For Cina, you could up the potency to 30C and give that to her once a month or so or as indicated by any return of symptoms, itching, etc.

Nat Phos may not be necessary then, especially if the "acid-alkali imbalance" symptoms have have resolved.

Hope this helps.
All the best.

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on wednesday I discovered my 3 yr-old daughter had pinworms after she had been complaining about an itchy bottom and sore vagina and I had a look in the night with a torch and saw a thread-like white worm.
Interestingly CINA is one of the remedies that came up as her constutional here recently ("Questionnaire" 14 September. David JK suggested it was the remedy that covered most of her complaints. So i was pleased to be able to try it confidently as it is the main indicated remedy for worms too. has she perhaps in fact had worms for a long time hence cina indicated?
i have been giving her cina 7ch 5granules x3per day for 4 days now. Her teeth-grinding seems to have stopped immediately. She seems to be sleeping better too. I haven't been able to see any worms, but how do i knpow if they have gone. I went to the regular doctor too initially who said it was very important to stop the cycle and that the medication (mebendazole) is very well tolerated and need only be taken once. I haven't given her this but I would if i can't get rid of it soon naturally.
I intend to stop cina tomorrow since i believe there has been a significant improvement. Is that right? and i have read that whatevewr treatment should be repated after 2 weeks with worms since that is their life cycle. in case any eggs now hatch later. Is it ok to give a remedy like this ?ie. in case
I am also following snoopy's advice to give her nat phos as she said that it sounded like (from her last health problem with mpouth ulcers) she had an alkali-acid imbalance. worms i suppose would firther any such imbalance so i started her on nat phos 6x 4granules x3 perday. does that sound right and how long should i continue that for?

thanks for any advice

thank you so much for your response on this dr leela.

I would probably not give any more doses of the remedy, and maybe it would be best to wait before going up in potency. Going up too quickly can cause an aggravation and make things a little confusing. If there have been no sign of the worms since taking the remedy, it is probably safe for the time being to leave things be - let her body eliminate the worms naturally and at its own pace.

It is definitely important not to take any other remedies OR any medication at this point. Let us know how she goes.

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THANKS FOR THIS DAVID. well i guess i will stop the nat phos. this evening she complained of an itchy bottom again which had disappeared during the time in which she was taking the cina 7ch so i gave her another dose and suppose i will carry on tomorrow and if better leave off the next day. does that sound right. tonight i cleaned her bottom with a little drop of tea tree oil in water so give her some relief. i didn't see anything but she did have a little white discharge in her vagina which i suppose is normal but it looked a bit sore so i also cleaned her around her clitoris with a flannel. Gently but it started to bleed a little. that doesn't seem right to me. any ideas or is it just because it is so delicate an area??
as for the allopathic wormicide, i just thought perhaps it is a good idea since it is only once and i don't want to compromise her health for any longer: she has only just started to be well for a sustained period...i have never given her any "unnatural" medication though and am reluctant to begin but i do feel her pediatrician finds me irresponsible since i haven't got and can't afford a natural and/or homeopathic doctor yet i never follow her advice. does anyone know anything about mebendazole?

Moving up the potency to a 30C would probably
- prevent a situation like what happened with the 7C, where there was vaginal soreness and a worm was found probably causing it.
-The worms are expelled more easily, the tendency to harbour them as eggs, larve or adult woms is overcome (improved immunity).
This also includes dealing with the whole cycle of maturation egg/larva/adult where respiratory symptoms develop as part of the development cycle of these worms (in the lung).
- mental symptoms asociated with this tendency is also dealt with. (Don't we know the cina child!)
- IT works much faster than a 7C, and just a single dose is required.
- It will deal with ALL worms - especially if the child is in a CINA state.

**Edited to add: The possiblity always exists that a higher potency may cause a slight aggravation in a sensitive person.

MEbendazole is very effective for destroying adult pinworms and threadworms (not so effective against other possible worms, esp round worms or tape worms or other parasites), but as you know it only works in that (adult worm) capacity.
Children do not have problems tolerating it at least in India. Though presently the more commonly used vermifuge is Albendazole.

[ 12. November 2003, 16:47: Message edited by: doctorleela ]

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Please don't use Tea tree oil in such a delicate place. I am one of those people who is very sensitive to it and a drop on my toe would make me itch for a week like chilblains!! See if you can find out where the bleeding is coming from.

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Relating to your query, some info is also available at
http://www.hpathy.com/forum/display_...PagePosition=1

This will give you some idea what leela is saying.

thak you mr. referee i read the whole discusssion which was very interesting. here's the part relating to pin worms:


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If a homeopath say I have got good result with arnica 200 then it is quite possible that another got no response in 200. Here I would like to present an example. I gave cina 30 to my grand daughter for pin worms, when she was three years old. I got no response although I was sure the symptoms are calling to Cina. The lab investigation also confirmed the prescence of pinworms.
One day I was sitting in a meeting, I asked my fellow homeopath that my grand daughter is sufferingwith such and such symptoms. What should I do. She said try Cina. I said to her. I have tried cina for one month. She said in which potency I said in 30. She said never ever use cina in 30 this has no result. Always use cina in 200 for pin worms. I came at my office. I took Cina 200 and went to home. I called my g/daughter. I put powder over her tongue. On the same day she slept calmly and not complained of itching in anus. AFter three day stool was sent to lab for r/e. No pinworms were found.
When I came to office next time. I opened the medicine cupboard and took out cina 30 bottle and thrown the bottle out side in dust bin. "


Well, this makes me feel keen to try Cina 200. Any other opinions? Can there be any harm in taking such a high potency especially for such a young person?
&lt;I'm unsure if she is any better at the moment. certainly she is not grinding her teeth as she has been for months. i haven't seen any worms- well in her stools there were a few little white thready things but not moving...are they worms or just food fibres?!

Zanna,
the important thing (above)is that the 30 did not help, then the 200 was tried. Its the individual response that takes priority always.

Contrary to his experience, the 30 has helped when I have prescribed it.
The 7C worked, but not effectively enough that's why the 30 is suggested.

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