Ma'am,

I was not able to find time to even read the whole of your posting, and I will not be able to further work on your case due to other demands; however, I encourage you to 1) find a competent homeopathic prescriber, and 2) go to the repertory (i.e., click the two links) in order to add any possible precision to your complaints so that those here may help you if possible.

Proper homeopathic prescribing during pregnancy is the only possible way to prevent inherited illness and predispositions to it that have plagued humanity for millennia, but only the simillimum ("thing most similar") will do this; i.e., merely close drugs (called simile/"sim-a-lee" drugs) will not, as Boger correctly says above.

Hans mindfully quoted C.M. Boger saying as much above about both facts, so I reiterate ("say in another way") that it cannot be understated how important it is to do homeotherapeutics correctly during pregnancy.

We can and eventually will remove the largest amount of unnecessary human suffering from humanity in this way over the next few hundred years as people like you come to us at this time.

God Bless!

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Hi Albert,

What if that tendency to "worsen throughout the day" is a general symptom, which may also play itself out with other ailments or such things as strength and weakness?
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Hi Albert:
BB1 [1905] page:365
Nausea+ Vomiting &lt;&lt; entire day.
rubric is from SRA/ SRN and contains the following entries:

alum[2], ars[2], Carb-v[4], dig[2], graph[3], hep[2], lyc[3], merc[2], petr[3], phos[2], sep[2], SIL[5]
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