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Old 6th October 2003, 02:06 AM
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-boy can't eat without feeling bad.
-never gets energy from food.
-gets tired, agro, spacy, unable to focus or think.
-almost always gets thirsty, hot, dry and sour taste in mouth.
-seems to be able to eat things at night that can not be eaten in morning.
-always wakes feeling horrible.
-wakes with sour tongue, head ache, kidneys hurt, weak, hung over. he can feel fine before going to sleep, but wakes feeling as above. even if he only falls asleep for 1 minute.
-sickness lasts in morning for 5-6 hours. if he eats during this time, it gets worse.
-if eats when really hungry, doesn't get symptoms as bad.
-been going on for years.
-he tends to be depressed, angy, bored, no motivation, lots of anxiety.
-appears to others as mellow and calm.
-he is extremely apathetic. no care. whatever.
-no plans, no focus, no goals.
-people like him. he is funny. can be both shy and outgoing. sometimes the life of the party.
-extreme sex drive.

any ideas to what the treatment would be?

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Old 6th October 2003, 09:33 AM
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One day two person entered in my clinic. One was the father and other was his son. The father said "I am an army officer. I want to get treatment for my son. He is my son but he does not listen my order. He disobey my orders."

I listened the views of both parties and gave a dose of Platina 1m to the father. Now his son does not obey his father's order.

The same is the case here. That person does not need any treatment rather you take a dose of Ignatia 200. It is enough.
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There is a lot of fundamental information missing from this case. What delusions, fears, dreams were there? What did he like to eat/drink? What were the big events in his life? Does he have many fears? What's his sleep pattern/position, etc

Anyway, based on the case presented, there is an issue over eating. I would specifically like to ask the boy about this. Describe the feeling you get when you eat? What sensations do you get when you eat? Go into detail here. I feel it is central to understanding the case. How long have you felt this way about food. Can you remember when you first felt this feeling? Why do you think you are getting this feeling? When did this start? Is there an event which may have triggered this behaviour?

From what's presented, a lot of the case is not unusual given he has eating problems.

The other areas that stand out to me are:
< morning
< sleep
- taste in mouth
- apathetic/no cares/listless attitude
- extreme sex drive, but how do we know this to be true?

There is no mention of family history and relationships with mum/dad or siblings. These relationships in the past may prove to have a big bearing on the case.

There is many options to speculate about here but
I don't believe there is enough information here for me to confidently treat this case.
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PRIVATE CASE

Doctor Inam saheb aur Arshad saheb,

ye saheb puchh to sach rahe hai per mujhe apna sir phodne ka dil kar raha hai. Mere liye kon si remedi kaam karegi. Mai koi aur symptom nahi batauga/ bata sakta. Kirpya batane ka kast kare. Mai apni bhasha me likh raha huu kiyoki private case hai. Eese mind mat karna.

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Old 9th October 2003, 12:52 AM
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delusions: not aware of any

fears: not being liked, fear of boredom, fear of
losing girlfriend, fear of having no money, fear of being alone.

dreams: many drugged dreams. Seemed stoned, eyes fluttering, couldn't see, blind, lost, couldn't communicate with others in dreams. Lots of fear and anxiety in dreams. Usually, though, can't remember dreams.

Sleep pattern: gets very tired easily. can sleep anywhere, any time. When he has something to do, he can stay awake. if there is a computer or TV, he can stay awake. If listening to someone talking to him, gets antsy and bored (especially girlfriend). Can fall asleep any time and sleep through the night. If eats before bed, wakes in middle of night very hot, feverish and sour taste in mouth. Kidneys hurting. Wakes hungover, miserable and usually overcome with sex pleasure desire. He sleeps on his side and stomach mostly and sometimes back, but more uncomfortable.

Feeling got when eating: Love to eat but repulsed at the same time. always afraid of getting sick. Usually feel fine immediatly after eating but a little sleep. Sickness comes on later ... except morning, the thirst gets more intense, the dryness and achiness, too. Always ate out of boredom and would have to hide from dad's wife because she wanted to control his eating. Always ate in front of Telivision. He tends to eat throughout the day and likes sweets. Rich food too.

When food problem began: over five years ago. Bloating was first symptom. No appetite for hours, would eat anyway, would suffer from not digesting and it got worse and worse from there.

Why think getting this feeling? Doesn't know really. Started two years after huge break up. Drug time, stayed up all hours, partied, no interest in school, dropped out, went hippy, went hiking, went nowhere.

What triggered this behavior: Girlfriend and maybe Ma leaving when young?

relationship with family: sisters too old and went nuts when they were teens. Drugs, sex, kids ... turned into red necks. When lived with them, they were angry and yelling at him and family all the time. Mom left early and Dad raised kids. Dad traveled. Lots of babysitters. Then evil stepmother that grounded him all the time and always thought he was lying and doing something wrong. Dad divorced her when sick boy was 17. After this, he went to 4 colleges in 2 years and finally dropped out to be a hippy.
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Got the new information today.
Will analyse and post as soon as I can, today or tomorrow morning.
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This polarity I see in this case is summed up in the statement 'loves to eat but is repulsed at the same time'

i.e. strong desire to make the connection (to love, to eat) but to break the connection as well (repulsed).

The rubrics I noted were:
Mind - ailments from love, disappointed.
Mind - ailments - rejected; from being
Mind - taste - sour
Kidneys - pain
Mind - indifference
Mind - Fear - Poverty
Mind - fear - alone, of being
Sleep - falling asleep, easy.

Basically, there was no structure, nurturing and love at home. (I can't help feel for this person) and this is all about a need to be loved.

The remedy which repertorises best is
Nat-m
which is very understandable. It has affinity with the kidneys, and has this making/breaking relationships issue.

However, the remedy to give him is saccharum (sacch), which is sugar.

This is because:
There is a lack of nurturing from day one. Ailments from disappointment, lack of affection.

There is a desire for sweetness. All of the above can lead to eating disorders which is key here and in this remedy.

The lack of function is compensated by finger/thumb sucking, desiring affection or the polarity, won't touch anybody or 'repulses' affection.

This ties back to the key feeling he has with food.
love to have it, but feels repulsed.

Too much sugar leads to irritabilty, crossness, insolence, moaning, morose, restlessness.
> physical exercise outside.

I would give 3 * 30C of sacc. 1 at night, 1 morning, 1 night and monitor for a month.

I would expect the whole pattern of his life to come more into balance. This strong polarity at the centre of the case (love/repulse) should come more into balance. Relationship with girlfriend should improve, sleep patterns should revert to more normal pattern, eating symptoms should show a marked improvement.
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I note an error in my last post. I mean 3 * 30C of sacch (not sacc).
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I would be looking for a drug remedy and in this particular case Opium
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