Hello all,

Is it a suppression or a cure to correct the symptoms of aggravation caused by taking any unnatural food or substance?

We take several types of foods. Some are natural(like fruits) but other can be unnatural in real sense(like cofee, fast foods,milk?, drinks, processed foods etc). Aggravations/disorders by taking unnatural foods etc. may be a natural process to divert a person from those unnatural habits & correcting it by homeopathic remedies may lead to continuing these habits-creating chronic complications at a later date. So it can be like a SUPPRESSION.

Please give & discuss your views on this point.

Best Wishes.

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? If you take whole organic coffee beans and grind them, and don't add anything else, coffee is a very natural suibstance. If you add non-dairy creamer, you then have an unnatural substance. Margerine is unnatural, raw butter from grass fed cows is natural. Homogenized, pasteurized milk from corn feed cows is unatural. Our whole agrabusiness is in the business of unhealth. I highly recommend that people switch to a natural diet. The Weston A. Price Foundation has a lot of material on that. I.e., did you know that grains have a coating that interfers with mineral absorption? And did you know that soaking them overnight in whey or yogurt breaks down that coating? In additiona to natural foods, there are a lot of old, traditional cooking methods that enable us to assimulate the nutrients in our foods to a greater extent than modern cooking methods allow.

So to answer whether "Is it a suppression or a cure to correct the symptoms of aggravation caused by taking any unnatural food or substance?", one first has to be very clear on what one calls natural and unnatural. According to Hahnemann, you must stop the maintaining cause. Maintaining causes are outside the realm of homeopathy.

Within the realm of homeopathy is anything cuased by a disordered vital force. Lets assume that one is eating a natural diet and then gets a rash from eating organic strawberries. While the person may want to avoid strawberries, the avoidance will not cure the disorder in the vital force that is causing the rash. On the otherhand, not eating strawberries is not going to supress anything, either, because not eating something will not disorder the vital force. However, if the rash is not there, it's important that complete information about it not be neglected becasue it's very important to the case and at some point the patient will have to try eating strawberries again inorder to mke sure he was cured.

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Welcome Shirley,

I mentioned Food,which is defined as: something that nourishes, sustains, or supplies material consisting essentially of protein, carbohydrate, and fat used in the body of an organism to sustain growth, repair, and vital processes and to furnish energy; also : such food together with supplementary substances as minerals, vitamins, and condiments.Organic coffee beans may not be suitable for the purpose of food. By natural -I means natural to human being-which commonly, do not harm to humans based on an inherent sense of right and wrong. Since we are talking about natural food- it does not mean any thing grown or available naturally but means- only food suitable to humans with out any side, adverse & toxic effect, commonly. However, everything can be naural, you can also say unnatural food is an excess or toxic level of any food or substance which can harm to humans based on an inherent sense of right and wrong.

Suppose, anyone is taking lot of drinks. It is not a natural level of food or substance. If you do not maintain the cause & just treat the patient & if he finds that he can be treated then he will start again at later date & can be supressed to become chronic drinker.

I understand that we may have to take so many unnatural foods for the survival of over-population-which may be causing disorders but I can't say that the treatment given to these types of disorders is a CURE or SUPPRESSION.

Thanks.

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Since, potentized homeopathic remedies do not have anything physical in it of crude stbstances-it can not supplement/replace or provide any food for real deficiency. As discussiod in another topic, we may be having the following conditions of hunger or craving of any food:-

1. Hunger or craving of any food due to real need of any deficient food.

2. Hunger or craving of any food for compensating & competiting any physiological natural imbalance e.g. Acid/base imbalance( pls read at;

http://www.harmonikireland.com/index.php?topic=acid

http://www.bluegrass.net/~jclark/alkaline_foods.htm

3. Hunger or craving of any food due to any physiological disorder.

In case one: we may have only to provide similar food which is really deficient in body & treatment by any remedy is not necessary.

In case two: we may have to provide any compensating or competiting food to balance the imbalance(by fasting or discontinuing of particular food may also cure?) e.g. to provide acid forming food if system is more alkaline & vice versa. But excess alkalinity in body can also be corrected by any remedy.

In case three:Diet control plus remedy ( or may be just by fasting OR only with diet control/change OR only by remedy?) will be necessary.

Remedies in case two & three can also control the imbalance or disorder, but if it could have been possible to cure by diet control or diet change then treating by remedies can create suppressive effects.

If I am not wrong, the basic & real role of any potentized homeopathic remedy is ' to remove any suppression/accumulation in body system & should not cause any futhur suppression/accumulation '

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Trouble is, with this definition, absolutely everything falls into this category, including what you think is "unnatural".

Potato chips, cheesies, coca cola, hot dogs, wonderbread, etc. etc. etc. all fall into the category you describe above. All are "natural" in the sense that they do start off as a collection of substances found here on earth.

My point is: a healthy body, given nothing else but foods such as these for nourishment, will derive nourishment from them as needed. It is not ideal, but these "foods" will in fact sustain life, power regenerative processes in the body, and provide energy for all its functions.

So, once again, I would argue: the idea of what is "natural" and "good" is all subjective, it varies all the time because "science" can't seem to agree on these issues one way or the other, and in the end is quite relative to the case.

You see, I happen to know that a starving body can very well thrive on crappy food, if it has to: as long as its healthy, it will take everything it needs, even if the only food around is candy.

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ARen't we just flogging that dead horse over and over again with this thread? I've seen it at least twice now. Surely this can't be the only nutrition question you can think of, can it?

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Hello Divina,

Some points were created & not cleared in other thread and so need to be cleared i.e. treatment/craving on taking unnatural foods.
Suppression may not be so important with 'science' but homeopathy do care for it.

Frankly, most of the foods can also come under my definition of 'UNNATURAL FOODS'. If food is unnatural(as per my definition above),its intake is to be reduced/restricted to its non-toxic or non-harmful levels( at the time of taking or in few days)- but still will produce some adverse/toxic effect on body.

Therefore, any treatment by remedies on taking such 'Unnatural Foods' can cause suppressive effect instead of OR alongwith CURE(as we anticipate), but it can be just a treatment.

[ 08. April 2004, 16:31: Message edited by: kayveeh ]

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incorrect thinking.Must strengthen your homoeopathic understanding before venturing into these type of conjectures.

The fundamental Law of Nature Cure: "Every acute disease is the result of a cleansing and healing effort of Nature." If this law is being contradicted- will it not cause a suppression?

I just mean to say, it can be a suppression if we contradict the law of nature cure.

william d. pedrek,

Can you bit explain homeopathic definition & understanding of CURE & SUPPRESSION?

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Ok, no comments. Now other part of this topic:-

On any disease or disorder, we may be getting some form of accumulations or suppression in the system or on the body cells. If it is so than:

Whether ' CURE ' means in homeopathy is to remove/clear all of these suppression or accumulations caused by any disease or disorder, or not? If these are deep seated or chronic in nature, which type of potencies( higher or lower) will be more suitable for removing these suppressions or accumulations?

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