Dr leela,

The sadness was more of a preoccupied here but not here look. yet not spacy. But not distracted. I label it as casual indifference. Though she was a very very active person, ' I mean vigorous stacking firewood ' active. In fact she said, "every time I work with wood I get this blistery crack on my lower lip".

Yes sepia 30c was given.

What do think now?

Thank you again.

John

John, this is going to be a bit of a stretch.
SInce I mentioned Puls, that remedy can also be very active and fastidious about keeping things in place, clearing up the house, etc. You'll see them always bustling around getting the house arranged and cleaned.
That is very different from the Sepia modality of exertion ammeliorates. eg Asthma better by dancing. SO if you want to describe something as "casual indifference" you'll have to find out WHY it is so, why is she preoccupied, what is she thinking and feeling. Otherwise its a superficial observation and one cannot base a prescription on it.


Kayveeh -
NO idea, really.
PRobably its the capacity of that particular consitution to produce these symptoms under stress or stimulus - here it is the partially similar remedy.
So these individual responses are also part of the totality to indicate the remedy to be prescribed.

regards,
doctorleela

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Dr leela,

I see, clarification again. this reinforces the need for better case taking on my part.Partial case taking has potential ability to muddle .I understand the 'new' symptomology being used along with the old to guide to new prescription; this I will have to observe and practise to know for sure.

My plan of action = wait observe and see what comes.

I am hesitant to give Puls at this time; but if relapse , then I will take case a-new with this insight.

If any other thought , then please be free to write.

Thank you again .

John

doctorleela,

Can we apply some physiology rule, homeostatis here?

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Can you explain a stye and a swollen lip with "homeostasis"?

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Kv, Homoeopathic remedies are "disease" energies that when applied according to homoeopathic principles are curative in their similar action. When a remedy is taken according to these principles it has an effect on the Vital Force, moving it in a particular direction. The effect may be slight or profound and it is our job to closely observe and evaluate these effects. Alongside this, usually, is Psora, which due to its miasmatic nature, has the tendency to become activated and manifest secondary symptoms which have previously been suppressed within the constitution.
If the "accessary" symptoms are produced by the primary action of the remedy in a sufficiently small dose, you only need to wait a while after dosing and they will stop of their own accord.
If the "accessary" symptoms continue then this indicates either that the previous dose was way too strong, or, that they're true symptoms of the (probably psoric) disease that the remedy has brought out in the patient, and they are subsequently incorporated in the next prescription.
This is an important distinction to make in case management procedures.
If the homoeopath rushes in too soon with another remedy, or overrepetition of the same one, the case will become muddled and possibly even made incurable because one ends up trying to prescribe on a maze of idiopathic "accessary" symptoms instead of true disease symptoms.
In chronic cases there needs to be sufficient time given so that the action of the Vital Force can be observed, the miasmatic indications recognized, so that any new manifestations can be evaluated accordingly.
It is not OK to ply a chronic patient full of any number of homoeopathic medicines hoping the right one will score a hit. In my experience, chronic patients who have been treated in the past in this fashion are difficult cases to manage. They tend, on the whole, to overreact to even the most gentle dosing strategies.
The study of chronic disease, and its treatment by homoeopathic means, requires that we study not only the Organon, but also Hahnemann's 'Chronic Diseases', and also review his own case studies and delve into the huge bank of case material that has been handed down to us over the last 200 years from many brilliant and successful homoeopaths.
One simply can't expect to critique the Organon alone - as is being attempted by our learned blowhard skeptics on other threads - without studying the whole field and putting it into clinical practice ourselves. Anything short of this depth of study readily lends itself to the adoption of dubious and combination-type applications of homoeopathic medicines - and all the usual rationalizations with which I'm sure you're familiar...

Ah Chris, the psoric miasm expression - thanks for bringing it to mind.

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doctor leela, chrisg,

I think, other subjects like physiology, anatomy etc. are also a part of current academic recognized teachings. I ,sometimes, feel that if homeopathic is just an expanded vergin of physiology in words. May be due to the involvement of allopathic studies in those brilliant and successful homoeopaths of over 200 years.

'Physiological Homeostasis' is a condition in which various biochemicals tends to move towards an equiblirium of them in body by the action or reaction of their competiting & compensating(C&C) biochemicals. Sodium & Potassium are good examples of C&C biochemicals. When Sodium is elevated in blood, Potassium tends to be lower giving homeopathic symptoms of high Sodium & low Potassium. When a HR say Nat.Mur. is applied, Sodium gets assimilated curing its symptoms. But them Potassium level can be increased which may produce differant symptoms other than the proving's symptoms of Nat.Mur. and so on to maintain'Physiological Homeostasis' Being the balanced state i.e. 'Health'.

Hope this may help.

[ 18. October 2003, 10:13: Message edited by: kayveeh ]

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Doctorleela said:

I didn't say anything about Vithoulkas in particular; I referred to the Vithoulkas school of thought.

Moreover, I like George, but the fact remains that he initiated this so-called NeoRenaissance of supposed "classical" homeopathy without any demonstration of any Hahnemannian precepts being advocated or applied by any of them for over 20 years now, so who's to blaim except the instigators and adherents of those errors, the GVs?

I now stipulate, although done before here, that they exhibit the two mistakes of high-potency pseudo-homeopaths (HPHs) identified by Hahnemann on pp. 121-22 of THE CHRONIC DISEASES (http://homeoint.org/books/hahchrdi/hahchr12.htm#P120):

They 1) fail to identify the characteristic/uncommon symptoms because they don't know what that means, and they 2) prescribe from the repertory.

Thus, Hahnemann dismissed the Vithoulkas school of thought as "beginners," "bunglers" and "aggravators of disease."

What a revelation! (facetious)

This has been known from the beginning, only nobody would listen to us, and few do now, which is also typical for Hahnemannian homeopathy since it's quite a bit more difficult to do it correctly than via the crude and psychobabblic inroads from allopathic medicine seen in the so-called "remedy essences" (etc.) from the Vithoulkas school of thought who're now rampant in Usa, India, England and Europe.

All it takes for them to not be denounced by the founder and subsequent Hahnemannians is to cease making those mistakes.

Actually, there are six other mistakes made by HPHs that were also previously listed here and therefore will not be repeated, especially since those two cover most of their errors.

They do not hide these mistakes either, do they?

Go into any of their journals and they show them for the whole world to see.

The problem is that nobody but Hahnemannians recognize them, right?

"Why haven't any of them read their primary literature" is a recurrent question asked from the Hahnemannian side.

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As to "other approaches," you obviously admit you're not a classical/Hahnemannian homeopath, so it's wondered why you people continue to insist you are while constantly demonstrating you aren't.

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I didn't say anything about prescribing on one symptom, so I will not respond on that.

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Hit-or-miss prescribing refers to those where there is no demonstration of unambiguous homeopathicity but the drugs are given anyway.

That also constantly occurs in their case literature within the journals, and we find them giving endless explanations for understandably consequent failed reactions, for they did not have justifiable reasons for giving them in the first place, did they?

One furthermore sees these same errors from the HPH Kentians, don't we?

Thank God Hahnemannian homeopathy was preserved by a few German and Swiss homeopaths during the dark period when it disappeared from Usa and the rest of the world, right?

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ALbert, you have gone over this again and again ad nauseam!
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- No one can make external judgements on people based on incomplete or biased ideas of what Homeopathy should or should not be, according to their own individual interpretations.

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