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Old 3rd November 2003, 07:17 AM
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How have we established that homeopathic mode of treatment is safer than allopathic.

Has there been any follow up study conducted of the people having had homeopathic treatments to prove that they didn't develop any new diseases or problems as a result of being homeopathically treated OR are we relying on the hearsay from the homeopaths.
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Start reading Chronic Diseases, and see if you still need to ask this question.
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it's a daft question, even from a beginner.
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Perhaps you could ask the question "are guns safe?"
and then consider the replies to both questions.

Both could be considered safe in the hands of trained individuals and both could be considered lethal in the hands of those untrained.

Homeopathy, inappropriately used, as with any modality cannot be considered as "safe".

The medical fraternity may consider homeopathy as hocus pocus or whatever, but it remains that whatever heals can harm, whether allopathic or homeopathic.
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" are gun safe "...Homeopathy, inappropriately used, as with any modality cannot be considered as "safe".

The medical fraternity may consider homeopathy as hocus pocus or whatever, but it remains that whatever heals can harm, whether allopathic or homeopathic.
Hello ozzie,

I think needle/stick can be better than gun.

You mentioned 'can not be considered as 'safe' & whatever heals can harm. Can you please explain how homeopathy in not 'safe' & how it can 'harm'??
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No , it is not safe

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In what sense it is not safe?

Like e.g. aspirin? If you take one it's ok even if you really didn't need it, but when you gobble up the handful of pills it's not (I never tried it myself, just assuming).
Overdoing ANYTHING is not safe-you can even drink too much water. Is water safe?

Homeopathic remedies have been proved and provers were not affected adversely after the termination of the proving, were they? (Sure, some accidental "provers" died like those bitten by snakes or scorpios-which reminds me: happy birthday Albert!- but it wasn't quite homeopathic and FF doesn't ask about that).
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Is homeopathy safe?

Hmmm. Let's think about that one.

A lot of people come in to see a homeopath with some chronic, long seated ailment that has never responded to other treatments, and just keeps coming back and getting worse.

Let's say the said homeopath takes a case--and its a great case--the patient realises some realities about himself that are surprising. Maybe a connection is made about "when the whole thing started"...the first time the disease surfaced, what was going on in that person's life at the time, how certain events made him more susceptible, how life has just sort of been something "half" experienced as a result--with relationships not being very satisfying or downright toxic. Anyway, the case taking is well done, the case analysis is well done, and, voila, in this instance, the homeopath finds the simillimum for the patient.

The patient takes the remedy and hopes the chronic ailment will get better--and it does! But in the meantime, there's still the work situation which is claustrophobic--the job and career he chose in order to be practical and responsible, which provides no real interest or opportunity to grow...so the job is changed...the patient embarks on a new ambition to learn something he has always wished to do...which means he's really happy...but perhaps the payments for the second car aren't so affordable anymore...

Which creates a bit of tension with the mate...who then makes our patient realise that his relationship is not as equitable, or as loving, as he needs it to be for himself. He makes serious attempts to open communication with his partner. Maybe after a lot of difficulty, they begin to talk openly about their relationship. It becomes clear that, though they care a lot about each other, they simply are not suitable for each other any more...and so they agree to separate...

Which means each person has to recreate his living environment, under go something of an upheaval.

In the meantime, the chronic ailment has disappeared...but the upheaval of the patient's life is still ongoing--now that he is no longer with his partner, he must find new friends and re-negotiate his relationships with his old friends. There will be plenty of pain and plenty of happiness there--but the process isn't easy...

So, I guess, what I'm trying to say is that homeopathy is an incredibly effective tool for restoring health...and the process of restoring health can sometimes be full of unexpected, cataclysmic activity...very painful, but also very enriching.

Not everyone has the courage to do what's necessary once the pill starts working.

If you look at it that way, its pretty dangerous stuff. Anything that allows you to see that you can change your life to be the person you were meant to be is devastatingly powerful and dangerous.

But the payoff? Pretty good.

If you mean does the stuff make you dependent, like a drug addict--or create the need for more and more drugs as a side effect? No, it doesn't.

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That's a great explanation Divina - the dangers of the Similimum!
- Just a corollary to that, in a country like India, family need and duty overides individual need.
So unless its a very abusive situation, couples rarely separate ... so maintaining cause may persist ... so do the symptoms, as a result.
That's what we would term as "compensated" right?


Fitness, I assume what you're refering to is the use of homeopathic remedies inappropriately.
That can be dangerous - yes, in the long term - as the disease continues to progress and suppressions push the disease deeper into the system (just as in allopathy).
We seem to hide behind the fact that people think homeopathy "has no side effects" and it is 'safe'.

In the short term the situation can be reversed - even the wrong use of homeoapthic remedies - I shudder to think of what would happen if this was conitnued for a long time.
But then people have become so used to (or have accepted) the destructive effects of the dominant system of medicine, they hardly seem to notice this with homeopathy.

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This is a very good question, if homeopathy is safe. I also like your answers people. Homeoopathy does help amazingly in a lot of cases. In bad reaction there is always the antidote, which sometimes is fit to cure. In one case i had death, as result, which took place so quickly, that there was even no consideration to antidote.
The most important suggestion of you, Fitness first, is to keep a follow-ups. This opens the main path to see how the patient really reacted to the remedy. A pool of such follow-ups could serve all homeopaths.
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I appreciate the replies.

Let me make my question clearer.

Lets say I am being homeopathically treated for back pain, I am cured after one year of proper treatment. But 6 months down the road, I develop a kidney problem although I had no history of kidney problems.

Could this new problem be caused as a side effect of homeopathic treatment.

Although we would want to believe that homeopathic treatment when properly used is absolutely safe, my question is, has this belief been tested by doing some follow up on patients successfully treated by homeopathy.
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