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Calendula 1x ointment application for your next bad scrape

Arnica 30C 3 pellets under tongue 3x day for 3 days for the next bad bruise

Staphysagria 30C 3 pellets, single dose, for your next paper cut; calendula can be used topically

Hypericum 30C for shooting nerve pain after the next crush injury to your fingers or toes, 3 pellets repeated as often as shooting pain returns. (If the pain is primarily due to bruising, then arnica instead.)
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More definations:-

HEALTH : is a state of the body when all the cells composing the various tissues are in a normal condition, and they are kept in this state when they each recieve the requisite quantity of needfull cell salt required for the upbuilding of the differant tissues.
DICTIONARY : the condition of being sound in body, mind, or spirit; especially : freedom from physical disease or pain,flourishing condition : WELL-BEING .

DISEASE : is an altered state of the cell produced by some irregularity in the supply to the cells of one of the inorganic tissue salts.
DICT. : TROUBLE :a condition of the livings that impairs normal functioning : SICKNESS, MALADY : a harmful development

Broadly speaking Homeopathy is is a pathy of, same: similar: like WHEREAS Allopathy is a pathy of, other : different : atypical :isomeric form.

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Lisa's post is most eloquent. I especially appreciate the emphasis on acquainting yourself with the concepts you need to know firmly in order to even discuss homeopathy intelligently.

Also have to stress: allopathy's goal is NOT to remove all symptoms!! It is, in fact, to SUPPRESS all symptoms. It works, metaphorically, just like the carnival game in which you have to use a mallet to knock down the gophers as they pop up in front of you!

BIG, big difference between suppression and "removal", though you can, temporarily, remove some symptoms by suppressing them.

One last point: homeopathy doesn't strengthen the Immune System in order to effect cure. Homeopathy strengthen's the individual vital force (a very different thing from the theoretical concept we call 'an immune system') to restore full health.

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ChaChaHeels ,

One small question. If you will remove every suppression then how resistance to current environment will exist? I think resistance is also a suppression.
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I was meaning he should go and see a Homeopath not necessarily self prescribe.
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Hi ChaCha,
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One last point: homeopathy doesn't strengthen the Immune System in order to effect cure. Homeopathy strengthen's the individual vital force (a very different thing from the theoretical concept we call 'an immune system') to restore full health.
Yeh, I know, but like I said above, I was keeping it simple. I didn't want to get into a debate (tangent) over whether the Vital Force was real or not (which someone else told me really should read Vital Strength from the translation...maybe those with German can say for sure). I figured we could get to that later, if it came up...

And really, my MAIN point was that Hans MUST understand the concepts involved, if he is to critique homeopathy factually, fairly and intelligently.

It's a lot to process for such a huge task! If Hans does persevere - he'll either quit half way there, thinking he has enough to do a critique. Or, he'll go the distance and end up like everyone else who set out to critique homeopathy .
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Hi Hoppitt,

Oh :razz: .

If he does...let's hope he finds a good one!

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Kayveeh,

You know the answer to that question yourself. If you don't, Hahnemann liberally illustrates the difference in the Organon. Help yourself to it.

Lisa, I know you understand the whole idea of vitalism as the basis for the medical paradigm on which homeopathy is based; but it bothers me more and more that so many people are making a living spreading inaccuracies about homeopathy.

Currently, Chiropractors who practice combo remedy treatments hand out pamphlets about how homeopathy directly stimulates the Immune System (some even rant on about stimulating the central nervous system!) to effect cure. This is all just wrong. Worse, it dismisses the whole vitalism paradigm and tries to base homeopathy in the "materialist" one. Ironic, since no one has ever seen an Immune system, ever--and the concept will be likely deemed "quaint and antique" within a few decades when "conventional science" figures out that no singular system exists in the body.

So, its a point we need to be really, really clear about. We need to encourage people to envision that vitalist paradigm and not cajole them by trying to get them to accept homeopathy without it.

Hahnemann brilliantly illustrated the difference between the existance of a vital force and the lack of one: without one, all you have is a dead body.

That's a pretty clear illustration of the concept of "vital force" or "vital strength" to me. One I think everyone can easily grasp.

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chachaheals,
I don't think it is mentioned in Organon in the way I am suspecting, otherwise history of homeopathy would have been been something differant. Please give one or two mentionings just for the referance.
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I see where you're coming from ChaCha. It wasn't my intention to pass off the vital force as the immune system, but some people who are making the shift in thinking, can at least equate to something in their knowledge bank to make sense out of it. That's why I mentioned vital force and then mentioned 'lay term' when saying immune system. But, you are quite right - there is a big difference! I'm glad you posted about it.
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